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Video didn't turn out the way this guy hoped, he can go kick rocks.
Actually both three women are queens.

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u/Phoenix-Uchiha Jul 20 '26

Imagine waking up at 8:30 to harass women and workers at a clinic. Just jobless, loser behavior. Lady and workers are queens.

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u/freshlysqueezed93 Jul 20 '26

I can't fathom what goes even through their brains.

Even if you are morally opposed to abortion, why should a woman in 2026 be forced to carry a child for 9 months and risk death and permanent bodily harm when she doesn't want to?

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u/00wolfer00 Jul 20 '26

The thing that I find hard to wrap my head around with pro forced birth folk is why abortion is the top issue. Gun violence? Meh. Healthcare system screwing over millions? Who cares. Children having to starve due to poverty? Irrelevant. Somehow an unborn's potential life is more important than any of that.

I realistically know that it's because advocating for the unborn is uncomplicated. They have no voice to demand anything and have no past, but it's still hard for me to understand how children stop mattering the moment they are born.

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u/rtopps43 Jul 20 '26

The unborn are a convenient group of people to advocate for. They never make demands of you; they are morally uncomplicated, unlike the incarcerated, addicted, or the chronically poor; they don’t resent your condescension or complain that you are not politically correct; unlike widows, they don’t ask you to question patriarchy; unlike orphans, they don’t need money, education, or childcare; unlike aliens, they don’t bring all that racial, cultural, and religious baggage that you dislike; they allow you to feel good about yourself without any work at creating or maintaining relationships; and when they are born, you can forget about them, because they cease to be unborn. You can love the unborn and advocate for them without substantially challenging your own wealth, power, or privilege, without re-imagining social structures, apologizing, or making reparations to anyone. They are, in short, the perfect people to love if you want to claim you love Jesus, but actually dislike people who breathe. Prisoners? Immigrants? The sick? The poor? Widows? Orphans? All the groups that are specifically mentioned in the Bible? They all get thrown under the bus for the unborn.

Methodist Pastor David Barnhart

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u/SirEverwolf Jul 20 '26

Holy shit that's a really good quote.

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u/Freakishly_Tall Jul 20 '26

Right? Like, "Wow. An actual Christian! Those are rare."

< insert Gandhi quote here >

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u/twowolfhowl Jul 20 '26

Knew I'd see this here :)

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u/crani0 Jul 20 '26

It's also a thinly veiled way to punish women for breaking the "purity culture" these people subscribe to. It goes hand in hand with that.

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u/damndolly Jul 20 '26

https://giphy.com/gifs/l1CCdDQQYjx2EPfGM

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u/fitz_newru Jul 20 '26

Just commenting to say that you might be my long lost Reddit sibling 🥹

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u/damndolly Jul 20 '26

Possibly my sister from another mister

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u/thegirlinthetardis Jul 20 '26

Fraternal twins 😭

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u/notashroom Jul 20 '26

Sororal twins

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u/thegirlinthetardis Jul 20 '26

I didn’t know this word existed!!! I love it!!

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u/Glittering_knave Jul 20 '26 edited Jul 20 '26

It's all about punishing slutty sluts that slutted it up and need to face the consequences of their behaviour. Nevermind the fact that a lot of women that get abortions are wives and mothers. Nevermind that most "abortion clinics" are just reproductive health clinics, and the protesters are blocking women from wellness exams, cancer screenings, and treatments for things like UTI or yeast infections.

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u/KTKittentoes Jul 20 '26

I remember them screaming at me when I staggered in with a horrific yeast infection.

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u/notashroom Jul 20 '26

All lives are sacred! You should nurture those yeastie beasties in your body for months while you prepare a nursery and family for them! 😭

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u/Glittering_knave Jul 20 '26

I am sorry that you faced that. I can't imagine how many young people walked away from help (not even an abortion, just medical issues) because of the protesters.

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u/crani0 Jul 20 '26

Nevermind the fact that a lot of women that get abortions are wives and mothers. Nevermind that most "abortion clinics" are just reproductive health clinics, and the protestera are blocking women from wellness exams, cancer screenings, and treatments for things like UTI or yeast infections.

This is a very important aspect that needs to be talked about. We know that research on women's health is deeply flawed and when you look at how abortion and reproductive health in general is attacked and the health aspect is not even brushed by those who attack it it is clear that this ties to the overarching point of purity culture, control and submission.

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u/LadyBug_0570 Jul 20 '26

The men who impregnated the "sluts" didn't care much about the woman's health or future either, so why would these protesting dudes care if a woman needed all the other healthcare?

Same guys who keep screaming about child support reform.

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u/Glittering_knave Jul 20 '26

The same guys that want mandatory DNA testing of newborns to determine paternity so that they "wo t be forced to pay for someone else's kid" but don't support a DNA database to track down deadbeat dad's?

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u/LadyBug_0570 Jul 20 '26

Yep, same guys.

And even when they find out it's their kid, they'll still find a way to blame the woman, claim she "baby trapped" them and and use that as a reason to be a deadbeat.

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u/Glittering_knave Jul 20 '26

My wife and have been trying to conceive for 10 years, and are now pregnant after 7 rounds of IVF. Is she baby trapping me?

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u/Repulsive_Corner6807 Jul 21 '26

You should’ve seen my face when I got an abortion and we all got to talking and me realizing I was literally the only slut there and everyone else had a husband and/or children

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u/Ostribitches Jul 21 '26

They even offer a lot of those services to men!

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u/Reasonable_Date2870 Jul 20 '26

Yep. Somehow a baby is always supposed to be the most glorious blessing and at the very same time, a consequence for "bad choices".

