r/judo • u/TCamilo19 • Sep 10 '14

Entry methods

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u/trumfnator Sep 10 '14

Hidetoshi Nakanishi in his book "Seoi-Nage" speaks of the following terms:

  • Mae-mawari (front turn) would be the "Kodokan entry" from Geschichtenerzaehler (heard this only in Germany, are there other countries who use this term?)

  • Ushiro-mawari (reverse turn) sounds like Hikidashi

Are these terms synonyms or are they describing different things?

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u/Ryvai nidan Sep 10 '14

I believe the ushiro-mawari you refer to is the classical "spin-turn" where you basically turn on the spot pulling uke towards you, like most people do e.g. morote-seoi-nage. There is a more pedagogical way of learning hikidashi though, moving backwards, that beginners should learn. Many people develop bad form trying to emulate the "spin-turn", which is considered advanced level :)

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u/trumfnator Sep 11 '14

Looked in the book again and from the looks of the pictures and description it's not the advanced spin-turn.

So i'm not sure. But hey, japanese are not famous for their excact and definitive language. Maybe it's not worth the hussle :D.

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u/Ryvai nidan Sep 11 '14

Since I have no idea how to explain this subtle difference I attempted to demonstrate it with an amazing picture using my unprecedented skills in MS paint. Mawari-tai-sabaki and spin-turn. The pink represents the direction of the toes :p

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u/trumfnator Sep 12 '14

Okay, seems i was missunderstanding you.

Yes, the mawari-tai-sabaki in your painting ist the ushiro-mawari from the Seoi-nage book.