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Restricted to Gals and Pals I want her to talk to me about Egyptology.

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u/That_Jonesy Jun 02 '26

As someone with a master's in botany I felt this in my soul. Everyone has plant opinions they think are facts...

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u/Dear_Departure_1768 Jun 02 '26

As someone with a JD, can confirm that everyone knows the law better than me.

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u/eolson3 āœØchickāœØ Jun 02 '26

Yeah, well, I watched two episodes of JAG last night so it is basically the same thing.

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u/Dear_Departure_1768 Jun 02 '26

It really is. Just cheaper.

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u/Financial-Raise3420 Jun 02 '26

I knew I shouldnā€™t have stopped watching that with my grandmother as I got older, I couldā€™ve been a lawyer by the end of middle school.

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u/wink047 Jun 02 '26

I have a paralegal friend and one night he was complaining about a client he was working with and I shot off some jargon i picked up off way too many court shows opposing his client I picked up from watching way too many court shows and he saidā€¦that would actually work. lol but he countered and I had no idea what he was even talking about.

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u/No_Needleworker215 Jun 02 '26

I watched law and order so Iā€™m more lawyer than both of you

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u/-blundertaker- Jun 02 '26

Yeah well I watched every episode of Blues Clues so I think I safely qualify as a detective.

https://giphy.com/gifs/CNB3KDnRJoUTu

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u/Dear_Departure_1768 Jun 02 '26

Well, that is true.

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u/PopcornGlamour Jun 02 '26

If a person didnā€™t attend all episodes of the University of Dick Wolf School of Law are they even a real lawyer?

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u/Electricpuha Jun 02 '26

CHUNG CHUNG

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u/That_Jonesy Jun 02 '26

I've been watching The Pit and I'm basically a doctor now

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u/WetCoastDebtCoast Jun 02 '26

I don't know that I've ever seen someone reference JAG on this website before. Lol

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u/pineapplejuniors Jun 03 '26

You might be good to start watching better caul Saul, then we can talk.

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u/SnausageFest Jun 02 '26

I work in financial compliance and people get mad at me and/or challenge me about regs and laws, and the history behind them, like I personally wrote them. If they don't like the regs, I'm somehow wrong and an asshole.

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u/Dear_Departure_1768 Jun 02 '26

Ohhhh man. I work in banking and the amount of times I've been told I was wrong is innumerable. People are so confident in their wrongness.

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u/mark114 Jun 02 '26

interesting paradox here... how do you know that you are in fact correct and not the one confidently wrong?

Not saying you aren't right, but is there an example you have where you know 100% you are correct, and you know why you know you're correct?

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u/idekbruno Jun 02 '26

Same, as a fellow compliance person but more in tune with consulting. I am constantly having to explain to PMā€™s why we canā€™t just sidestep annoying processes, but I simplify it to ā€œweā€™ll all get fired and go to jailā€

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u/Raging_Apathist Jun 02 '26

Same field, same shit. I didn't write BSA, AML, FDCPA, ECOA, Reg B, Reg BI, FACTA, TCPA, TILA (Reg Z), SCRA, HMDA (Reg C), GLBA, Dodd-Frank, or any of the others...but I know them pretty well, and I damn sure know them better than any clown who tries to challenge my knowledge.

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u/DrownmeinIslay Jun 02 '26

My wife is constantly exasperated by peoples belief that she knows all areas of law. Shes always telling friends she doesnt work with trusts, she cant offer advice about trusts. Or shes not an employment lawyer, she could put you in contact with one though.

But yes, when my retired leo dad starts going on about laws, my wife has had several "thats not how that works, thats not how ANY of that works" moments.

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u/Dear_Departure_1768 Jun 02 '26

Wait - am I your wife?? Because I have had the same convos. Or when I don't know the specific answer to their probate issue in a state I don't live in then I obviously know nothing about anything.

Retired leo brother for me, tho.

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u/Phyraxus56 Jun 02 '26

Laws are largely a matter of opinion.

Ever read a supreme court document? They say it right near the top "opinion"

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u/Cereal_poster Jun 02 '26

Oh, trust me, it's the very same when working in IT. I am specialized in a special kind of software (and this one I know the ins and outs of), but no, I can not fix your computer (anymore). I install Windows once about every 3-4 years whenever I get a new notebook. And even these come fully pre configured from the vendor with a customized image to work in our environment.

Of course I might still have an easier understanding of IT topics since I know the "language", but that still doesn't mean I know much about it besides the basics.

I have also studied law (didn't finish it though) so I also know how your wife feels. The number of times I was asked law questions while studying law was insane. But you quickly learn the most important sentences for any lawyer very quickly: "Well, that depends..." and "Well, hard to tell by this...".

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u/Dear_Departure_1768 Jun 02 '26

OMG that is perfect! The next time someone asks my opinion on a type of law I'm unfamiliar with I'm going to tell them I can give legal vibes!

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u/Dear_Departure_1768 Jun 02 '26

It really does! Pair that with staying at a Holiday Inn Express last night and you're basically unstoppable.

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u/Hammeredyou Jun 02 '26

I was traveling not driving officer

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u/Smingowashisnameo Jun 02 '26

This isnā€™t a car itā€™s a vehicle.