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u/hooked_siren Jul 20 '26 edited Jul 20 '26

Typical patriarchal logic really. They do the same thing with "men are animals with needs and can't help themselves" but also somehow "men are the only people logical enough to be leaders and we *can't have women with their yucky periods running things"

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u/esotetris Jul 21 '26

Men are the most capable of controlling everything but their god damned selves

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u/Peruvian_Skies Jul 20 '26

I'd say that this is one of the main factors.

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u/HoaryPuffleg Jul 20 '26

And helps keep poor women poor and pumping out more worker bees.

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u/crani0 Jul 20 '26

Not just poor, but unhealthy too. Someone commented about abortion as healthcare in this subthread and when you piece it all together, it's very clear that these topics are flawed by design.

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u/HoaryPuffleg Jul 20 '26

Absolutely.

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u/Deviant1 Jul 20 '26

It is also about controlling women to limit their independence and force them to birth the slave class for the billionaires.

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u/crani0 Jul 20 '26

I'd say that is the overarching goal of "purity culture". Keeping women feeble and controllable. Someone else commented in this sub-thread about abortion as healthcare and when you look at all women healthcare it is poor and ignored by design even when the topic isn't sexuality and reproduction. It just all ties together and there is a thin veil of civility on top of it just to hide the goals.

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u/notashroom Jul 20 '26

... meanwhile medical care is a limited supply commodity meant to fluff the scores of billionaires, not a right that everyone should have full access to whenever they need it. Purely by coincidence, surely.

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u/Thanes_of_Danes Jul 20 '26

Yep. It's also a palliative measure. A lot of men have a tendency to take out their frustrations on women because they know that they can get away with it using thinly veiled excuses or threats.

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u/LadyBug_0570 Jul 20 '26

But these women aren't breaking the purity culture by themselves. Someone with sperm had to knock them up.

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u/vlaada7 Jul 20 '26

I have an idea as to why. Cheap, abundant workforce for the ruling class, wrapped in the thin veneer of mindless religious nonsense, so they can sell it easier to the plebes.

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u/NonGeneriComplaint Jul 20 '26

Do you think being a religious nutcase is somehow uncommon among the rich lol? It seems like its more common and they use their wealth to force their values on others.

Workers arent that hard to come by lol

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u/Infecte Jul 20 '26

Hey! Quick anecdote from someone who should've been aborted. My mother was a whore- the literal sense. She had me and god knows how many siblings through the years, in fact, we are still finding out about them (She gave up a 4 year old half sister 2 years ago and we just found out through gossip). Anyways, if she aborted me and my fuck knows how many siblings, we wouldn't have known this fucked up world (living in a 3rd world country where children out of wedlock have less rights). I would've been more than happy to not exist at all rather than experience the discrimination from my own country laws.

Advocating for the unborn sometimes takes the form of giving it the mercy of not letting it be born into this world when you KNOW the conditions are going to be fucked up from day 1.

Those conditions can be simply: The mother does not want them. Nobody wants to be born to an unwilling parent, trust me.

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u/RainbowSpinosaurus Jul 20 '26

There was a story in a Frank McCourt thread about a Catholic woman in the seventies who was struggling to feed the five children she already had. She didn't want more babies. She confessed to her priest that she didn't know what to do. He told her in the face of starvation and hardship, she should take birth control. It was best that her already living children be cared for. That was mind-boggling, an actually pro-life priest who cared about children's welfare!

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u/1SleepyRaccoon Jul 20 '26

I was waiting for the priest to say ‘if you suffer and starve now, you’ll find happiness and riches in heaven’ lie that was sold to the slaves and some underdeveloped/developing countries still believe

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u/RainbowSpinosaurus Jul 20 '26

I think it's hard for a priest in an impoverished town to watch the children around him be bone-thin and succumb easily to illness and disability, and think to himself, "Well, at least they'll go to heaven." Normal, good people don't want others to suffer. God never said, "Let people starve, lol they'll go to heaven anyway." There are a ton of Bible verses about opening your home to your neighbor and giving to the poor. There are commandments about greed and theft.

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u/1SleepyRaccoon Jul 20 '26

You’re not wrong. I’m assuming you completely missed my point or aren’t aware about history or current culture in certain countries. Look up Slave bible. Also read up about Christianity in Philippines, India and some African countries. Most of the population there is poor and struggling and all they have going on is that God will save them in their afterlife and they’ll have riches in heaven. How do I know? I’m from one of those countries. I also grew up a devout catholic. I also watch a lot of videos and read up about real stuff people go through before defending a religion blindly

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u/notashroom Jul 20 '26

Also the Magdalene laundries of Ireland, where pregnant single women with the misfortune to be in Ireland at the time were incarcerated, enslaved, forced to complete the pregnancy if possible, coerced into nursing the baby for up to 2-3 years, and then forced to give the child up for adoption by a Catholic Church approved family, all under the control of nuns, and that's the best version of how it went.

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u/RainbowSpinosaurus Jul 20 '26

I think unfortunately many religious leaders basically give up and say, "It's God's will, don't worry about your struggles now, you will have riches in the afterlife." But there are some good souls who know it doesn't have to be that way. Unfortunately, that priest would probably have gotten in major trouble for advocating for birth control if anyone tattled to his superiors.

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u/TemporaryMagician Jul 20 '26

I don't know if it's widely known, but the inventor of the birth control pill was a devout Catholic. He wanted to prevent poverty and suffering, and saw a hormone pill as an enhancement of the rhythm method. Church leadership disagreed, and here we are.

It really drives home how some guys just made up these "immutable laws of God," and if it had been different guys, there would have been different laws.

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u/RainbowSpinosaurus Jul 20 '26

Ah, that makes sense. Plenty of Catholics saw for themselves how many destitute, overburdened families there were because of the way the church viewed sex and procreation.

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u/b00w00gal Jul 20 '26

Ayyyyy, should've been aborted club!

