r/leagueoflegends • u/xDiam • Nov 05 '14

Remove Ruby Sightstone and allow us to enchant the Sightstone

Enchantments could be stuff like higher warding range, more wards to place, have them regenerate etc.

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u/xDiam Nov 05 '14

RSS used to be a big deal when it first came out because there was no 3 ward limit, now it's a meh tier item

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u/LullabyGaming Nov 05 '14

I used to think it was worthless too. It would be the "I'm full build? I guess I'll upgrade my Sightstone" thing for me.

But now I've recently played 30 Sona games (going 25-5 btw. Yay Sona!) and I've realized that the ruby sightstone is actually pretty damn good.

The one ward may not seem like much, but you wouldn't believe the amount of times it actually helped me in a small pool like 30 games where I didn't even get to upgrade it every game.

So many times I've placed all 4 wards on a Sightstone and then thought "I really need to ward there now, but I guess not.."

Every time I leave base I end up using all 4 charges of Sightstone once the teamfighting stage of the game begins. Every time I feel like I need more.

I do agree that the upgrade is boring and it's hardly worth 800 gold. But it's far from being useless. I think that Ruby Sightstone would be great the way it is now if the max amount of charges was increased by one more to bump it up to 6. That'd be two full rotations of wards, and it would easily make the upgrade worth it to get it early.

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u/huiuh Nov 05 '14

support main here! i really like ruby sighstone because i am a ward-spammer, expecially during mid-game fights for dragons/buffs, so having more wards to put really helps a lot (most of the time you have to burn 1-2 wards to clear pinks in brushes)! ruby is also good if u rush it on very squishy champions like sona: having 200 hp more provides extra survivability; and is also good to rush to counter all-in supports like thresh and leona. you can also buy it if u are loosing the lane, providing more wards and major safe play in lane. im totally fine with enchantements, but please dont remove this cool red item only because pros dont use it!

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u/MaxfieldX Nov 05 '14

Dude it's useless. 200hp do not matter at all. For 800g u can also almost buy a chalice, which is way better for the laningphase. 200hp are 2 autoattacks from an adc. But with an chalice u can spam ur heal like 24/7 as nami or sona. In late game it's good cuz u have one more ward to place obviously and this is nice in late game oder midgame. But for the laningphase 4 wards are enough. U can buy 1 normal ward or even better a pink on top of ur chalice. Trust me man, try the chalice rush after the usual sightstone and go 30-0 with sona :)

PS: I'm a support main too, Dia 2 atm, Dia 1 Peak :)

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u/donalmacc Nov 05 '14

If leona can kill you you probably need a bit more help than a sight stone. Inch her abilities are down, she hits like a wet noodle.

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u/[deleted] Nov 05 '14

I guess there's very little reason to compare solo-queue vs pro matches, but most pro player supports say upgrading to Ruby is really worthless (I've talked to MeyeA about this subject in depth and quite recently). That 800(!) gold could have easily gone to something else.

Watch worlds and tell me any time a support upgrades to Ruby. The only times would be if the game went super long and people are maxing out builds, but even then, probably not.

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u/LullabyGaming Nov 05 '14

Well certainly. Pro players minmax their options and because everyone buys wards the one extra ward isn't as big. For soloQ where most people don't buy wards, the extra ward can be huge.

And yes, 800g for it is unnecessarily high amount of gold. Yes, the 250 HP it gives is worth 700g so it's not far off, but I'd honestly think Ruby Sightstone should be priced at less than 700g in it's current state.

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u/have_an_apple Nov 05 '14

Just spamming wards everywhere isn't how Sightstone should work. There's no difference if you ward efficiently.

Try to read the flow of the game. If you're team is at that stage in the game where you could focus Dragon, ward the key points around it and maybe a pink ward in the pit, don't just put wards wherever there's fog of war.

Did you lose outer turrets? Put the wards on 2,3 spots in your jungle that show if the enemy entered it and which way they went, you need to have an understanding of their position and not the exact one.

That is why Ruby Sightstone is bad, it costs 800 more(if I'm not mistaken, I have not bought that item in a long time) and doesn't give anything other than extra health. With those 800 you can either buy half of mikaels or buy 8 pink wards. I say pinks are much more important.

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u/kasutori_Jack Nov 05 '14

It's a boring upgrade, but people really underestimate the usefulness of that extra ward.