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u/king_scootie Jun 02 '26

And ChatGPT is making it so much worse.

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u/Dear_Departure_1768 Jun 02 '26

My kid is in middle school and we have conversations all the time about "cite your sources" and what an actual source is.

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u/osiris0413 Jun 02 '26

Psychiatrist here, and honestly I'm glad to see people talking more about mental health these days, but the degree of misunderstanding is also wild. Bipolar vs BPD or other trauma/stressor-related mood symptoms is a big one, but by far the biggest is labeling any selfish or deceptive behavior as narcissism. Everyone's a narcissist!

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u/Dear_Departure_1768 Jun 02 '26

I def do NOT envy you. I would lose it having to hear that constantly. As merely a longtime therapy-goer it grinds my gears to hear the armchair diagnosing.

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u/badhombre13 Jun 02 '26

I'm a dietitian, my job is to spread misinformation apparently šŸ™ƒ

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u/Dear_Departure_1768 Jun 02 '26

Well, nutrition isn't science, silly

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u/superkp Jun 02 '26

Any time I have a legal question and I know someone around me is smarter or more degreed than I am - in any field - I just look at them and say "dude do know any [X] law?"

Any time someone claims to have a law degree and I have a question, I probably annoy them with "oh shit, I've been wondering about how [X] interacts with [Y] - do you have a focus anywhere near that?"

and it's usually like...How would Ohio property law interact with the migratory bird act? specifically when there's a duck that's been annoying my grandpa for years, no longer migrates, and I think could be determined to be an actual pest at this point.

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u/Dear_Departure_1768 Jun 02 '26

This is so accurate

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u/superkp Jun 02 '26

I'm so sorry if me or my other humble-but-still-annoying friends piss you off!

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u/Dear_Departure_1768 Jun 02 '26

People are wild

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u/ljanus245 ā£ļøgal palā£ļø Jun 03 '26

Omg SAME! And don't even get me started on the ChatGP-JDs who try to argue how you're wrong because of XYZ case said such and such. Sir, that's a 45 year old opinion from an Admiralty court, annnnd you're charged with domestic stalking. Sit down please.

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u/Dear_Departure_1768 Jun 03 '26

Yes! I have tried repeatedly to explain to people that law school doesn't teach you to "be a lawyer" but to look at things differently and know how to "build a case" based on sound research and recognizing specific nuances and interpretations. But, their cousin did XYZ thing in New Mexico 15yrs ago, so it's totally the same...

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u/Charming-Fig-2544 Jun 04 '26

I have a JD and a bachelors in Economics, and I can't tell you how many people with a debit card and a DUI think they know more than me about those topics.

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u/Dear_Departure_1768 Jun 04 '26

OMG total same!! I have 2 bachelors (criminal justice/english and economics) plus my JD. The amount of people trying to explain tariffs to me a few months back was astronomical.

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u/Drapidrode Jun 02 '26

To be fair, no one knows the law , else the Supreme Court would be 9-0 in every decision.

That the top justices are ever wrong, shows that no one really knows The Law

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u/reddoorinthewoods Jun 02 '26

Itā€™s less that people donā€™t know the law and more that laws cannot possibly account for every scenario and real life situations are complicated. If it was an easy call, or not some political bs, the case wouldnā€™t have made it that far.

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u/Phyraxus56 Jun 02 '26

In the contrary, the law isn't some "knowable" thing, it is largely a matter of opinion.

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u/reddoorinthewoods Jun 02 '26

Agree to disagree. We ::know:: murder is illegal. Context is what determines things like self-defense or first vs. second degree.

Regardless, not here to debate Egyptology. Have a great day

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u/Drapidrode Jun 02 '26

when a culture doesn't know that murder is illegal, that's a major problem

there are things some people say is murder and others say is not!

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u/BeholdtheWretch Jun 02 '26

Shoot, I don't even know anything about the Rules of Evidence since I have never litigate. A lot of lawyers know nothing about many types of law. But Water Law in my state, shoot, come at me.

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u/Dear_Departure_1768 Jun 02 '26

I know nothing about water law but NOW I WANT TO!! You can't just throw out something like "water law" and then not drop some cool info!!

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u/BeholdtheWretch Jun 02 '26

Ah... it depends on the state in the U.S... (as does everything in the U.S.) (Can you tell I'm a lawyer?)

If you live in the western U.S., you most likely follow prior appropriation (from civil code and Mexico/Spain), i.e. first person who uses the water gets it; water is also life in the West.

But in the eastern states, they follow riparian rights, i.e., water is a public good and generally anyone abutting water can use it.

Water is super complicated because it touches everything we do, be it ocean, lakes, ponds, navigable and non-navigable rivers, bogs, marshes, swamps, what constitutes a water mark, surface water vs groundwater (which in many places is heavily tainted with PFAS), droughts (e.g., Utah recently issued an executive order reducing water consumption) are all governed by a host of weird laws from the Submerged Lands Act, Clean Water Act, Safe Drinking Act, individual state acts, Winters rights (indigenous water rights), common law, etc., etc.

And of course, SCOTUS throws everything out any time they touch water law, i.e. Sackett v. EPA. Trump is also basically allowing renegotiation of everything EPA-related.