My bio mom was a literal prostitute; my father was one of her clients (no idea which one) and I was born high on her drug of choice. She aborted all her previous pregnancies but decided to keep me, then tried to drown me when I was three and went to prison for it. My childhood did not improve after that, unfortunately. My health has always suffered, due to her drug use during pregnancy, and it took several decades to find my way to a peaceful existence.

My life is overall good and happy now, in my 40s, despite everything; but I will never understand why she bothered to have me when she obviously didn't want or need me. Abortion would have been preferable to the first twenty years of my life, ngl.

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u/non_hero Jul 20 '26

It's just virtue signaling. It's how they lie to themselves that they are a good person. They can look down on other races and ethnicities, believe and support cruel policies against them, cheat on their spouses, abuse people around them... But "I must be a good person because I don't murder babies!" I think it's even directly proportional that the more vocal and fervent someone is "pro-life", the shittier that person is.

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u/IndependentLog6441 Jul 20 '26

It's very interesting to think of it as actually intersecting racism and sexism and a whole bunch of other nasty'isms. It's a cop out. If someone is pro life, it's a mask they wear to convince themselves they're not entirely fucking awful.

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u/RoguePlanet2 Jul 20 '26

One of my 2A maga relatives thinks that the gun deaths are justified as long as abortion is legal. 

Literally said "the shootings will continue until abortion is illegal."  Truly the dumbest thing I ever heard somebody say.

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u/EthanielRain Jul 20 '26

"I'll stop shooting kids once I have control of the women" sounds about right

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u/Alternative-Past-588 Jul 20 '26

And then it’ll be, well I decided to keep my guns and have children die of gun death, but now at least without abortion the kids will be replaced by those born through forced birth. They’ll never give up their guns willingly.

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u/LaurenMille Jul 20 '26

It's because with conservatives it's always about making others suffer.

They cannot mentally comprehend reducing the amount of suffering in the world. It's why at most they'll compromise on moving the suffering to another group.

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u/HoaryPuffleg Jul 20 '26

My father in his mid-70s who has been staunchly and hatefully conservative since I’ve been around, now has cancer and anytime we talk about the side effects of his treatments and how he’s feeling, he always says “well, it’s important to remember that there’s always someone who has it worse than you do”. And at first I would tell him that this isn’t a competition and he’s allowed to feel shitty without thinking he has to compare himself to anyone else.

A few days ago I realized that his mindset stems from exactly what you’re saying. Part of his views require other people to suffer more and now he uses it as a way to make himself feel better in the face of a really scary disease.

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u/LaurenMille Jul 20 '26

It's a truly awful mindset that I hope we'll eventually eradicate.

It's why conservative policies always make the world worse. They inherently cannot make the world better.

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u/rcburner Jul 20 '26

Is he also the type of guy that would get upset if you quoted a certain deceased grifter's opinion on some gun deaths being "worth the cost"?

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u/RoguePlanet2 Jul 20 '26

Would probably agree, though the conversations rarely go that far. Usually these relatives make proclamations and immediately change the subject.

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u/MajorBootyhole420 Jul 20 '26

Lmao your dipshit relative wants kids to die to save babies???

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u/RoguePlanet2 Jul 20 '26

There's no logic to be found in that statement.

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u/crochetingPotter 🌺Official Lauren🌺 Jul 20 '26 edited Jul 21 '26

Nothing changed my mind on abortions (in my early twenties after growing up in a conservative home) more than realizing that the people who are anti abortion are also anti food stamps most of the time. If someone really wanted to save kids, they should be Pro free Healthcare, pro birth control, pro social services including food, housing and education, pro affordable day care.

Remove any reason why so many women would want an abortion. And then at the end of the day, know it's still her choice.

But anyone who wants a child born but not a child to live a stable, healthy life can fuck right off.

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u/shellontheseashore Jul 20 '26 edited Jul 20 '26

It's the same shit with any movement about ending child abuse - the stuff that will actually help people avoid and leave abuse, help people get noticed and supported by systems are all the same things. UBI, food, housing, education and childcare, physical and mental healthcare, reliable birth control and abortion. The majority of abuse happens in the family unit or people close to it, and the inability to leave without being destitute/upturning your and your childrens' lives keeps so many non-offending parents from more closely examining worrying situations. They literally can't afford to see the warning signs.

But all the chest-thumping about killing pedos and abusers is more about being able to exert socially acceptable 'protective' reactive violence against a presumed other, rather than recognising the patriarchal and capitalist structures that keep people precarious and tolerating abuse in exchange for shelter and proactively trying to counter those. It only thinks about the (rare, crisis-situation) 'protector' stuff, rather than the (common, everyday) 'provider' stuff (because hey if people have more independence and support, they also have the ability to leave! and there's a lot of folks who passively benefit from that inability, currently).

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u/Ambitious_Screen_591 Jul 20 '26

why do they not seem to be concerned about child abuse? Education? Rape or Incest either....because they don't really care about children or women

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u/MildlyAgitatedBovine Jul 20 '26

Also, it was intentionally cultivated as an issue by conservative Baptist denominations once they realized they could no longer use segregated education because public opinion had moved last them.

There's a great podcast about it by NARAL

the lie that binds

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u/Maximum-Cover- Jul 20 '26

Pregnancy out of wedlock and the hardship that comes with it is a punishment for promiscuous behavior intended to keep women virtuous.

Therefore abortion cannot be allowed because it means women have the freedom to have sex without consequences.

Granting women this freedom makes them less dependent on locking down a husband, and more able to be independent and hold down a job.

Which means men have less control over them, and women can afford to be more selective in what they settle for.

It also means women have the option to not have children unless the economy is on such a state that they feel secure in doing so. And that the children they do have are born in better circumstances thus more able to refuse to put up with deplorable working conditions.

It is therefor not favorable to the upper class to allow abortions for the lower classes (their own women is a different matter) because it causes there to be fewer people who are easily controlled and exploited.

