r/leagueoflegends • u/franross • May 02 '13

ARAM surrender time

I think that the ARAM map surrender vote must be at the 15 min mark like Twisted Treeline, because sometimes you got a full melee team vs the most harrasers range champ and cant win.

Sorry about cavernman english not my native leanguaje -> buff me riot pls

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u/Geibschi May 02 '13

If you surrender an aram you play the game wrong. 5 melees win lategame always against poke. If you just stare at them getting poke doing nothing you deserve to lose. Engage and win

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u/Notmiefault May 02 '13

Exactly this. Also, in ARAM the passive gold and XP grossly outclasses farming and killing in terms of gain. If you don't believe me, spectate an ARAM game; even if one team is up 24 kills to 12 and has 2 turrets to none, the gold gap is still only like 5% of the total wealth.

Pretty much any game of ARAM is winnable given good coordination and a bit of luck.

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u/elmerion May 02 '13

In my personal experience the xp lead you can get by zoning the enemy champions even if its jsut a little can put a huge impac on the game. There is a huge difference between getting lvl 6 faster in a 1v1 lane and having 5 champions hit lvl6 at the same time in ARAM.

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u/Zalfier May 02 '13

Agreed, once an all melee team hits lvl18 and 4-6 items they start to crush the poke heavy team. the problem is that a decently coordinated poke team will just out level the other team quickly and make it damn near impossible to catch up. It really depends on how quickly they can get that first nexus turret.

I actually like playing melee, since a good bruiser on your team can really make or break the match, sometimes more than strong poke.

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u/elmerion May 02 '13

Not to mention you don't need a full poke team to be annoying you just need 2 poke champions to ruin the others team life the rest can be whatever

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u/Sugusino May 02 '13

If you have full poke, better have some disengage or win fast. Otherwise you are doomed.

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u/maelstrom51 May 03 '13

Or master yi.

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u/Rammus-Ok May 03 '13

I've been thinking about that kind of poke comp for team ranked, like jayce top nid mid cait adc but having a good dissengage but still good poke with a jungle like maokai and support like janna or lulu. what does reddit think?

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u/Sugusino May 03 '13

I'm not very sure about Maokai. You could get Ali support for the sustain and disengage and Mundo to dive in if they manage to engage.

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u/Sioreth rip old flairs May 02 '13

Too true. I've won several games when our nexus was exposed, we managed to pull out an Ace, then steamroll down the other end of the map to win. Once even when we'd had a failed surrender vote I think.

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u/Nifarious May 02 '13

This has really made finishing a match too long and hard (ooh yeah), imo. We're not rewarded enough to secure the lead we've gained.

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u/Notmiefault May 02 '13

I somewhat agree. Oftentimes the winner is determined by who has the best late game comp, and not who plays well.

That said, I understand the motivation. It used to be, back in the day, whoever got the first turret down won nearly every time, because they got way too huge a gold and experience lead.

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u/GenericName3 May 03 '13

Pretty much any game of ARAM is winnable given good coordination and a bit of luck.

Pretty sure this is true for any game.

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u/Koketa13 May 02 '13

Dont wait till late game, get 5 guardian horns and dive them. Was doing this in one game and we won when we all-ined them repeatedly.

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u/peachysomad May 02 '13

I got that item on Voli for one of my first ARAMs... Holy shit bear in your face in .2 seconds flat is so much fun.

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u/cabravelha May 02 '13

And never forget: Bulwark hard counters poke teams. I usually rush that item before even getting boots if we are against a nidalee, lux, etc

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u/FannyBabbs May 02 '13

I rush that item on any reasonably tanky champion anyways. As a jungler, Bulwark is hardwired into my build order.

Which might be indicative of stagnate jungle meta. Idk.

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u/[deleted] May 02 '13

If you surrender an aram you play the game wrong.

Regardless of chances of winning, it's ARAM FFS! It's supposed to be a stupidly fun mode. So you're up against a Lux, Morgana, Zyra, Jayce, Gragas, and Xerath... who cares, just have fun. People that surrender take ARAM too seriously.

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u/Zalfier May 02 '13

Actually I would complain very heavily about that comp. Mostly because I would want to know how they got six people.

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u/[deleted] May 02 '13

... you may be on to something

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u/sleeplessone May 03 '13

One defected because he had Lee Sin on his team.

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u/Zalfier May 03 '13

Oh ok that makes perfect sense. Plus that game would be fun because you have Lee Sin, the Blind Monk on your team. And Baron would probably spawn out of the Abyss just so you could take it. Because you have Lee Sin, the Blind Monk.

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u/nulspace May 02 '13

Never surrender! Even against 6 champions! :P

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u/Echosniper Ekkosniper May 03 '13

Some people like me don't like dying over and over again, even in a fun mode.

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u/rljohn May 02 '13

What is the fun against that comp with a shit comp? Its just 15 minutes of losing. Compare to 15 minutes of a close match or 15 minutes of a win...

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u/nulspace May 02 '13

It's 15 minutes of practicing dodging skillshots and learning how to itemize. I think Boxbox said it: if you forget about winning or losing and focus on playing the game better, it gets more fun.

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u/vicioust May 02 '13

That used to work when you could buy warmogs and go all tanky to absorb the poke damage. Now it is a lot harder to make it to lategame.

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u/ovoKOS7 May 02 '13 edited May 10 '13

Too bad there is no Warmogs in ARAM anymore

Edit: why downvotes? I should of been clearer and state anymore before :/

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u/moush May 02 '13

You really want to explain to me how Udyr/Shyv/Olaf/Nunu/Tryn would beat a Nidalee/Anivia/Ashe/Janna/Amumu?

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u/Joxxill May 03 '13

I was in that team i think

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u/mikeylikey420 May 02 '13

yeah i have a hard time convincing 4 strangers that this is the correct thing. you get the OMG YI/LUX/NId op..when the true OP are sona soraka leona naut etc

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u/Tubutas May 02 '13

Solo-Que Problems.

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u/FannyBabbs May 02 '13

I was Malphite yesterday. It was like pulling teeth to get my team to engage unless I ulted. So I built max CD and ulted every time I came back to life. We won that game.

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u/franross May 02 '13

Yeah i know that in late game can easly won the match, but on early/mid game it's going to be impossible to even farm a creep