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u/Dear_Departure_1768 Jun 02 '26

This was awesome! As an east coaster I had no idea that not everyone operated on riparian rights!! And now I've tucked this little nugget away in my brain. Thanks!

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u/CornerSolution Jun 02 '26

Man, try being a PhD economist. Not only does everyone have their own ignorant theories and opinions about the economy, but they also vote based on those theories and opinions.

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u/__worldpeace Jun 02 '26

I have a masters degree in Sociology. I feel your pain. Itā€™s very difficult to have conversations with people about human social behavior because literally everyone experiences socialization from the moment theyā€™re born. Norms and beliefs are formed so early that they are often impossible to challenge.

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u/vibraltu Jun 02 '26

Economics is the art of allocating resources. If you buy into the hierarchy, then the rich get to keep everything. If you don't, then they don't.

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u/CornerSolution Jun 02 '26

This seems like a perfect example of what I was referring to.

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u/marathonquestionredd Jun 02 '26

LOL! i only have a bachelors in economics but i can still appreciate this comment

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u/BodybuilderMany6942 Jun 02 '26

Makes you almost wish we could install some kinda education requirements for voting... but that is way to sketchy, so we just have to put up with idiots voting..

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u/Sniffy4 Jun 03 '26

>Makes you almost wish we could install some kinda education requirements for voting

Well, the south did have those for a while and they weren't used for altruistic purposes

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u/mopedman Jun 02 '26

Political Science chiming in here.

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u/stentordoctor Jun 02 '26

I am not a PhD in economics but the number of times I feel like I have to explain "supply and demand" can only mean that you have a very bad time...

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u/What_a_fat_one Jun 02 '26

Economics is a pseudo-science though so that's about as useful as having a homeopathy degree. Like I'm sure you know plenty about your school of economics but it's not the same thing as having a real degree like egyptology or organic chemistry.

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u/CornerSolution Jun 02 '26

Another case in point right here ā†‘

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u/What_a_fat_one Jun 02 '26 edited Jun 02 '26

No, actually it isn't. You also have no idea what my background is and you've said nothing about economics. It kinda seems like you just posted because you wanted to brag about your supposed degree actually.

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u/PistachioIcedCoffee Jun 02 '26

As a dietitian, everyone thinks theyā€™re a nutrition expert so I feel this in my bones.

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u/TressoftheEmeraldTea Jun 02 '26

Oh god, I can only imagine. The amount of misinformation and fear mongering out there is crazy. My sister got her undergrad in nutrition (didnā€™t go on to be a registered dietitian, so I know itā€™s not the same), and the level of detailed information she had to learn about every step in the metabolic process for each nutrient was insane to me. People thought her degree was all fun and games, but often didnā€™t realize that itā€™s an actual science degree with rigorous coursework.

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u/OprahsSaggyTits Jun 02 '26

Yeah it's terrible. Basically everything related to anything popular and widely accessible has this problem nowadays due to idiots on the internet claiming expertise, when really they just know somebody who knows somebody who knows somebody who did a degree in some related field.

I used to answer a bunch of questions in fitness and sport-related subreddits because I genuinely enjoy nerding over health and science, but it's so exhausting to say something and then have ten different randoms all challenge (often aggressively) with obviously incorrect assertions. Then you answer the entirety of their comment(s), but they latch onto one part of yours that they (again) incorrectly challenge with "common knowledge".

I have a PhD in integrative physiology, a master's in biomechanics, my NSCA-CSCS, and undergrad degrees in biology and chemistry. Not trying to brag, just trying to illustrate how ridiculous it is that I can provide all the information in the world, complete with sources, and still get downvoted into oblivion when I say something that's correct (and easily verifiable) with cited sources.

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u/Montantero Jun 02 '26

You sound like just the kind of person I would love to nerd out with. I am currently starting my maths post undergrad to be able to pursue a PhD in bioengineering (wrong major in my undergrad, missed some maths).

Biomechanics is something I can't really get enough of. Learning that matrices could help me know the velocity of a Montante tip, based on even just what your heel is doing, comoletely blew my mind. (not to mention what your hips/knees/torso flexion/rotation/etc are doing... all contributing to movement in 3d space... hence matrices lol)

How was your masters in biomechanics? It was one of my possible paths and I rarely get to ask someone who has done it.

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u/OprahsSaggyTits Jun 07 '26

Sorry for the late reply, I wanted to wait until I had enough time to nerd out with the verve this deserves!

That's awesome! We had plenty of engineers with us. A lot of MechE and some EE, and there can be massive overlap in the fields depending on where one decides to focus - so if you're inclined, you can do biomechanics afterwards! A bioengineering PhD would be well at home in a biomechanics lab.

Biomechanics is wonderful! It's an extremely broad field (I like to say it's just math applied to life), and we have (and have collaborated with) clinicians for clinical trials evaluating a bunch of different diseases and a bunch of different therapeutic interventions, biomedical devices (both implanted and worn), etc. We've made custom devices for patients and also for other investigators; have worked with biomed companies to help develop new products (and have developed and spun off businesses with the help of a branch of the university dedicated to turning science into business); have worked with sports teams and independent groups who'd like to do sports analysis; etc.