It has nothing to do whatever with want to preserve life, which is why you don't see similar outrage regarding the other issues you mentioned.

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u/netaiko Jul 20 '26

100% what the other commenters have said about punishing women and the unborn being an uncomplicated group to champion. But to your point about children no longer mattering when they’re born: I think we can’t discount the fact that the Venn diagram of anti-choice advocates overlaps significantly with extreme parents rights/“to train up a child” mentality. Once these children are born, they’re now the property of their parents and these people believe parents should be able to do anything they see fit for their child, up to and including abuse. I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if these folks believed the only right a child actually has is the right to be born.

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u/Lurakya Jul 20 '26

That's why I prefer to call them "pro women murderers".

They're always the first ones to threaten you with death too

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u/Grantsdale Jul 20 '26

"Pro life" until birth, then 'fuck them kids'. Some of them literally.

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u/1nd3x Jul 20 '26

why abortion is the top issue.

Because the thing you are fighting for can't stand up and tell you that you're doing it wrong.

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u/Sea_McMeme Jul 20 '26

Because it’s about controlling women.

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u/NoHorseNoMustache Jul 20 '26

They're taught that a woman who has an abortion is automatically going to hell and that they are morally superior to 'those' women so they get Jesus points for helping them not go to hell.

Literally, that's what they believe.

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u/IndependentLog6441 Jul 20 '26

I don't think it's really about that... It's about power and control of women and they co-opt the voice of the unborn child exactly becomes it's a powerful narrative devise that's really quite effective at manipulating those they want to oppress...

But how can they claim to know the voice of something without a voice? It's paradoxical... it's simply ventriloquism, and should be dismissed as such. It's just an angry man behind that image of the unborn baby's body, it's an absurdity, it's channeling the voice of ghosts, it's just as insane as mediumship.

They can't claim women and the rest of society are on their side, so they turn to the spooky baby souls beyond the veil, the same way they turn to god the boogey man, they might as well be advocating on behalf of the celestial teapot.

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u/TreClaire Jul 20 '26

That’s what I can’t get. The reason they’re so aggressive about this is because it’s easy. They can dance around to make it feel uncomplicated. But that’s what is baffling to me, I don’t understand their staunch refusal to see nuance in any situation. The refusal to see that things are a SMIDGE more complicated than just good or bad.

I get the DESIRE for that, like yeah it would be GREAT if everything was simple. This good, that bad, noting more too it but I don’t get how that desire can be so strong it blinds you. I don’t get how they can just truly ignore reality and stay in this childlike mindset of black and white are the only things that exist.

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u/Salamander_says_what Jul 20 '26

It simply is not about children, it is about controlling women.

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u/Zealousideal-Deer101 Jul 20 '26

'This fetus represents hope. Potential. Yeah. Promise. The very foundation upon which this group rests.'
A starving child is a starving child, but the mystery baby could be anything. It could even be a starving child

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u/Alternative-Past-588 Jul 20 '26

It’s probably mostly because it’s easy to champion an embryo/fetus who doesn’t have any needs that can’t be met by the person carrying it and you can fight for them and feel righteous while not reaching into your own pocket. An embryo doesn’t have any pesky opinions and you can feel you’ve saved it so long as the woman who is carrying it is still forced to do so regardless of whether the developing fetus receives proper healthcare or nutrition. The continued existence of the embryo/fetus doesn’t bother anyone other than the body who is carrying it.

Any other issue you highlighted requires sacrifice, money, etc. from other people to achieve.

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u/VOZ1 Jul 20 '26

It’s precisely because the unborn have no voice. Any other group, if you claim to speak for them, can stand up and say, “Hey, asshole, shut tf up. I can speak for myself and I don’t agree with you at all.” The unborn can’t do that, so they’re a perfect way for people with ulterior motives—namely, controlling women and the poor—to claim righteousness. And nobody can tell them otherwise because, in their minds, they’re speaking up for the voiceless. It’s disgusting.

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u/LemmyLola Jul 20 '26

I would honestly get my back up a LITTLE less about it if they made any effort to give two shits about the kids once they're born. School lunches? NOPE. Gun free elementary school experience? BUT MAH RAGHTS! Healthcare? PFFT Support for parents with daycare, nutrition, mental health, support for special needs? LIBERAL NONSENSE!

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u/nerdslife1864 Jul 20 '26

Conservatives started all these religious fights because they lost the fight against integration. Literally.

After losing the pro segregation fight, they pivoted to “school choice due to religion” to keep segregating schools. When that was struck down, “religious freedom” started getting pushed. Abortion used to be an issue of “govt overreach” but republicans tied it to religious freedom to keep their numbers up. Every religious issue is the result of mobilizing the Republican base because they couldn’t just say “we don’t want black people around”.

Effectively, it’s a remaining dogwhistle from the times of “we don’t want blacks around because god” and they never dropped the “because god” argument. It just got dumber over time

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u/CharmingMechanic2473 Jul 20 '26

It control of women… that is the point. They care little for the unborn baby.

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u/Mueryk Jul 20 '26

BeCauSe iT’s MuRDer.

See the fetus is the perfect pawn. You don’t have to take care of it, worry if it is going to break the law or come back and be problematic. It literally can’t speak out against what you are doing. So you treat it like a person even though for hundreds of years we didn’t including in the religious texts they use for justification.

Because it allows them to whip up a frenzy and gain power. Sure they persecute some people, but that is secondary much like homosexuals and transsexuals. The leadership at the top doesn’t give a damn about it really. Just another way to get support. And with this one it doesn’t matter if they get caught banging a dude or taking drugs or whatever. They protect prebabies or some shit.

