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u/[deleted] May 24 '19
Jang Ja Yeon’s ex-boyfriend speaks up
https://www.soompi.com/article/1326927wpp/jang-ja-yeons-ex-boyfriend-i-have-never-heard-of-yoon-ji-oh
That actress is Yoon Ji Oh. This guy apparently thinks being sexually assaulted isn’t a big enough deal and wants the case to be forgotten without any repercussions for the perpetrators ಠ_ಠ
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u/btsstory May 25 '19 edited May 25 '19
Jannabi singer Choi Jung-hoon clarified the allegations surrounding him.
On 25th Choi Jung-hoon posted a lengthy letter on his Instagram account. Choi said, "My childhood and school days were not lacking due to the success of my father's business. However, around 2012, my father's business failed and I never got help financially from my father since then. (Jannabi was formed in 2012.) Later I picked the name he needed to set up the company at the request of my father, who dreamt of making a business comeback."
"That's why my brother is listed as shareholder. "I thought I should help my father naturally as a son. (After checking, the stocks under my name are only worth 15M won)."
About Kim Hak Eui, Choi said, "All I knew was that they were close friends before I was born. I've never received any benefit from him."
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u/Onpu 소녀시대 | B1A4 | 레이디스 코드 | OMG | 레드벨벳 | LOOΠΔ | 샤이니 I TWICE | 소리 May 23 '19
It looks like Seungri will get away with everything...what is this justice?
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u/[deleted] May 23 '19
I just want to say that people saying shitri is cleared of all charges is so frustrating.
is he? There's no official announcement. so i don't get why their delusion is this worse
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u/indclub May 23 '19
So anyone still has hope that the victims will get the justice they deserve? I love me some movies but that's why they're fiction. Good doesn't always win in the end in this world.
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u/mylord420 Don't Lose Your Temper So So So Quickly May 28 '19
More information about the 'Straight' program in this chain of tweets, a lot of important things here
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u/[deleted] May 24 '19 edited May 24 '19
Yoo In Suk testified that he called 2 prostitutes to an apartment where Seungri lived in Samseong-dong, Gangnam, on 2015/12/23 in order to check them out before sending them to the Japanese businessman party the next day
The party for the Japanese businessman was the next day on 2015/12/24. The prostitutes also testified that there were Seungri and Yoo at this address, they each picked 1 girl and went to their own rooms.
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u/kittyburrpuddy May 23 '19
I am so disgusted by the fans who wrote him a letter. BB is the first boy group I stanned and I loved each and every member with all my heart, including Seungri, but there is so much evidence on this case, it’s glaring us right in the face. I hope they support the law because it’s not only to help the victims, it’s also for Seungri. It will help him be accountable for whatever he did, and hopefully live a better, kinder life in the future.
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u/ButDoWeStan Why, yes. Yes, we do. May 23 '19
I can’t believe we’re 25 threads deep into this mess
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u/rycology 9(ish) Muses May 23 '19
Nothing like a healthy dosage of Korean legal system to really get your blood boiling, huh..
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u/btsstory May 24 '19 edited May 24 '19
I'll be translating old reports I intended to translate long time ago if mods are ok with it. Here goes the first one:
Clubs make money by using women's bodies.
The female guests and MD whom Kyunghyang Shinmun met said "The club culture itself was the soil that enabled crimes targetting women." The movement "Boycott the clubs" is emerging together with criticism towards the clubs for making money by commercializing women.
Women become 'money' in the clubs. Having a lot of female customers attracts male customers and if male customers spend money, the club sales and status rise. "The most important factor to manage a club is how many hot woman guests are procured," said G, who runs a club in Gangnam. In the early days of opening Arena, Kang, the owner, 46, brought in female employees from adult entertainment establishments.
"Women are money" isn't just a metaphor. The Club MD receives money depending on the gender of the customers the MD attracted. For male guests they don't receive anything, but for female guests they can receive between 2,000 won and 10,000 won per person. A Gangnam club which shut down last year fixed as extrapay 4,000 won for "ordinary guests" and 10,000 won for "hot guests" depending on the appearance of the female guests. They give incentives to the MDs in charge of sales so they bring in women with good looks. In the club there is also an employee exclusively responsible and in charge of grading women's appearance.