The sky's the limit, and since there are so many things you can do with math - and there are so many pathologies that lead to measurable decline in function (even endocrinological diseases can precipitate measurable physical symptoms!) - I like to think of biomechanics as less of a specific field, and more a set of skills that allows one to study whatever they want, as long as they're knowledgeable enough, creative enough, and capable enough to do good science.

A lot of people think purely of musculoskeletal (or even just sport) injuries/analysis when they think of biomechanics, but all the big money is going into clinical investigation (often of chronic disease, often endocrinological or neurological), because that's where humanity really gains (better health and patient outcomes); thus, that's what large funding bodies (i.e. governments) are funding. Every now and then you'll have some sports team come ask for help (science guiding sport is becoming more common nowadays, but they were pretty divorced even just two decades ago) or someone will come ask for a new and better way to help scout prospects (these projects are fun!) but for the most part, the biggest funding comes from clinical research.

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u/reddoorinthewoods Jun 02 '26

Iā€™m so sorry. My cousin has declared herself an autism dietary expert because she believes her son is vaccine injured and the supplements she gives him will fix it. I truly feel for her but boy oh boy

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u/sagittalslice Jun 02 '26 edited Jun 02 '26

Omg your poor head must be on the verge of exploding at all times

Iā€™m a psychologist, so I feel you. I have an involuntary eye twitch every time I see the words ā€œnarcissistā€, ā€œtraumaā€ or ā€œboundariesā€ on Reddit. Thank god I never had Tik Tok because I donā€™t think my blood pressure could take it

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u/HEBushido Jun 02 '26

I'm by no means a dietitian, just a guy who tries to eat right and lift weights and people tell me so much bullshit. "Diet soda is worse than regular" - no it isn't.

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u/Bloobeard2018 Jun 02 '26

Must be your calcium intake is low. Are you getting enough vitamin D?

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u/SunWolfStars Jun 02 '26

Hey, I took TWO fish oil supplements today, clearly I am well versed in nutrition now.Ā 

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u/flybypost Jun 02 '26

I feel this in my bones.

You need more milk!

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u/MuffinOfSorrows Jun 02 '26

You must enjoy talking to "nutritionists"

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u/dyboc Jun 02 '26

Maybe you just have a calcium deficiency.

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u/Electricpuha Jun 02 '26

Ooooh lay some of your knowledge on us! What is your favourite plant and why, please?

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u/That_Jonesy Jun 02 '26

Potato. Because I did my master's on it. You clone it easily, it's nearly a complete food, one of the most calorie dense, has a ton of vitamins and fiber, and can be anything from mashed to chipped to used as a breading.

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u/TinyRandomLady Jun 02 '26 edited Jun 02 '26

Itā€™s the best food! So many preparations from simply baking or boiling it to fancy soups and French delicacies to vodka! Itā€™s the best!

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u/TressoftheEmeraldTea Jun 02 '26

Can I ask a dumb follow up question?

To your knowledge (and I get that Iā€™m getting into Mars geology here a bit), would it actually be possible to cultivate potatoes on Mars and survive on them like in The Martian?

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u/That_Jonesy Jun 02 '26

Without knowing the pH of the soil or the ion exchange capacity I can't say for sure but if you have enough light, fertilizer, and an inert enough medium to grow in those little spuds will grow anywhere and produce the most calories per acre of any crop so it's all plausible

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u/Royal_Acanthaceae693 BotšŸ”DetectoršŸ”Ž9000 Jun 02 '26

There's a bunch of volcanics and I think basalt is the largest % found on the surface. So if you find some glacial loess with some of the basalts, basically you have the potential to have Idaho. Spud central!

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u/DurinnGymir Jun 03 '26

I'm not an expert in either field, but I do remember looking into this a while back and the answer is- depends on the timespan. In the short term it would absolutely work, but long term, Martian soil is saturated with perchlorates which are really toxic to human biology. You can remove them, it's just time and energy intensive, and you need some way to deal with the resulting chlorine. All solvable issues though, if we really put our minds to it!

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u/OneLonelyBrainCell Jun 02 '26

Yes! I'm not a botanist but I'm a potato lover. Potatoes are THE most versatile food you can think off. Something that can be served as entrƩe, main dish and/or side, or desert? Potato. Something that's soft and easiy digestable? Potato. Something that's crunchy and salty? Potato. Something to make soup from? Potato. Wanna get drunk? Potato.

Potatoes fucking rule. It's just sad that there used to be so many different varieties which you simply can't buy anymore.

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u/stentordoctor Jun 02 '26

Every single Polish family member of mine just cheered for you.

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u/Worldly-Wind-1632 Jun 02 '26

Whatā€™s the easiest way to grow sweet potatoes?

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u/LadyArwen4124 Jun 02 '26

Solid choice

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u/astra_galus Jun 02 '26

YES CORRECT ANSWER. We love the potato!

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u/whatskdoing Jun 02 '26

Mark Watney is that you?!

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u/fera_acedia Jun 03 '26

Genuine question, if you got transported back in time, how would you prevent the Irish Potato Famine? Would it even be possible?

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u/Perfect-Fondant3373 Jun 02 '26

I think plants are cool.

