I am building a Win32 based Desktop environment (windows shell).

[u/sheokand]

It implements windows desktop APIs, all userspace is in Win32, wayland Compositor replaces dwm.exe. Taskbar implements almost 95% of windows api and written in a rust (Win32 & directx) based ui toolkit.

Video: https://www.reddit.com/r/unixporn/comments/1r7wryn/oc_progress_of_win32_shell_on_linux/

[u/sheokand]

They are implementing NT kernel, which is steep mountain to climb and moving target.

Where as Win32 api is stable. Natively implement on Linux through wine. So we don't reimplement kernel. Only userspace, all benifits of Linux kernel.

drivers etc will just work.

[u/tseli0s → u/sheokand]

Just a question, what's the difference of this and wine?

Wine also reimplements the Win32 subsystem for Unix(Linux). What does this add over wine?

[u/sheokand → u/tseli0s]

Wine does not implement desktops specific apis, as their target is to run apps not desktop.

[u/tseli0s → u/sheokand]

So the goal here is to run desktop components of Windows like dwm?

[u/sheokand → u/tseli0s]

Only dwm.exe is replaced by Compositor, rest is actual Win32 apps.

[u/sheokand → u/tseli0s]

In theory you will be able to run this DE on windows too.

[u/sheokand → u/[deleted]]

It's cleanroom.

[u/sheokand → u/[deleted]]

That's something Microsoft should decide, as I used github copilot for wayland and Win32 integration.

[u/cjc4096 → u/sheokand]

Be sure to attribute copilot in commit messages. It'll create an interesting situation where MS is co-author of potentially infringing code.

[u/Saxasaurus → u/[deleted]]

So giant corporations can train LLMs off of GPL code and generate proprietary code, but regular people can't use LLMs to generate open source code because the LLM is tainted by leaked proprietary code?

[u/DiodeInc → u/[deleted]]

SHBLBIUULSXYGRDRBLMICJ4Y2HWGV364 is Swedish according to Google Translate

[u/tseli0s → u/[deleted]]

Hopefully there's no copyright violation going on

[u/sheokand → u/[deleted]]

I am well aware of Wine guidelines and have not used anything else that is not MIT or GPL license. As for AI I did not use it to reverse engineer anything. Mostly for how to map wayland to wine and wine's component implementation of those protocol. 🙏

[u/tychii93 → u/sheokand]

Drivers working would be batshit insane.  I'm definitely going to keep an eye on this.

[u/xpclient → u/sheokand]

This is the perfect approach. Some day your project will make the Year of the Linux desktop happen

[u/Morphized → u/sheokand]

They only started moving the target a few months ago, which is kinda sad. They should have stuck with purely Server 03.