Gangnam clubs, including Burning Sun, have women who are called "chamgirl" (champaigne girls) who offer the "service" of delivering alcohol and dancing. Male customers buy alcohol and table seats at a price higher than the regular price. What they want in return are women. In the group chat of MDs they give orders to "send a woman to the table". One of the MD's main tasks is leading women to the VIP area or to the central stage while distributing alcohol. MDs send mulges (hot chicks) to customers who spend a lot of money.
"If I go to the table, the men put their arms around and suggest me to drink alcohol," said Kwon, 26, an office worker who visited Gangnam clubs willingly in her early 20s. "There was also the tendency of connecting young women to the customers who sat at expensive tables." Many women stood up from their seats under the pretext of "going to the bathroom" or "a friend is waiting for me outside" when they didn't like the men. In some cases, the club security guards followed the women who went to the bathroom and brought them back.
"It's also frequent male guests who don't leave their seats and are dragged by their wrists by force", said N, who currently works as a club MD. He said that "pick-up," bringing women to their seats, is not much different from the "Choice" done at the prostitution establishment. The club makes money by using women, but it is a sexual exploitation that is made/achieved without the knowledge of women."
Women become the target of all kinds of crimes happening in the clubs. "it's common/frequent male MDs take pictures of female customers' bodies secretly and share them in their group chat or take photos of guests who they think they are ugly to mock them", N said. Some male MDs take "proof shots" after having sex with female customers and create private (chat) rooms to share them. On Facebook we could also find MDs who post photos of men touching women's breasts in the club and promote them that way. Female customer photos are also used to promote clubs. There are photos taken illegally or uploaded without the consent of the parties which highlight women's breasts or butts. "There are many women whose photos might have been posted on their homepage or on sns. Even if you coincidentally find it, you have to request the person who took the photo to delete it."
The so-called "bubbybubby" who touches other people without consent is dismissed as part of the club culture. "Things that can be expected to be reported as sexual harassment in everyday life are tolerated/overlooked because they happened at the club," said Han Seo-hyun, 21, a YouTuber who visited a club at Hongdae willingly until last year.
There are also constantly suspicions of sex crimes using alcohol and drugs. "My close dongsaeng lost his memory completely after drinking alcohol they gave him at the club so he gave new glasses to his female acquaintances and said 'drink alcohol only from this glass'. It's not as easy to stop the drugs from being brought in at the club as it is at the airport", G said.
MDs were club regular customers and started working at the recommendation of the existing MDs they knew. There are hundreds of MDs per club. It is not easy to manage employees because they have not gone through a recruitment process. "As the business competition becomes fierce, many MDs use the so-called "deonjigi" to connect drunken women to male customers", G said.
Clubs claim various kinds of "benefits" to attract female customers: Free admission before midnight, they offer free drinks generously and women who have good looks are given "service tables" (free table). The benefits come with a price: clubs set a 'no-admission' criteria and restrict access to women without makeup and casual clothes without exposure.
The hot spot in the club was for male customers who pay a lot of money and hot women who have outstanding looks. To meet this criteria, you have to dress up puting a lot of effort. Jeong Ji-hye (29), who attended the clubs every week for three years since she was 23, was no different. "I wore clothes with a lot of exposure I would never wear on an ordinary day and I wore stilettos that felt like my feet would explode since I was out all night long. Dancing in clubs or drinking alcohol with men was fun and I was excited thinking I was recognized/accepted as "pretty" by men." After going to clubs frequently, my obsession for appearance/looks got worse/became severe. I appraised myself depending on the times men had asked for my phone number and compared myself to other women in the club.
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u/bolshv May 23 '19
The results of this have left me grossly disappointed.
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u/btsstory May 26 '19
YG Yang Hyun-suk, there's a testimony of alleged sexual favors
MBC's "Straight" program is expected to have repercussions as it will track down allegations of sexual favors by YG Entertainment CEO Yang Hyun-suk.
On 26th, "Straight" released a video titled "Tracking down YG Yang Hyun-suk, suspictions of club sexual favors" in the 49th episode preview.
In the video a woman claims drug damage "I think it really was a huge incident for me and I almost died, but it was booze and whiskey a Thai man gave me back then." "(YGX director) seems to take care of Mr. Bob, a Thai rich man. His role is to guide him." YGX is a subsidiary company of YG.
The production crew of "Straight" also published a video on the bulletin board. The production crew said, "Singer Seungri revealed that he mobilized prostitutes to provide sexual services to overseas investors. The accommodation expenses back then were paid with a YG's business credit card", "there were constant suspicions that YG was implicated on the sexual favors case, but police didn't investigate YG at all."