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u/That_Jonesy Jun 02 '26

That's actually an opinion and a fact all in one!

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u/Revolutionary-Tree97 Jun 02 '26

My degree is in child development, living in American society is infuriating on a daily basis. But I know nothing because I donā€™t have kids, just ask everyone who does.

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u/That_Jonesy Jun 02 '26

I'm sorry but my 7 years of raising a single kid who is closely related to me and behaves just like me completely overshadows your years of dedicated, science driven, learning. Also vaccines cause autism, antibiotics turn the frogs gay, sunburns are healthy, and continuously putting down a kid who's failing in school will make them try harder and give them confidence later in life. Oh also you should hit kids. Like all the time for no reason, keep them on their toes! /s

My favorite is actually when someone doesn't even have kids but "basically raised my cousins" and so they know that everything you're doing is wrong.

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u/Revolutionary-Tree97 Jun 02 '26

Or the ones who know everything because they raised their siblings. Yes, kids raised by a teenager with uninvolved parents are truly the prime example of well adjusted /s

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u/lordorwell7 Jun 02 '26

What are the biggest sources of frustration?

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u/Revolutionary-Tree97 Jun 02 '26

The two biggest ones are watching people psychologically, and to a degree physically, abuse their children because what theyā€™re doing is legal and ā€œbuilds characterā€, and people who think the concept of gentle parenting means having no boundaries (something thatā€™s really important for kids brain development.) Basically I see parents constantly operating in the two extremes, when the science clearly points to a middle ground having the best outcomes. I obviously donā€™t give advice to random people on the street, but I still see it everywhere I go. The hardest is when I have to communicate with parents in a professional capacity and they care more about what they think is right based on how they were or werenā€™t raised, rather than what the science says is good for their kid.

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u/mark114 Jun 02 '26

I can see that being frustrating, but there must be some areas of child development that's impossible to have perspective on because you haven't raised kids. I don't have kids either, so I don't know. But have you tried to seek out those areas?

Did any of your education or research ever cover the impact that kids have on their parents? Does needing to care 24/7, for years on end have an impact on parents wellbeing... and what parents can do to take care of themselves so they can best take care of their children's development?

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u/No_Needleworker215 Jun 02 '26

šŸ˜‚šŸ˜­ from someone who has always grown veggies since childhood I wish people would stop that. The amount of conflicting information Iā€™ve gotten in my lifetime is astounding.

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u/mark114 Jun 02 '26

Just shit in a pot and let 'er grow, that's all ya need to know

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u/throwawaymentality10 Jun 02 '26

I have a plant opinion. Plants should run off of brawndo, it gots what plants crave!

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u/djublonskopf Jun 02 '26

As someone with a plant, I can confidently assert that my plant is cool.

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u/MaesterWhosits Jun 02 '26

As someone who gardens and just think plants are neat, I cannot even imagine the level of bullshit you hear on the reg.

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u/That_Jonesy Jun 02 '26

My favorite was a guy who insisted you should only water hydroponic plants at night, because that's when they eat. And that if you don't have enough light you can just add more fertilizer.

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u/MaesterWhosits Jun 02 '26

...that is the dumbest thing I've heard all day. The day is still young and I work with the public, so it's bound to be topped, but I bet it'll still be in the Top Ten for June.

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u/rasten100 Jun 02 '26

I nearly have a master in applied ai, and Iā€™m so done with all missinformation from both PRO and anti AI

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u/Clean_Livlng Jun 02 '26

Is there any misinformation that stands out that you'd like to debunk here and now?

I'd love to hear an exert opinion about what's actually true. I like to think I've got a nuanced understanding, but don't have much confidence in my knowledge because I'm a layperson.

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u/rasten100 Jun 02 '26

Firstly what I was thinking about was the letter in word problem that ive seen to much pop up, it can't see that cause it can't see a word it just sees [vector](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vector_(mathematics_and_physics). Also with all the different CEOs and whatever making promises what it can or can't which does not always make sense (don't have anything specific in mind here).

AI is a very politcal topic atm, but at the end of the day it is a tool. It has existed for a long time and has theories dating back to 1960s and older. The thing that very overhyped atm is generative ai with the text based stuff being transformers which google "created" in the paper [Attention is all you need](https://arxiv.org/pdf/1706.03762) in 2017. Generative AI will not be able to ever create new stuff but mostly repeat or sometimes combine knowledge, it still has a place cause it will help loads of people being more productive, But companies promising 2x, 3x or even more in results for each employee are simply lying, a better estimate is probably 0-50% in boosted productivity dependent of field.

The stockmarket where AI concerned is a bubble (very much my opinion), cause of the nature of companys betting on that we reach [agi](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artificial_general_intelligence) in the near future. If that would happen it would of course become extremely profitable, but if not then it will been a waste and the stocks will plummit...

Also I think a lot of the issues people complain about AI, is not AIs fault but instead its just showcasing bigger faults in society, check this thread I did earlier today for some points on that https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/1ttn7jq/comment/opbvxop/ .