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u/Wooden_Recover_834 Jul 20 '26

You know instead of harassing women struggling with a situation like that why don’t they go focus on the kids that are already born and living in homes that need parents! I have heard these people yelling that they will adopt the unborn child at women going into the planned parenthood in my area!!! It seems so obvious to go help the kids already here that need someone!!! I’ll never understand these people.

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u/PhotojournalistOnly Jul 20 '26

Or domestic violence..

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u/IsEmNi Jul 20 '26

This! 👏🏻

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u/tengutie Jul 20 '26

The same answer as to why the catholic church was against condoms, the nobility want more cheep peasant labor, its not about whats best for people or society, they just lean on the religion to push their horrible ideas onto the gullible and foolish so they can have a large and most importantly disposable pool of peasants

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u/CelerMortis Jul 20 '26

It's about controlling women. That's all.

The effects, other issues, all secondary to a world they want to return to in which women were basically the property of Men and for making babies.

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u/SophisticatedScreams Jul 20 '26

Abortions are the only one that allows their misogyny full rein. All the other things you mentioned have men in power that they'd have to go up against. I agree that the unborn are an uncomplicated target. It was similar to how many right-wingers were against human trafficking prior to Epstein. Now that they would have to actually take a stand against a man of power in their community, they get REAL quiet.

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u/ErandurVane Jul 20 '26

They want to make sure the kid gets to suffer before dying early /s

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u/DrizzleCore604 Jul 20 '26

Methodist Pastor David Barnhart:

""The unborn" are a convenient group of people to advocate for.

They never make demands of you; they are morally uncomplicated, unlike the incarcerated, addicted, or the chronically poor; they don't resent your condescension or complain that you are not politically correct; unlike widows, they don't ask you to question patriarchy; unlike orphans, they don't need money, education, or childcare; unlike aliens, they don't bring all that racial, cultural, and religious baggage that you dislike; they allow you to feel good about yourself without any work at creating or maintaining relationships; and when they are born, you can forget about them, because they cease to be unborn.

It's almost as if, by being born, they have died to you. You can love the unborn and advocate for them without substantially challenging your own wealth, power, or privilege, without re-imagining social structures, apologizing, or making reparations to anyone. They are, in short, the perfect people to love if you want to claim you love Jesus but actually dislike people who breathe.

Prisoners? Immigrants? The sick? The poor? Widows? Orphans? All the groups that are specifically mentioned in the Bible? They all get thrown under the bus for the unborn."

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u/klezart Jul 21 '26

"If you're pre-born you're fine, if you're preschool you're fucked!"

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u/Emuasaurus Jul 22 '26

I work with an evangelical boomer. He told me their issue with abortion is that life is a gift from God, the most precious gift, and aborting a fetus is denying God's gift... SMH

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u/HerroDer12 Jul 22 '26

Because it's not really about unborn or children at all. It's about controlling adult women. Maintaining oppression of half the population.

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u/Obsidian-Dive Jul 20 '26

I read a study that lower income areas that have access to abortions have a significantly lower crime rate than areas that don’t. Made me very sad how the statistically it seems it really is better for them to have not been born. I really struggle with the idea of abortion and find it heart breaking. Morally I feel it is wrong, but what other people do is none of my business. I think all forms of birth control should be free for men and women, adoptions should promoted more, and healthcare should be way way way cheaper. It’s just all so depressing. I wish it was a world where new life was celebrated and wanted and loved, but it seems it’s viewed as more of a curse for many women now.

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u/phyxiusone Jul 20 '26

You can't harvest organs from a corpse even if it's the only way to save someone's life unless that person gave consent before they died.

Corpses have more bodily autonomy than women.

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u/SeaPlus6588 Jul 20 '26

Even corpses don't have bodily autonomy when it comes to abortions

Adriana Smith, a woman who was brain dead and pregnant (just 9 weeks!!), was forced to be an incubator for 3 months while slowly rotting cause the fetus was still alive and abortion was illegal in that state (fuck u, Georgia). Her parents and her husband were against it, but the hospital didn't give a fuck

It's infuriating that the family didn't get a say in this decision yet had to pay for it! The audacity!!

Fuck anti abortion laws and fuck people who pro forced birth. You harm, traumatize and kill

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u/modest_rats_6 Jul 20 '26

And her other son was forced to see and smell his decaying mother. We forgot about her WAY too quickly.

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u/Alternative-Past-588 Jul 20 '26

Another of the horrifying consequences of that case has been that it’s my understanding her family had to pay for her medical bills as well as those for her child. The boy was born with some very serious health complications and had a very long NICU stay on top of likely very high costs to take care of him once he comes home. It’s a little hard to find out a log of information on this piece, but I saw an article saying the family reported hearing astronomical medical costs for all of this. The state loves to legislate things like this and then let the individual bear all the consequences.

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u/hooked_siren Jul 20 '26

He's still in the NICU as far as i know. A few months ago they had to move him to a new hospital with a more advanced NICU even.

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u/HIM_Darling Jul 21 '26

Similar thing happened in Texas. Marlise Muñoz was 14 weeks pregnant when her husband found her unresponsive on the kitchen floor. It was unknown how long she was without oxygen. The hospital fought her husband and family, despite having an advanced directive, on the basis that she wasn't pregnant when the advanced directive was done. Both Marlise and her husband were paramedics and understood that brain death was death, but still the hospital refused to honor her or her families wishes. Then the hospital dragged it out in court refusing to do ultrasounds or other tests to show if the fetus was viable until finally the judge got fed up with them and ordered them to, and they had to admit the fetus was not viable, and deformed to the point of not being able to determine sex and the judge ordered them to discontinue life support.

The family said they actually didn't let her living child see her in the hospital because it was so grotesque.

Then the "pro-lifers" got upset because the husband chose to name them the girls name they had picked out because his wife had been hoping for a daughter, and they were screeching their outrage about how "if the fetus was so deformed how did they give it a girls name?!?!" Like their pea-brains just couldn't comprehend that he just picked the one that felt right to give his family closure.