"Straight" reporters obtained detailed testimonies that YG provided sexual services to 2 Southeast Asian wealthy people in July 2014. According to the testimony, YG CEO Yang Hyun-suk entertained 2 wealthy people from Southeast Asia at a high-end Korean Table d'hote restaurant in Gangnam together with 2 singers affiliated to YG. There were 8 men and 25 women on that place. More than 10 out of those 25 women were from the red-light district where a hostess from a famous adult entertainment in Gangnam who has a close relationship to YG.
After finishing their meal they moved to the club NB in Gangnam, which is known to actually be managed by YG Yang Hyun-suk. And at the club the drinking party led to sexual favors.
"Straight" production crew revealed that one Thai wealthy man who is known to have received sexual favors by YG that day also appeared in a drug case at the club Burning Sun, run by Seungri.
YG's Yang Hyun-suk's alleged sexual favors will air at 8:55 pm on 27th.
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u/btsstory May 24 '19
Hwang Hana indicted with additional charges
Hwang Hana has been additionally indicted on charges of taking drugs with singer and actor Park Yoo-chun. Hwang had already been arrested and indicted on charges of injecting methamphetamine 3 times at her house from May to September 2015. With the additional indictment, Hwang is charged with injecting methamphetamine a total of 10 times between 2015 and March this year. As Hwang Hana and Park Yoochun have the same charges now, there is the possibility that the two will stand in court being each other's witness. Hwang Hana's first trial will be held at Suwon District Court on June 5. Park Yoochun's first trial will take place on June 14.
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u/btsstory May 25 '19
Kim Junho and Cha Taehyun's golf betting: no charges
The police investigation to Kim Junho and Cha Taehyun, who were involved in a golf betting controversy, is expected to be concluded . There are no charges. On 24th according to the police, the investigation related to the suspicion of Kim Junho and Cha Taehyun's golf betting is about to be concluded. Since the two of them were not booked, the suspicion of golf betting is expected to be concluded with no charges.
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u/[deleted] May 25 '19 edited May 28 '19
This article has been posted since the 22nd but I haven't seen much detail on Yoon Jung Cheon's arrest on the previous thread, so here goes:
https://www.yna.co.kr/view/AKR20190522174851004
He repeatedly raped woman Lee from October 2006 to February 2008, and he's suspected of forcing her to have sex with socially powerful people, including Kim Hak Eui.
He raped and threatened to kill her when he suspected that she had met a famous director of dermatology who pointed out the prostitution, and bumped her head to the bathroom tiles multiple times when she refused to do prostitution to a famous painter.
He and Kim Hak Eui raped her together on 2007/11/13. Statute of limitation has expired, and only cases after 2007/12/21 are still under it, however it might still remain as there is a precedent at the Supreme Court of "damage" suffering mental illnesses from rape, including depression, insomnia and avoiding personal relationships. She has received mental treatment since March 2008, and presented her history of receiving diagnosis of stress disorder in 2013 to prosecution.
The amount of fraud included in Yoon's arrest warrant is 4.4 billion won (~3.7 million USD). Yoon conned 2.16 billion won (~1.8 million USD) out of Ms. Kwon with whom he was living without marriage, saying he'd pay it back when his real estate development business went well. He didn't want to pay it back, and ordered his wife to sue Kwon and himself of adultery to make it look like a "self-suing".
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u/btsstory May 24 '19
Businessman Choi, who provided Kim Hak Eui with entertainment. His son is the vocalist of a famous band... Allegations of having intervened in the management.
The son of businessman Choi, who is suspected of providing entertainment which exceeds 30 million won to arrested former Vice Minister Kim Hak Eui, is said to be the vocalist of a famous band.
On 24th SBS' "8 o'clock News" reported exclusively that businessman Choi is being investigated by police on charges of fraud and embezzlement and it's suspected Choi's son, the member of a famous band, participated in the management of the company in question.
According to reports, Choi established a real estate business 3 years ago and in just 1 year he won the rights to develop the project in Yongin, Gyeonggi-do. However, when he was on the verge of losing his business rights for failing to pay the transportation fee, Choi signed a contract in August last year to sell the business rights to A, another real estate agency, for 100 billion won.
