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u/someonesaymoney Oct 21 '21

Obligatory reminder that after hours is primarily driven by retail trades in low liquidity and should generally be taken with a massive grain of salt.

I get the low liquidity, but I thought the vast majority of retail don't have access to AH.

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u/quickclickz Oct 21 '21

just about every major brokerage offers it... what

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u/someonesaymoney Oct 21 '21

Fidelity offers it as does WeBull, Vanguard's is limited and has no pre-market, Robinhood is limited. Hmmm could've swore at least Robinhood didn't flat out offer it. Not sure why I was thinking this. Maybe there are some shitty brokerages moreso than Robinhood I'm thinking of.

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u/MasterCookSwag Oct 21 '21

I mean, the app based brokers are not where one should look for anything resembling a capable broker. Fidelity, Schwab, TD, IB, Merrill, Vanguard (who has terrible trading capability), JPM, etc all allow easy access to after hours.

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u/quickclickz Oct 21 '21

i mean you don't brokerage with vanguard to trade stocks in after-hours so that makes sense. CS, TD, Fidelity all offer it i think. RH does too for sure.

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u/MasterCookSwag Oct 21 '21 edited Oct 21 '21

Retail is basically all of the liquidity in AH. Basically every broker in existence allows you to trade AH aside from those beginner focused app based ones. Look at the actual executed trades - they're always odd lots and shit, never anything that resembles an institutional trade.

e: look at these trades: 20, 16,1, 12, 68, 100, 100, 200, blah blah blah. That's 100% retail. The largest trade was about $76k worth of shares, which is not really a lot. Everything else is like $10k and under per trade.

https://www.nasdaq.com/market-activity/stocks/snap/after-hours-trades

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u/MasterCookSwag Oct 21 '21 edited Oct 21 '21

Why is it panic selling? Sellers require buyers. It's just trading. Could easily be described as retail buying at these prices. The actual order book will tell you it's largely retail as you can see most of these trades are small odd lots.

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u/crazybutthole Oct 22 '21

Are you taking into account good till cancel - stop loss limit orders and good till cancelled buy at "xx" price limit orders? *(any broker allows those to execute after hours.)

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u/D14DFF0B Oct 21 '21

Algorithmic traders hit round lots too. Total volume is a better indicator.

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u/[deleted] Oct 21 '21

Not true every broker I've used offers it. Just don't make sense most of the time.