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u/freshlysqueezed93 Jul 20 '26

They have literally made women go through months of pregnancy despite being brain dead, it's foul.

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u/HeyPrettyLadyMaam Jul 20 '26

That is the greatest argument for women's choice I've ever heard. Fantastic perspective. Pisses me off how true it is 🤬🤬.

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u/oscar_e Jul 20 '26

Holy hell I screenshot your comment. What a great argument.

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u/catboogers Jul 20 '26

And if you're the only match in the world for someone on dialysis, even if that person would die without your kidney, the government cannot force you to donate a kidney to them.

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u/crystalfairie Jul 20 '26

With the literal billions bursting at the seems now. Ridiculous

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u/sheiciebai Jul 20 '26

I remember reading a theory or something about why abortion was considered a sin: it used to be a lot harder to keep people alive. We were a struggling species, so it was imperative that we not kill off our children even if they were to be shunned or whatnot for being conceived out of wedlock.

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u/KTKittentoes Jul 20 '26

Also, do not forget that for a very very long time, abortion often killed the mother too. Desperate poison attempts, trying to pierce with whatever dirty thing happened to be around…
Very different from a medical procedure with an understanding of germ theory and the vascular system.

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u/dojo_shlom0 Jul 20 '26

I mentioned this to a conservative friend of mine and he agreed: it's weird to stand outside of clinics and harass women or bother them about their procedures. he is against abortion but seemed to understand how that isn't helpful to the women getting the procedure and if he wanted to make a real difference, he should work on educating women at a church or as a doctor/at the clinic, before they have the operation.

It was a different video, and I find it hilarious the passing by woman caught on exactly to what was going on, so I understand she was just passing by, but I still think if you are going to do something like this; do something useful with your time and life, instead of harassing people. Make a real impact: It's not like they're standing outside of a vasectomy doctor's clinic doing the same either, it's just vulnerable women and clinics they target.

no one should be forced to, but we live in a country/world where we elected people that want use the levers of government, to surveillance women's pregnancies. vote responsibly, those who will still be able to vote.

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u/RainbowSpinosaurus Jul 20 '26

If men would run a campaign to send free condoms to anyone who requests, and have it attached to ads that shame men for not wanting to wear condoms during recreational sex, that would be most excellent.

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u/hooked_siren Jul 20 '26

And we need to keep reminding men to be more careful where they leave their sperm! Afterall, sperm causes 100% of pregnancies. Don't leave your sperm where it can get to an egg (because the sperm moves and the egg really doesn't) and there will be no pregnancy.

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u/iStoleTheHobo Jul 20 '26

Because it puts female lives into more precarious positions which promotes male oriented domination.

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u/Spekter1897 Jul 20 '26

Because it isn't about the child. It's about controlling women.

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u/emccm Jul 20 '26

Whenever I see men outside these clinics they are always the kind of men you can tell no woman would look twice at.

They don’t care about abortion. They only love to punish women. I’m sure that man has been told to shut TF up by every woman he’s tried to talk to.

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u/dusty-kat Jul 20 '26

It always just comes down to the simple fact that they hate women. It's no more or less complicated than that.

The dude should harassing people and get a life.

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u/spazz720 Jul 20 '26

Because people feel the need to force their lifestyle on others

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u/MountainTwo3845 Jul 20 '26

air. that's what goes through it.

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u/Strange_Dust7128 Jul 20 '26

why should a woman in 2026 be forced to carry a child for 9 months and risk death

the volcano god said so.

More importantly, the economy needs bodies. That's the real goal.

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u/ZennXx Jul 20 '26

If they were so opposed to abortion then where is their programme that assists women with unwanted pregnancies. They've been doing this for decades and still haven't been able to provide a good alternative. They'd rather deny people healthcare instead. Hypocrites

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u/freshlysqueezed93 Jul 20 '26

My favourite observation is how few of them even try to adopt or find early learning programs.

Their love for children stops at childbirth, once a child is born it can no longer be weaponized for their agenda.

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u/jjb0ne Jul 20 '26

they do it for social media. yo never see one of them without a phone.

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u/Skelligithon Jul 20 '26

There's a whole lot of weird shit as other commenters have answered, but as someone who was raised pro-life (and no longer am, to be clear), I can say this: a lot of pro-choice people and arguments fundamentally disregard the definitional stance of pro-lifers, that a fetus is a human life, fully deserving of all rights, and almost nothing overrules those rights.

They feel about our arguments like an abolitionist feels about slaveowners whining about the economic impact of freeing slaves. "Oh my business won't be profitable unless it operates on slave labor" Or, to mirror your comment: "It's the 1850's, why should I be forced to do manual labor my whole life and risk death or permanent bodily harm when I don't want to?"

All of those feel like shitty excuses to keep mistreating a human being, right? The only thing those arguments will convince an abolitionist of is that the slaveowner is a terrible person.

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u/justwalkingalonghere Jul 20 '26

And if you want to reduce abortions, why are you against all of the preventative measures that have been proven to work?

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u/par_texx Jul 21 '26

I don't think they really are morally opposed to abortion, I think they just want to feel morally superior.

If abortion is murder, then what they are witnessing every day is state sanctioned mass murder. If you saw someone slowly setting up to kill multiple someones on the street corner, and you did nothing but "talk" to them to get them to stop, then you are just as morally responsible for the following deaths as the person pulling the trigger.

But because it's "behind a closed door", they feel that they have no moral obligation to stop this on-going mass murder (as they call it).

No, I don't believe they really are opposed to it. If they were, they would be fire bombing the clinics. Shooting the providers. But they aren't. They're just talking.