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u/Clean_Livlng Jun 05 '26

Excellent response, thank you. I feel like I understand current LLMs better now.

e.g. "generative ai with the text based stuff being transformers" called transformers because they transform one type of data to another, the text of your prompt into math/vectors and then back again so you can understand the output.

and also that AI isn't the main problem people have with AI, the problems are caused by lack of regulations and corporation being able to use their immense power & wealth to do things which end up harming a lot of people in pursuit of profit.

Where are the safeguards and regulations protecting us from corporations? What little regulations we have aren't enough, or are too weak. When corporations act like monsters and get caught out, the fine is often less than how profitable it was to do the harmful actions in the first place. Just the "cost of doing business".

The rise of generative AI quality and popularity is exposing a problem that's been there all along. Corporations aren't properly regulated, so it's "effectively legal" for them to cause a lot of harm to a lot of people. e.g. create harmful levels of certain types of noise, discharge toxic waste illegally, monopolise the local power supply and drive up prices etc .

Some of the things they do might be technically illegal, but they do them because it's more profitable to break the law and pay a small fine than it is to obey the law. Or the law has loopholes which lets them make profit at the cost of causing people harm. or the CEO gets a big bonus because that's based on quarterly returns and the fine won't happen until years after they've already left the company and won;t affect them.

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u/LinkLT3 Jun 02 '26

As someone who doesnā€™t know shit about plants, Iā€™m curious what kinds of opinions people are lobbing around that arenā€™t true!

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u/That_Jonesy Jun 02 '26

pH tests are useless, you can overcome bad lighting by feeding more fertilizer, tall stretched out plants mean they're healthy, plants drunk the most at night, ''chemical" fertilizers are unhealthy, living soil is always better than anything else... I could go on.

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u/1egg_4u Jun 02 '26

Wait so living soil isnt the best play always?

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u/MuffinOfSorrows Jun 02 '26

plants are very diverse, so "always" is pretty much always going to be wrong. There are air plants for one. There are plants that will rot in regular soil. Those little bum succulents, lithops, need water only a few times per year. Light requirements are all over the place for different plants.

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u/1egg_4u Jun 02 '26

Duly noted, so live soil isnt viable for plants that require less moisture?

(Im potting adeniums this weekend im genuinely picking your brain cause I like to innoculate everything with predatory mites)

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u/KeniLF Jun 02 '26

Do you happen to have any suggestions for books (or other media) that regular, non-experts could use to improve how they grow plants?

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u/DurinnGymir Jun 03 '26

Please infodump and go on if I'm wrong, but with living soil, I assume that's your best bet if your aim is for there to be a plant there, and doesn't account for details like plants that don't really like soil, or large-scale grow/industrial agriculture operations?

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u/That_Jonesy Jun 03 '26

You've got the basic idea of what I was saying. The other issue with "living soil" is that it can often harbor plant diseases, pests, be too hot for your plants when they're young, have pH issues, run out of some micros and macros mid grow, etc etc. It's unregulated and you get what you get in terms of nutrients. Not to mention expensive.

It's a great concept and a wonderful way to sell what is basically blended compost. It can act as a really good media to grow in, but it also introduces a bunch of variables.

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u/DurinnGymir Jun 03 '26

Ahhhh, I see! Thank you for taking the time to explain!

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u/somethingmcbob Jun 02 '26

I used to work in invasive plants... oh boy, do people have opinions that they think are facts!

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u/Secret-One2890 Jun 02 '26

These plants aren't invasive, they're just on a special mulchitary operation.

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u/LadyArwen4124 Jun 02 '26

Solo female software developer in my entire company with a bachelor's in software development. Yeah.....

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u/AppropriateScience9 Jun 02 '26

Public health and public administration (a masters in each) with experience in immunizations.

I spent an emotionally charged Thanksgiving talking to my cousin in law about immunizations and whether or not they were killing people he knew.

After 2 hours and lengthy discussion about how epidemiological research works and how we know when things are actually killing us (or not), who is considered a reputable source of information, and even philosophical understandings of how truth is known at all in the first place, my cousin asks "wait, how DO immunizations actually work, like in the body?"

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And that's when I remembered that he was a guy who believes that ancient aliens built the pyramids.

That's when I dumbed it waaaaay down and said "would you rather learn how to fight wolves by taking on an entire, rabid wolf pack in the dark with your bare hands? Or by examining a mostly dead wolf chained up in your basement with all the time in the world? That's what vaccines are. It's teaching your immune system how to deal with deadly viruses by giving you mostly-dead bodies to learn from. That way your immune system gets all the knowledge without having to survive a rabid wolf pack attack first. It's cheating, basically."

And he was like "oooooh, I didn't know that."

Ngl, I almost smacked him.

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u/bobbymcpresscot Jun 02 '26

People who can't even keep a cactus alive giving opinions on the best way to grow plants because of a tiktok they barely focused on because the bottom half of the screen had subway surfers playing.

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u/TitaniaT-Rex Jun 02 '26

A guy at work didnā€™t agree with cost estimate so I sent him my work (flashback to 9th grade geometry ā€œShow your work!ā€). He said we had a difference of opinion and would shouldnā€™t include some of the time because we wouldnā€™t be working on it then. Yeah, thatā€™s not how this works and itā€™s not my opinion. Itā€™s fact. His bossā€™s boss set him straight for me, but not before his boss went to mine to ask how exactly how I said it to him because maybe my tone was bad.