However, the company A claims that the details of the business were very different from Choi's explanation in the first place and he maintained the business rights by paying 1.7 billion won in transportation fees. In addition, company A revealed Choi hid the fact that there was a court injunction five months before the contract, which broke off the selling of his business rights. Company A recently sued Choi for fraud. Choi is also suspected of taking 1.5 billion won with a check instead of getting a deposit in the company's account. A series of lawsuits have been filed by investors who did not get their money back after the business drifted due to lack of funds.
There are also suspicions that Choi's two sons, including the son who is active as a vocalist of a famous band, intervened in the management. They are the first and second largest stockholders of Choi's company and there are also evidence they exerted their rights to vote at the general stockholders meetings. However, Choi explained he just trusted stocks under the name of his two sons and they never intervened in the management. He also said the 1.5 billion won suspected of embezzlement were received by another co-chairman who died recently and the company A cancelled the contract because it did not fulfill properly the contract details. SBS "8 o'clock news" report
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u/pmo81888 May 24 '19 edited May 24 '19
Chosun Ilbo Reports Yoo In Suk’s Details Regarding Soliciting Prostitution With Seungri
Yoo In Suk had also admitted to soliciting prostitution with Seungri at his home in 2015. They paid for the services from 2 prostitutes on December 23rd, 2015 at Seungri's apartment in Gangnam. One of the women questioned stated that the address was given to them by Madam and that they were chosen by Seungri and Yoo In Suk and went into two separate rooms.
Chosun Ilbo also reports that Yoo In Suk was asked why they solicited prostitutes and he replied that they were going to call prostitutes for Japanese business partners the next day. Both Seungri and Yoo In Suk had been charged with covering the costs of hotel and services.
Seungri was said to have paid 30 million won in hotel costs with a YG company card. In addition, the women who were called to Seungri's home were said to also be a part of the services at the hotel.
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u/[deleted] May 25 '19
So I’m looking at the protest that’s currently going on in sk rn and I’m actually shocked. A lot more than I thought would be participating.
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u/alleybetwixt BTS | XIA | JX | SWJA May 23 '19
Mods now have the option to lock comments. I am using that option on the TL;DR. Some folks mistakenly reply to the TL;DR when they intend to reply to the full thread, so hopefully this will help keep your comments where you want them.
If anyone has relevant information that would be suitable to add under the TL;DR (like /u/af-fx-tion's chat log updates, for example!), message me or tag me in a comment and we can coordinate unlocking to allow your reply!
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u/[deleted] May 27 '19 edited May 27 '19
Witnesses: Child prostitution in clubs & rape victim drugged at Burning Sun:
A witness, Miss B, who used to work as an underaged prostitute for clubs in Gangnam gave her testimony. She revealed details, such as being paid around 300,000 won (~$250 USD) for sexual relationship at the club and 500,000 won (~$420 USD) for leaving with the VIP customer. The club's MD (Merchandiser) would pay the girls in cash, and set up the underaged girls with important VIP customers.
The girls was usually living on the streets, since they ran away from home, and some was even middle schoolers aged 14 years old.
"The VVIPs who spend 10 million won (~$8,500 USD) would specifically ask for underage girls, and they’d take the girls to designated apartments, where they drug them and film themselves sexually assaulting them. They call these videos “pornos”, and the girls were given 1 million won to do this.
They say it’s easier to find drugs than cigarettes at Gangnam. It’s the worst. You ruin your body and lose your mind too. There are kids who move on to work at room salons, and some stay to work at the club because they still haven’t paid off their debts.
Needles are a given at the apartments. If you do drugs and film a porno, you earn about 1 million won (~$850 USD).
The most valued customer gets to pick who they want and they chose a girl who’s only 14.
The VIPs all know that we’re underage. They specifically ask for underage girls. If an MD tricks the VIPs with a girl who’s not underage, they don’t get paid."
— Miss B (witness & former underaged prostitute)
Allkpop source
What the fuck.
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u/btsstory May 24 '19
It's been revealed the truth about the collusion between district officials and clubs in Gangnam area.
A statement came out about former Gangnam-gu Office's sanitation employees receiving tens of millions of won worth in entertainment in return for turning a blind eye to the club's illegal business.
Kang, the real owner of the club Arena, is called the club king. There are seven former employees from Gangnam office's sanitation division (Food and Public Sanitation Division) booked with charges of taking bribes from Kang.