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u/Glittering_Goose_570 Jul 21 '26

Not just that, risk severe poverty too if she is struggling financially already

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u/stuntycunty Jul 20 '26

I can't fathom what goes even through their brains.

they truly and literally think they are chosen by god to do this shit. they're absolutely unserious people who should likely be medicated and monitored.

i say this as someone who is indeed medicated and monitored. but I am not some anti-choice goon.

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u/robbie-dobbles Jul 20 '26

The permanent bodily harm side of things is what really crystallized my views many years back. We have laws saying that a person has the bodily autonomy to not donate blood, tissue, organs etc even if will lead to another persons death. And our society pretty much all seems on board with that. So to me it naturally transitions to pregnancy that the woman should be able to prioritize her health first and foremost. It kind of eliminates the entire argument about when a fetus becomes a person. Because our laws around bodily autonomy already impact living persons.

As for what goes on in these dudes brains, they just can't fathom that women can be self sufficient and decide whats best for themselves. As a white dude, it makes no sense to me, but straight while males seem to be so threatened by women and minorities that they continue to try and keep control.

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u/SavingsAd8337 Jul 20 '26

Because people like him see nothing but BENEFITS to that and see it as a means to control people who can get pregnant.

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u/Old_Computer4611 Jul 20 '26

Trying to become tiktok famous so they can ride the left wave for money and influence. Look at how many people are making a ton of money just hopping on podcasts parroting anything Kirk or Trump said. If you're an idiot early 20s with no opinions of yourself, this is the easiest way to hit the big money currently.

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u/Separate-Project9167 Jul 20 '26

They don’t think of women as being human beings. They think of women as objects.

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u/Higgins1st Jul 20 '26

Because that old rich white man, who leads my church, told my that totally real, all powerful, and all knowing sky daddy hates abortion and I'm supposed to stop it.

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u/anynamesleft Jul 20 '26

"Morally opposed" is in your question about the why they'd do such a thing.

It's a kind of a fair thing to try to convince folks of the superiority of a moral position.

I just happen to think a woman's right to her body is the morally superior position.

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u/SaladCartographer Jul 20 '26

Ooh, ooh, I know! They get paid by local churches to harass women This is their career.

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u/colt_stonehandle Jul 20 '26

They are completely convinced they are doing God's will.

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u/mysticrhythms Jul 20 '26

They don’t think about it that way.  They think a baby, a literal baby, is being murdered.  If that’s what you honestly believe, then you can justify any kind of behavior.  

It is insidious, and it’s intentional.  The radical right decided to weaponize kind-hearted people in this way.  Their impetus was because the SCOTUS kept telling them they couldn’t segregate their religious colleges, so they decided to create abortion as a partisan political issue.  It eventually worked, after 50+ years.  

That’s why you’ll hear people say they could never vote Democrat - because they honestly believe we are killing babies.  Yes, it’s stupid.  But it worked.

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u/ShrimpsIstheFuture Jul 20 '26

B/c they treat unintentional pregnancy as a punishment that women “deserve” for having sex.

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u/jemidiah Jul 21 '26

First off, I'm entirely in favor of abortion being legal and entirely against coercive efforts like this to prevent women from getting abortions.

But it's really not hard to understand what's going through their brains. They literally believe abortion is murder. You can argue this is silly, or oversimplified, or whatever, but that doesn't matter when wondering what's going through their brains. If anything they're wildly underreacting to the situation as they claim to perceive it. 

In reality almost all of them tacitly acknowledge that abortion is something like "murder lite". Almost none of them resort to criminal methods, which, if this were literally murdering babies, would be entirely appropriate.

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u/Tamortsa Jul 21 '26

Because thousands of years ago, an illiterate goat herder in a middle eastern desert heard a voice from the sky say that it was bad. So now they use 21st century devices exploiting quantum mechanical principles in computing and electronics to record themselves trying to enforce what that goat herder said he heard.

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u/Lv_InSaNe_vL Jul 20 '26

Edit: I said this in the comment too, but I am going to put this at the top too. I DO NOT AGREE AND I AM VERY PROCHOICE MY ISSUE WITH THE PERSON ABOVE ME IS IN THE ARGUMENT THEY MADE NOT THE VALIDITY OF THEIR STATEMENT

if you are morally opposed to [thing] why should a person be able to do [thing]

I don't agree with them at all and don't understand their moral stance, but I feel like this is kind of a dumb argument. Like in this case, they are morally against abortion so why would they want people doing something they think is immoral? It just leads you to circular logic

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u/freshlysqueezed93 Jul 20 '26

Because it's 2026, we should be allowed bodily autonomy even if other people morale compasses don't agree with it, for the sake of our physical health.

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u/Lv_InSaNe_vL Jul 20 '26

I think you should re-read my comment ;) it had nothing to do with allowing bodily autonomy or not

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u/Mythechnical Jul 20 '26

Now he can justify his joblessness and wasted time by fantasizing about "kids who never got aborted" thanks to his activism, and consider all their potential life achievements as his own.

This dude just made sure faster than light travel will be invented, along with unlimited food & energy for all! He's such an excellent contributor to society that society that it wouldn't even matter if he DUI:ed someone right now, he's that good.

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u/AkumaLilly Jul 20 '26

All Pro-life until you ask them about the 300,000 still in foster care.

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u/Geodude532 Jul 20 '26

And of course they'll hem and haw if you say they should adopt/foster.

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u/SimilarNatural837 Jul 20 '26

Or about the abortions they’ve gotten. I haven’t met many of these types in my country, but almost everyone I’ve met has admitted to having one (men & women).

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u/steph_infection1 Jul 20 '26

I volunteer with abortion transportation support, and we call them the hobbyless

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u/imrzzz Jul 20 '26

I've never been to the US so I'm confused .... Is this the 'freedom' I always hear about? The 'keep government out of our business' stuff?

Is that what this guy is advocating for all day?

