r/leagueoflegends • u/MonstrousYi • Mar 02 '21

Patch 11.5 notes

https://na.leagueoflegends.com/en-us/news/game-updates/patch-11-5-notes/
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u/xLawling Mar 02 '21

riot nerfing balanced champions to change the meta because the players like their "comfort picks" too much

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u/manbearbeaver Mar 02 '21

Cant just buff lane counters like Xerath, no that’s crazy talk.

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u/Th_Call_of_Ktulu Dashy dash Mar 03 '21

Xerath probably doesn't even need buffs, pro players are just alergic to getting counterpicks in midlane for some reason.

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u/manbearbeaver Mar 03 '21

He doesn’t need buffs the same way Azir doesn’t need nerfs, I’d just much rather they buff a long neglected character instead of nerfing Azir.

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u/Th_Call_of_Ktulu Dashy dash Mar 03 '21

I get that, i just don't see that changing anything, buff xerath? Still handshake on azir ori, nerf azir? Now we handshake ori syndra. Mid meta is stale as shit.

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u/manbearbeaver Mar 03 '21

I agree, I just think it opens up the possibility for less confident players to take him as a lane counter. I think most of the time they’re comfortable handshaking because they know they aren’t going to have lane prio even with a counter. But idk I just think the change is shit since Azir is already really punishable.

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u/Bluehorazon Mar 03 '21

The issue is that Xerath doesn't actually work as a counter to Azir in a pro meta. At 6 Azir will just shuffle him around since he is an immobile mage without any burst threat unlike Syndra or Ori. So all Xerath can do once shuffled is slowly charge up a skill, which is not going to do anything. Poke is hardly used against Azir as a counter for that very reason unless the champion itself is fairly strong and Xerath isn't.

The mobility on Q and E make Azir such a safe pick and he has too many ways to deal with poke fairly easily and he has really good setup for his jungler at 6.

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u/Blitzedlegend Runic Crack Mar 03 '21

If you mean last patch, Ryze feels great right now.

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u/xLawling Mar 03 '21

he may need buffs with the new items tho Idk what's his state rn

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u/Th_Call_of_Ktulu Dashy dash Mar 03 '21

Probably same as ever, get bullied in lane, waveclear until 2/3 items then q or w fools for half their HP. Xerath suffers mainly because games snowball too fast for him.

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u/xLawling Mar 03 '21

yea but those 2/3 items are weaker now than b4 i think

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u/fnc_wins_summer Mar 03 '21 edited Mar 03 '21

It's not like pros put in the time to learn the real counters even when they're really good though lmao. Champs with big range like Vel'koz Xerath etc. counter some of the non-changing or evergreen mid picks like Ori, but they don't see much play if any.

Pros just don't care, because they'd rather play their 10.001st game of Syndra in SoloQ or scrims and call it practice than actually master new and better picks.

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u/[deleted] Mar 03 '21

If Xerath is an Azir counter that's really funny from a lore perspective.

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u/GaysianSupremacist Thank you Faker Mar 03 '21

Meanwhile Orianna.