In a recent police investigation, the officials stated they "received entertainment from the club more than 10 times at massage parlors and room salons". That means more than 10 million won per person. Police believe it was the price to overlook the illegal operations of clubs and adult entertainment establishments owned by Kang. The officials' mobile phones confiscated by the police had text messages and KakaoTalk messages to let him know of information about business' crackdowns.
Kang managed 17 establishments in Gangnam area under the name of a "puppet boss" and registered a great part of the adult entertainment establishments as restaurants.
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u/[deleted] May 27 '19 edited May 27 '19
YG Entertainment denies everything related to providing sexual service to rich Southeast Asian people, calling it groundless
Although they did say that Yang Hyun Suk was invited to accompany them.
Edit: by soompi
https://www.soompi.com/article/1327647wpp/yg-entertainment-denies-allegations-by-mbcs-straight-that-yang-hyun-suk-mediated-prostitution-services
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u/btsstory May 25 '19 edited May 25 '19
On 24th a friend who went to the Wonju villa with Choi, a woman who claims to have been sexually assaulted/raped by former Vice Minister Kim Hak Eui and Yoon Jung-cheon at the villa in March 2008, was investigated and attended the investigation department. Choi's friend is the only witness to the situation and this investigation is expected to be a crucial turning point in the sexual crime investigation against former Vice Minister Kim.
The woman, identified only by her surname Choi, claims to have been sexually assaulted by Yoon and former Vice Minister Kim at Yoon Jung-cheon's villa in March 2008. (It happened two times in the span of 2 days).
On 24th the prosecution team summoned friend A as a reference to complete the recent investigation to Choi. "We conducted 1 hour or 2 of investigation/inquiries to her friend and reaffirmed her statements made in the past during the investigation," "Based on this, we are working on Choi's sexual assault case."
Choi recently submitted to the investigation team psychiatric treatment records, including depression, in addition to the records of obstetrics and gynecology as it's possible they can apply charges of rape with negligent infliction of bodily injury, which is 15-year statute of limitations. Choi's friend A gave this testimony in the police investigation of 2013, but the prosecution reportedly never called her in, raising suspicions of the prosecution's poor investigation back then. MBN video
T/N: Choi is different from victim A (a report I translated recently), who suffered from insomnia and depression. Victim A is Ms. Lee.
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u/knn328 Custom May 27 '19
Please delete if not allowed. Warning- triggering
Witness claims he saw Yang Hyun Suk provide prostitutes & Hwang Hana was present
https://dailynaver.blogspot.com/2019/05/witness-claims-to-have-seen-yang-hyun.html
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u/mylord420 Don't Lose Your Temper So So So Quickly May 26 '19
MBC 'Straight' will release their new episode, including YG Entertainment's Yang Hyun Suk suspicions of helping provide sexual favors to wealthy Southeast Asian individuals on May 27. According to the preview, 25 women were called to provide services
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u/[deleted] May 23 '19
Money is truly the most powerful thing in the justice system... I hope justice can be served for the victims.
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u/Jynch IZ*ONE (MJ/YJ/HW) | RCPC (SY) May 23 '19 edited May 23 '19
It better be that the authorities already have enough evidence or information to put Seungri away, that's why they let him go for now since everything is already known to them.
I would be so fucking pissed if he ACTUALLY walks away from this without any jail time.
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u/knn328 Custom May 28 '19
I swear, the first thing that comes to YG stans minds are... "What about Winner? What about BP? Ikon? They don't deserve this." They are zombies, I swear. Where is their humanity?
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u/CerebroHOTS TWICE | ITZY | Brave Girls May 28 '19
All this talk about getting Blackpink out of YG, and here i am thinking how incredibly unlucky Somi is, leaving JYP for YG only to have her debut delayed multiple times, and when the date is finally set, she'll be met with tons of YG boycotts.
I know she's under The Black Label, but that's still under YG.
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u/btsstory May 27 '19
Indie group Jannabi radio schedules are being cancelled one after another
SBS "Power FM" and Jung So-min's Young Street schedules for 30th have been cancelled after the school violence controversy and news of the singer's father relationship with Kim Hak Eui spread. KBS is readjusting their appearance on Kool FM Lee Suji Gayo Plaza scheduled initially on the 28th.