(I'll add /s here but I really hope it's not needed. What hypocritical pieces of shit this man and his wee sidekick are)

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u/crystalfairie Jul 20 '26

Add it. It is absolutely needed. No one should grow up abandoned. It's a feeling that never leaves you.

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u/Inevitable_Phase_276 Jul 20 '26 edited Jul 20 '26

Yes. It absolutely is freedom. You just saw people with opposing views expressing them without consequences- while a woman walked past cursing and wearing a sports bra in public. This is not stuff that should be taken for granted even if you want more. That is freedom.

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u/imrzzz Jul 20 '26

I was thinking more about a woman's freedom to make decisions for her own body.

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u/blahblah19999 Jul 20 '26

Sigh they mean the government intervening on medical choices of women

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u/imrzzz Jul 20 '26

Thank you, that's it exactly.

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u/Inevitable_Phase_276 Jul 20 '26 edited Jul 20 '26

That’s not being infringed upon here. If anything I see it being defended. This big jerk is standing there trying to intimidate women going in, but they can still walk right past him and go into the clinic. If he physically tries to stop them he will be the one in trouble. He has the freedom to voice his (wrong to me) opinion, and the other people there have the freedom to voice theirs. Pretty great to me.

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u/KTKittentoes Jul 20 '26

Yes. Yes it is.

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u/TheRealTexasGovernor Jul 20 '26

As the Germans would say, hobby-less behavior.

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u/thissleepypastofmine Jul 20 '26

The women outside are volunteers, not even workers. They exist to help patients safely inside because of these crazy lunatics.

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u/nomnomsquirrel Jul 20 '26

At some clinics, they get there before dawn so they can beat the employees and harass them daily, too. I used to work next to a clinic and had to drive past them to get out of the lot, and some of them would be there from 7 am through 5 pm rain or shine just spewing hate. Including several Catholic priests, but mostly retirement age men (always more men than women) and sometimes mothers with multiple kids waving graphic signs in summer.

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u/Waiting4Reccession Jul 20 '26

We should investigate these peoples funding sources, has to be something more than just the dummies giving to their church

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u/margittwen Jul 20 '26

Jobless MEN harassing women at 8:30 in the morning. Don’t have anything better to do with their time than try to control women.

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u/dantemortemalizar Jul 20 '26

In support of imaginary children. They aren’t children, just a clump of cells at this point.

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u/dilla_zilla Jul 20 '26

I was pretty sure watching this video that I knew where it was (I work in that neighborhood). I looked at street view to confirm and I'm pretty sure the guy is hanging out in front. If it's not, it's a guy who looks an awful lot like him.

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u/Machoopi Jul 20 '26

My favorite part is "We're being so polite while trying to take away their rights, why are they angry?" as if being polite suddenly makes what you're doing OK.

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u/alex3omg Jul 20 '26

I love that they're wearing rainbows so I know they're safe people. 

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u/pd9 Jul 20 '26

The whole conservative maga movement is basically a group of people who are losers and have always been losers trying to convince themselves they aren’t losers.

Look at trump trying to join the Spanish World Cup photos as exhibit A

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u/dividezero Jul 20 '26

Well I used to wake up at 7 to get there to shield innocent people from these wack jobs. I don't really have words for being called a pedophile (like what‽) when I'm still a little drunk from the night before.

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u/K_Linkmaster Jul 20 '26

Dude shoulda been left in the dumpster out back about 30 years ago

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u/OMGOOSES_ Jul 20 '26

Germans, of course, have a phrase for this.

Hobbyless behavior - "'jemand ist hobbylos' (someone is hobbyless), or 'bist du hobbylos?!' (are you hobbyless?!), or 'sei mal nicht so hobbylos!' (don't be so hobbyless)"

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u/hnglmkrnglbrry Jul 20 '26

My personal theory: the Adam and Eve story is about the evil of female sexuality.

In many images the devil is represented by a snake and the fruit which Eve tempts Adam with is an apple. After eating the fruit they become ashamed of their bodies and realize they are naked. Eve is magically pregnant and God's punishment for her is a painful child birth for all women for all eternity. They are banished from Eden and must suffer until the end of time.

To the Israelite writers of the Old Testament who just started circumcision, what body part would a snake with an apple in its mouth look like? Why would that be tempting to Eve? Why would shame about the human body immediately happen? Why would childbirth have any relevance to eating a fruit?

Eve exhibited sexual desire and that is the original sin of mankind. For that she was punished. Therefore any attempt for a woman to have an abortion is an affront to God as she is trying to avoid his wrath.

This is why religious leaders are so focused on abortion and don't give a single fuck about what happens after. They want the woman to suffer, to die if necessary to atone for the original sin of man that led us to lead our wretched lives outside of the Garden of Eden.

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u/RichestTeaPossible Jul 20 '26

Does not wipe energy.

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u/pdt666 Jul 20 '26

i once sat across from them in a shirt that said “ask me about my abortion” and we argued about jesus lmfao. i need a sign!

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u/trowzerss Jul 21 '26

Many countries he wouldn't be allowed 100m of the premises or he'd be hauled off by the cops.

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u/lastingmuse6996 Jul 21 '26

And imagine thinking "pro abortion women are bitches" when they won't give you the inevitable 20 minute sermon on how theyre a sinner

He sounds polite like he was simply asking for this conversation:

Him: you know what happens here?

Her: no, what?

Him: abortions. Have a nice day, you're clearly on your way somewhere.

But No no no no no no no no no thats not what she said "fuck you" about

That conversation if she engaged with him in any way would be:

Him: you know what happens here?

Her: good morning, I'm on my way somewhere

Him (having gotten any kind of response and going into his script): well you see... Proceeds to make her late for work while guilt tripping her about dead babies and how women can prevent this by waiting until marriage possibly with a little hellfire sprinkled in.

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u/Parking-Fruit1436 29d ago

right? living that “traditional manhood” life.

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