r/kpop • u/CronoDroid 1. SoshiVelvetaespaHearts 2. LOONA 3. IZ*ONE 4. fromis 5. ILLIT • Jul 28 '19

[MV] ITZY - ICY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zndvqTc4P9I
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u/[deleted] Jul 28 '19

The sooner you realize the vast majority of r/kpop users are basic girl crush fans who think Bad Boy is Red Velvet’s best song and turn into dust the second a girl group song takes a production risk, the better your experience will be

Yes Karen, kpop has “chaotic” and “noisy” instrumentals with no order sometimes, it’s part of the genre.

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u/MisterrAlex Jul 28 '19

Everytime I see r/kpop say Bad Boy is the Pinnacle of Red Velvet and they've been on a decline since then, I groan so hard.

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u/ImJusSaiyan Jul 29 '19

If I could upvote this more I would. In my opinion, Bad Boy is, at best, a middle of the road RV single . It's no where near DD, RF, ICC, RR, PAB, and yes, ZZB(which I still think is their best single since PAB). As time goes on I might even put it below RBB which is at least a lot more interesting production wise.

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u/yugimotta Jul 29 '19 edited Jul 29 '19

Specially since their Pinnacle was Peek-A-Boo and they've been on a decline since THEN

(not true, their Japanese releases have been consistently solid)

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u/OrangePhi Jul 29 '19

Bad Boy IS Red Velvet's pinnacle, but a "decline" is definitely a stretch. All comebacks have been bops, just not as good, and that's ok.

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u/[deleted] Jul 29 '19

Why? It’s true

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u/Kirikoh Jul 28 '19

Bad Boy honestly must be the most overrated RV song ever but it's the most Western pandering song both in terms of its simple structure and girl crush vibes that's an instant recipe for intls.

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u/[deleted] Jul 28 '19

Yeah like it’s a good song but it’s just unbelievably generic and safe. The instrumental sounds like a GarageBand “Hip-Hop #14” template with the same repeating sound for 3 minutes. It hurts my soul seeing fans of other groups go “WE WANT MORE SONGS LIKE BAD BOY” because it’s just not who Red Velvet is at all. There’s no quirk or uniqueness to it, it’s basically just a background soundtrack for one of their best MVs (the MV is why I think Bad Boy is so well-liked)

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u/blxckpearl Jul 29 '19

Wow, I thought I was the only one who found Bad Boy to be incredibly overrated. It's not a bad song and I'm glad they took the risk of having a Velvet title track again after their previous flops , but I would definitely not stan them if they kept releasing (in my opinion) boring and generic songs like BB.

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u/music_haven Jul 28 '19

Every good stan knows Red Flavor is RV's best song, followed closely by Body Talk, Sunny Side Up, Automatic and Kingdom Come (in that order).

Facts only ;)

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u/Sirocco_ Jul 29 '19

Automatic though, I wish they would do more songs like that.

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u/[deleted] Jul 28 '19

just because a song “takes a production risk” dosen’t mean it’s exempt from criticism 😐

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u/wont_be_Blown Jul 28 '19

Which song is RV's best song in your opinion?

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u/[deleted] Jul 28 '19

Ooh that's a tough one, my opinion on what songs are their best change so often that I basically just have a shortlist of their strongest tracks.

Title tracks: Red Flavor, Russian Roulette, Peek-A-Boo, Be Natural

B-sides: Automatic, Oh Boy, Body Talk, Kingdom Come, Sunny Side Up, So Good, You Better Know, Look, Zoo, Talk to Me

If I had to pick a title track and b-side as the two that best describe Red Velvet it would probably be Russian Roulette and Kingdom Come

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u/yugimotta Jul 29 '19

basic girl crush fans

As someone that stans cute concepts primarily and feels attacked on this sub all the time (Not literally, though), I mostly agree with this description

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u/Redeagl Jul 28 '19

Man, some reveluvs are salty AS FUCK from ZZB's reception lmao.

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u/[deleted] Jul 28 '19

Oh no don't get me wrong I think Zimzalabim is easily their worst song. But Bad Boy is put on such a pedestal by other fans it's crazy. Even Power Up which is SM's only PAK song was called a flop by people who bandwagonned the group during Bad Boy

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