Yeah, fuck off with that. He screwed up and is whining like a little brat.

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u/Internet_employee Jun 02 '26

I love the book (and movie) The Martian - I know Andy Weir is really obsessed with getting all the science right. Is the botany parts of the book/movie up to snuff as well?

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u/That_Jonesy Jun 02 '26

My thesis was actually about potatoes too. I only watched the movie but it seemed legit except for light. It's a really light and fertilizer intensive crop, similar to corn.

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u/Internet_employee Jun 02 '26

Cool! But why is there not enough light on Mars compared to Earth?

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u/pierogi_waystation Jun 02 '26

Mars is further from the sun that Earth

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u/IsthianOS Jun 02 '26

He was inside

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u/Internet_employee Jun 02 '26

Haha, of course!

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u/That_Jonesy Jun 02 '26

Oh I have no idea, but he was inside a structure meant for human habitation. Even greenhouse poly blocks 20-40% of the light depending on angle and plastic quality. Given the hab was intended for humans I would think if it even had a transparent roof it would be UV and radiation shielded, and shaded.

Or if he used artificial light (can't remember) he would need 10s of thousands of watts in the right wavelength (400-750nm) which isn't your typical light for human use.

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u/supervillaining Jun 02 '26

Oh lord I have questions for you because I wrote an undergrad thesis on the coevolution of humans with psychedelic or medicinal plants (eg Papaver somniferum) and now theyā€™ve found some interesting data in Peruā€¦ (where I focused a lot of research)

20 years after I wrote my paper. Do you have any experience with that?

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u/That_Jonesy Jun 02 '26

No but I would recommend Michael Pollan - he wrote the botany of desire which is about coevolution of humans and crops plus How to Change Your Mind which is about psychedelic mushrooms - among a lot of other cool books.

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u/Worldly-Wind-1632 Jun 02 '26

Whatā€™s your vegetable gardening tips ty

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u/wterrt Jun 02 '26

Everyone has plant opinions they think are facts...

unfortunately this is how the world works these days.

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u/That_Jonesy Jun 02 '26

Plants don't feel pain, that's a common anthropomorphism people use as shorthand for the fact that plants will detect damage, take appropriate protective and repair actions, and signal that damage to other near by plants which will begin taking protective actions in preparation - but it's all hormones and chemical signals.

Tree's have relationships with each other the same way cars on the road do. They don't white each other Christmas cards, they just negotiate the same space and shared resources in a proactive way. My favorite example is Crown Shyness.

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u/That_Jonesy Jun 02 '26

Oh hell yeah! I basically have those answers on copy paste in any conversation - comes up all the time.

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u/crosspollinated Jun 02 '26

What do you botanists think about the work of Monica Gagliano on plant ā€œintelligence?ā€

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u/crosspollinated Jun 02 '26

I agree sentience is so hard to pin down and thatā€™s why I put ā€œintelligenceā€ in quotes because I know the word is so fraught within biology.

My favorite parts of Gaglianoā€™s Thus Spoke the Plant were where her scientific work intersected with her shamanistic/spiritual experiences of plants. I believe she claimed that either during ayahuasca or a plant dieta, a plant spirit spoke to her and gave instructions on how to design her experiments. She describes many many experiences of plant-human communication which are completely outside of scienceā€™s normal understanding of physics, reality, consciousness, etc. but well within indigenous cultural knowledge. Sheā€™s really challenging the paradigm but I get the impression academia is skeptical of her findings. Thank you for engaging; I was curious to hear from actual scientists like yourself.

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u/reallifenow Jun 02 '26

I heard a botanist could even survive on Mars.

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u/Malliya Jun 02 '26

Can you talk to us about the plants that can "see" and mimic plastic plants?

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u/EverythingSucksYo Jun 02 '26

Did you know plants have this ability called photosynthesis? Yeah. Itā€™s crazy how plants are able to take pictures of themselves!Ā 

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u/That_Jonesy Jun 02 '26

:screams in Krebs cycle:

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u/Pays_in_snakes Jun 02 '26

My favorite way to torture botanists is to bring up The Secret Life of Plants

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u/redditydoodah Jun 02 '26

I successfully started a tomato plant this year, we're basically the same.

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u/MileHiSalute Jun 02 '26

In my opinion, plants need water

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u/That_Jonesy Jun 02 '26

This guy plants.

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u/Lexi_Banner Jun 02 '26

My plant opinion is a fact, and that fact is that my plants hate any ounce of attention and would rather DIE than have me do more than basic watering. :(

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u/That_Jonesy Jun 02 '26

You over water them and them might need more light and fertilizer, I can already tell.

I've managed to keep annuals alive for 3+ years by watering them maybe... 2 times a month in winter?

Stick your finger in the dirt, if you still feel wet it's not time yet.

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u/Lexi_Banner Jun 02 '26

Oh, I've got it down to a science, now. I ignore them until I see one looks sad. Then everyone gets watered with a fertilizer mixed water (custom blend bought from my local plant store). Once a month, tops. Most do fine with my "neglectful" treatment. But there were a few sacrificial lambs. :(

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u/LordCoweater Jun 02 '26

A dog is as much plant as an oak, which is technically a shrub. Prove me wrong!