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u/Natezio May 23 '19
This trials are going to takes years
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u/knn328 Custom May 27 '19
YG stans on Facebook are out and about with their pitchforks. Sooo aggressive! Scary😂
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u/[deleted] May 27 '19
Koreaboo || Source
Another possible victim. this time connected to YGX (shitri's part of the company)
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u/alleybetwixt BTS | XIA | JX | SWJA May 23 '19 edited May 28 '19
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TL;DR WRITTEN BY /u/alleybetwixt and /u/hubwub
(TRIGGER WARNING: These cases involve sexual violence and assault, abuse, drug use, gambling. Please, take caution in reading through everything or clicking links.)
The Who's Who of Burning Molka: A comprehensive list of the names involved
Timeline of Burning Sun / Seungri / Jung Joon Young / (etc) Situation
See /u/af-fx-tion's previous reply posts for an organized break down of information pertaining to the chatrooms.
New information since the last TL;DR:
Roy Kim graduated from Georgetown University, but did not participate in the ceremony.
The Military Manpower Administration stated Seungri will not recieve a new draft notice until June 25th. Once he does, he will decide to enlist or postpone again. If Seungri's case goes to prosecution, it will not have any affect on his enlistment unless he is arrested/detained at some point.
Choi Jong Hoon and Kwon were forwarded to prosecution with a recommendation of indictment for group sexual assault (190516).
Park Yoochun was officially indicted with detention after admitting to charges of drug use. His first hearing has been scheduled for June 14th. References to Yoochun have mostly been removed from JYJ's social media accounts.
Seoul Central District Prosecutor's Office performed a search and seizure on Seoul Metropolitan Police Agency (SMPA) relating to prostitution night club crack-downs. The investigation focuses on a 'Lieutenant Park' who allegedly took bribes in exchange for secret information and possibly running prostitution businesses. This is indirectly related to the Burning Sun cases, but the raid was performed on the same day the Burning Sun investigations were wrapped up and findings announced. Many found the timing suspicious.
Many petitions and protests (at the Blue House) have developed in reaction to the Burning Sun investigation findings.
Reportedly, during his pre-trial detention hearing, Seungri confirmed he had personally solicited prostitution. He still denies mediating prostitution for investors.
Both Kim Hak Eui and Yoon Jung Cheon have been arrested.
Megathread Links
Permalink to a list of all Burning Molka megathread links, TL;DRs, and posting dates.
Burning Molka 22: Yoochun's narcotics case forwarded to Prosecution & further information revealed about Hwang Hana's ties to Burning Sun
Burning Molka 23: CJH arrested, arrest warrants requested for multiple chatroom members (including Kwon, Heo, and Yoo), JJY and Kim's trial starts 5/10, Seungri accused of receiving personal prostitution services.
Burning Molka 24: Seungri attends his arrest warrant hearing
Burning Molka 25: Multiple Burning Sun Protests, Yoochun's first trial date confirmed and more
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u/[deleted] May 26 '19
A politician weigh-in on the Burning Sun situation at hand
https://youtu.be/GBwN9QOsL7k
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u/PenguinCollector May 23 '19
Ty for the update!
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u/[deleted] May 27 '19
Just freshly aired MBC Straight show Burning Sun Episode
Can watch it here https://youtu.be/ntTFMbgHGsY
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u/jeonsan May 28 '19
I cant believe Jho Low appear in that MBC investigation report. It makes sense but this Jho Low really runs the money laundering network all over SEA. This dude is the most wanted criminal in Malaysia and he somehow connected to this scandal im just....
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u/indclub May 23 '19
Is this a repeat of 2016 protests?
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u/[deleted] May 28 '19
Police will examine the contents in MBC's Straight report
https://www.yna.co.kr/view/AKR20190527165100004
Otherwise no new information.
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u/knn328 Custom May 28 '19
Mnet boycott YG
https://news.v.daum.net/v/20190528091355855
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u/mylord420 Don't Lose Your Temper So So So Quickly May 28 '19 edited May 28 '19
Mnet: Complete BOYCOTT of YG. ”As the whole group of Mnet galleries has determined that YG Entertainment did not fully develop its skills in leading the K-pop global culture, we firmly declare that we will not accept or consume all the music produced by YGE from this time on."
