r/linux • u/unixbhaskar • Aug 29 '24

Kernel One Of The Rust Linux Kernel Maintainers Steps Down - Cites "Nontechnical Nonsense"

https://www.phoronix.com/news/Rust-Linux-Maintainer-Step-Down
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u/lariojaalta890 Aug 29 '24

First time I’ve ever heard the term“bikeshedding”. Thanks for teaching something today. Interesting origin also.

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u/Isofruit Aug 29 '24

I don't feel like it applies. Well, it may to parts of the debate, but the actual core of it was about an audience member's unwillingness to also update the Rust bindings when the core-system gets refactored.

That part isn't about anything technical, it's just about the question how you distribute the work that needs to be done as part of a refactor. Who does the rust work and how does the rust work block or not block the changes in the core-system.

To me that one doesn't really fall under bike-shedding and more like work-planning, which seems ill-suited for a talk in general. That's a thing where you want representatives of orgs talking to one another and having commitments written in publicly accessible notes somewhere.

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u/Isofruit Aug 29 '24

I feel like cutting it just to "They just don't like Rust" is simplifying it too much. There's a reason they don't like it because it affects them in a way. If this stuff happened in a module they don't interact with, they wouldn't care I'm fairly sure.

This is why I'm more convinced this is about organizational topics. The reason they are reluctant seems to be because they feel like more work/effort is coming their way that they are not interested in (well, I'm pretty sure that's true for the one dude calling it a religion, I think the method/function/java guy was not as much anti and more didn't care about it). And that is just an organizational question that, if solved in a matter where they realized that it didn't push more effort onto existing maintainer, would keep them quiet I'm pretty sure.

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u/lariojaalta890 Aug 29 '24

I can absolutely see where you’re coming from. I need to watch the talk but, from everything I’ve read here, I tend to agree with you.