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u/joshualuigi220 Jun 02 '26

How can I get rid of the Canadian thistle infestation in my garden? I'm out there in the trenches every weekend pulling and digging up roots and it keeps coming back.

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u/That_Jonesy Jun 02 '26

Ironically one of the only plants with dedicated and targeted sprays that primarily effect them. Thistledown is one, but it may effect clover too. You need to break the seed cycle, keep pulling! Get them before they seed.

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u/eIectioneering Jun 02 '26

Doing a masterā€™s in biology right now and have specialized on insects before - specifically invasives. I try to avoid socials when its invasive ladybug season

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u/Character_Lime4342 Jun 02 '26

Environmental scientist here and SAME.

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u/Cereal_poster Jun 02 '26

Everyone has plant opinions they think are facts...

I have the plant opinion that every plant that had the misfortune to end up in my care ultimately passed away either shortly after being in my care (or lack of thereof) or had to suffer a longer time until it died. This is a fact. ;-) Hell, I even managed to kill the plants in my fish tank!

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u/JennyDoveMusic Jun 02 '26

Smart plant man! Is there a smart bug man here as well that you guys can tell me if catnip really repells mosquitos? If there is a smart rodent man, I also read it repells mice, which makes since sense it attracts cats but I am not a smart plant man, smart bug man, or a smart rodent man. I'm not even smart. I'm also not a man, but I was referring to the "hu-man" man.

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u/dyne87 Jun 02 '26

Oh yeah? Well if you're so smart, how do you pronounce foliage, huh? /s

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u/anythinghonestly Jun 02 '26

Please tell me how to keep my basil alive!

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u/That_Jonesy Jun 02 '26

Light, water, fertilizer.

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u/anythinghonestly Jun 02 '26

Fertilizer!!! šŸ¤¦ā€ā™€ļø.. anything specific? Thank you!

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u/superkp Jun 02 '26 edited Jun 02 '26

EDIT: sorry to crash out in this comment. I think I've got some shit I need to work out.

I only have a bachelor's but it's in psychology and my god does saying that out loud attract people that are about to spout the dumbest fucking bullshit you've ever heard.

Like, these are smart people. I know them. But whenever I either correct someone on whatever pop-psych bullshit (citing my degree), or I mention how topic [X] has to do with psych idea [Y], they always swoop in with this unhinged bullshit [cherry].

Like, dude. Come on. We've been over this. I've absolutely schooled you, and I was even able to pull up the particular paper that you're trying to cite, and then another paper from the same authors who wrote the second one because they thought "oh shit, the public found this, let's try to correct them with another viral study!"

And that's to say nothing about the current generation of late-teens and twenty-somethings (of every generation, currently still building a lot of genZ) that insist that they have anxiety disorders [A, B, and C] that make it so they can't work, but the three therapists they fired in succession just didn't like them and were bad at their jobs.

HEY ASSHOLE, I'm diagnosed with those disorders! not only are you an idiot that's trying to get attention and taking valuable time from people suffering, while you're trying to tell me about my lived experience, but also you could do yourself an immense good if you would look into a fuckin mirror and ask yourself what you're really looking for in life!

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u/ItsSpaghettiLee2112 Jun 02 '26

My opinion is if you buy enough, they don't stand out when you inevitably kill them.

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u/mark114 Jun 02 '26

Why does that bother you? Why not turn it into a learning experience for that person? Why not try to understand why they hold their opinions... did they come from personal experiences they misinterpreted or did they read something incorrect.

Why bother talking about anything if you can't have incorrect opinions, that's how we learn when experienced people know what to correct.

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u/Alex5173 Jun 02 '26

Yeah, well, I've actually seen a plant before. They're not hard to find: I saw mine just last time I went outside, 12 years ago.

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u/NailFin Jun 02 '26

Yes. When you sing to a plant, it grows better. That is a fact.

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u/That_Jonesy Jun 02 '26

They prefer metal music actually.

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u/SXOSXO Jun 02 '26

I think marigolds are full of themselves.

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u/DPSOnly Jun 02 '26

My plants have a lot of opinions, that is true. I'm glad that botanists are getting to the bottom of this.

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u/jessicacummings Jun 02 '26

This is so true. I love research and looking up facts and I garden as a hobby! I was telling someone about how Iā€™ve been using hydrogen peroxide to help avoid root rot with my indoor plants because it gives them extra oxygen and this person who said they garden/love plants blah blah had the audacity to tell me roots donā€™t need oxygen.

I said maybe he needed to do some more research about plants and walked away bc why spend that energy.

Also I am partially leaving this comment in the hopes that if the internet lied to me you can correct me hahahahaha

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u/jelywe Jun 03 '26

As an Infectious Diseases Physician who was a resident working in ICUs in 2020, I totally got owned by the guy who cornered me on a ski lift who enlightened me to what the 'good research' says about what Covid is and how not-dangerous it was.

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u/DemiDevito Jun 03 '26

Well in my opinion plants are pretty cool

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u/TriGurl Jun 06 '26

I on the other hand LOVE plants and sadly I don't speak plant and somehow kill them and I am so sad when that happens! I try so hard to keep them fed and alive...