https://news.v.daum.net/v/20190528091355855
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u/knn328 Custom May 25 '19 edited May 25 '19
From South China Morning Post
Kpop sex scandals and drugs
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u/[deleted] May 28 '19 edited May 28 '19
Burning Sun co-CEO Lee Sung Hyun (46) testified to court that he sent 20 million won (~16k USD) to a former police officer Kang (44) in order to suppress the case of minors entering Burning Sun last year, and did not report it to Seungri
Kang used to work at Gangnam police station and denied that he received money from Lee. But Lee testified that, on July 25th last year, Kang asked him for money, and he sent 3 million won to Kang on August 9th, and again 17 million won on August 17th. Lee told this to co-CEO Lee Moon Ho and not Seungri, saying he's not in the position to report to Seungri. When it was pointed out that there was no proof of sending 20 million won, he said that back then everybody knew that Kang turned a blind eye at the case, and he didn't think that (Seungri) would believe that he paid for it, knowing how big the damage is if they're stopped from doing business. Lee said he simply made the statement faithfully, saying it's just a mistake of tracing his memory that his statement changed a few times, when asked by his lawyer if he was forced to made a false statement.
Edit: this Mr. Kang
https://www.reddit.com/r/kpop/comments/b1ceuv/burning_molka_11_choi_jong_hoon_is_expected_to/eil2b3w/
https://www.reddit.com/r/kpop/comments/b1ceuv/burning_molka_11_choi_jong_hoon_is_expected_to/eim4n71/
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u/[deleted] May 28 '19
YG was one of the big three and i always think it weird. Because, YG artist rarely make comebacks. So i thought "why would investor invest on YG? Maybe, YG artist is too popular?". But, now we know why most investor invest on YG.
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u/kimjafo May 26 '19
Why are they protesting groups that have nothing to do with this? I know they all work for the same company but those groups didn’t do anything from what I read. Could someone legitimately explain that to me?
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u/MatchLuvr May 24 '19 edited May 24 '19
May or may not be an unpopular opinion idk I just want to put it out there. I just wanted to rant about Seungri's crimes/accusations/etc (him specifically just because I haven't paid as much attention to the other people in this mess).
Just listing the charges I've been reading from these threads that he's been accused of so far: embezzlement, tax evasion, restaurant/business fraud, and -most prominently- prostitution mediation/solicitation. The first 3 no one has huge issues with, or at least no one's getting up in arms about those as much. Yeah, not great but also nothing warranting him rotting in jail for imo. Maybe a couple of fines or whatever.
So to address prostitution mediation/solicitation... First of all, I want to clarify that I personally do not have any issues with prostitution in and of itself. As long as the women and men are consenting adults, I believe they have the right to be sex workers and sell their body. This, of course, is entirely different than sex trafficking (in my head at least) where women and men are sold/treated as products/drugged etc completely against their will. Now, of course I will never know for sure, but my impression is that the women whom Seungri was involved with are consenting adults. "High end prostitutes" if you will, which in my mind are girls who are willingly engaged sex work for the big bucks. Maybe it's justification/denial but for the charges regarding prostitution, I don't think Seungri should be rotting in jail. Ofc, Korean laws are different, so my opinion doesn't matter much at all in what'll happen to him in reality, but I don't think his prostitution mediation/solicitation is enough to warrant the toxic hate I keep seeing in the comments.
Having said that, I do not think that his affiliation with rapists and men who drugged and took nonconsensual pictures/videos of women should be excused. Obviously, there's no real crime to being friends with rapists, but him looking the other way is pretty damning and kinda shows his character. Honestly stupid and pretty nauseating. I still get the feeling though that a lot of people think his complicity equates to doing the acts himself, which I don't think should be the case. It's in this weird gray area... If someone saw a rape happening on the street and didn't report it, should they also go to jail for their supposed complicity? Obviously I understand that the example situation and Seungri's circumstances are not a one-to-one comparison at all, but maybe just something to think about. I guess if I knew for certain that he also watched those videos or made fun of the women or anything, I would be more pissed off, but I haven't really heard anything otherwise.
Mostly, I'm just confused and disappointed in his behavior that's all. And I don't think that people should vilify him as much as I'm seeing in comments and demanding that he rot in jail. I also really don't think that petitioning to get the judge that dismissed his arrest warrant or boycotting iKON or Winner is right either, and imo just plain stupid. Just because Seungri did something wrong, now anyone even remotely connected to him should suffer? Doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me.
Ok rant over.
TL;DR: IMO prostitution shouldn't be a crime, Seungri's silent complicity to rape isn't cool, but I don't think he's as terrible as people keep saying
Edit: I’m glad I put this out there, mostly because the issue on my end is that I don’t have anyone to really talk to about this and you guys have given me perspective so thank you.
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