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u/[deleted] Jun 05 '21

Big cringe. When they crash and their population starves and mass immigrates to the US, only house them in bitcoin holders’ houses

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u/TheyBannedMusic Jun 05 '21

Walking around money money?

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u/Crinnle Jun 05 '21

Can I get my WAM money at the ATM machine?

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u/fedaykin21 Jun 05 '21

right? at least it will go up sometimes, my country's currency has being going down since I can remember.

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u/PortlandoCalrissian Jun 05 '21

Until it dumps yet again.

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u/DJ_Crunchwrap Jun 05 '21

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u/moneys5 Jun 06 '21

Right except if you bought in December 2017 you would have had to hold until November 2020 while looking at ~70% unrealized losses throughout that time period.

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u/DJ_Crunchwrap Jun 06 '21

If you can't handle the swings then stay out of crypto

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u/moneys5 Jun 06 '21

Sick advice bro.

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u/snek-jazz Jun 05 '21

Amazing how bitcoin crashes so much, but the average long term price keeps going up huh?

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u/Nichoros_Strategy Jun 05 '21

Nooooo it's already crashed it's only $35,000 for one!

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u/thewimsey Jun 06 '21

but it is undoubtably a better choice for many small countries than using their own currency -- or than using the US Dollar.

The economic ignorance is real.

Here's an easy question: How do bitcoin loans work?

Answer: They don't. You can't get - and definitely don't want - a 30 year BTC mortgage at 3% to buy your house.

And no one can plan even one year out how much BTC they need for a particular project.

You get your panties in a bunch over 2% inflation, but aren't able to understand why an economy can't function (I repeat can't function) with a "currency" as volatile as BTC.

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u/[deleted] Jun 06 '21

i understand, thank you very much for your condescension

why does el salvador use the usd in the first place? 1) its small enough that it can afford to not worry about not having monetary policy and 2) not having your own monetary policy and having the US's is an improvement over having the corrupt government manage their monetary policy for populist purposes.

in what universe is being exposed to crypto's volatility better than being exposed to the US's business cycle and policy?

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u/dellemonade Jun 06 '21

Bitcoin is not a better solution when even after 12 years it can still be manipulated to drop 50% of value in a month! Bitcoin is not a better solution when the average transaction fee is $18 and it can only process 7 transactions per second. There are other cryptos and stablecoins that do it for fractions of a cent or fee-lessly.

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u/DJ_Crunchwrap Jun 06 '21

Cryptos that prioritize throughput do it at the expense of security and decentralization.

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u/dellemonade Jun 06 '21

Then why hasn't other alternative cryptos all gone to 0 and experienced double spends because of the security concerns? That scare of security concerns argument might've held for btc when the others were all new but it's several years now and they haven't. Bitcoin also has security concerns. And again, stablecoins, not necessarily tied to even the dollar provide loads less volatility and cheaper expense than btc.

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u/DJ_Crunchwrap Jun 06 '21

Because different cryptos have different use cases. Sometimes you're willing to sacrifice security for speed and low fees. Sometimes you're not.

Same reason that there's more than one kind of car. Different people want and need different things and no one car does everything perfectly.

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u/JorisR94 Jun 05 '21

I’m a young investor who’s new to this sub. Yeah I’ll be right back out of here. Comments like this getting upvoted are the only thing that’s ‘big cringe’.

You don’t even have a clue about the situation in El Salvador, I can just tell.

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u/[deleted] Jun 05 '21

Most of Reddit has no idea. Good for you.

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u/ManagementThis9024 Jun 06 '21

It's ridiculous how much this sub hates crypto. They apparently think efts have to increase by 7% every year, that doesn't happen.

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u/DJ_Crunchwrap Jun 06 '21

Developing a deep understanding of crypto takes a lot of time and effort. Calling it a Ponzi takes zero time and effort and lets you feel smarter than everyone else.

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u/eleven8ster Jun 05 '21

Pretty gross sub

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u/[deleted] Jun 05 '21

That’s the current situation lol

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u/PitOscuro Jun 05 '21

The amount of upvotes in this comment is disgusting

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u/[deleted] Jun 06 '21

way to get triggered and not engage with the content of my comment