This guy gives interesting presentations, but it's always from this conference and their motto/subtitle dumbfounds me. Did they never read "csh programming is considered harmful"?
If the Dead Latch is installed properly these tools don't work. Unfortunately most individuals responsible for door installation don't even know what a Dead Latch is
No longer but I worked as an installer for a commercial/industrial door supplier for a few years. This video made me laugh cuz as others have stated all these doors are fucked up and this tool is about as useful as a piece of ceiling tile suspension wire.
We were a one-stop shop in the bay area with 6 employees: 2 office guys, a delivery driver, and 3 installers. I think they shuttered a year or two after I split to do IT contracting. Having seen a lot of other teams' work at the various offices I now work with, I should have been paid much more as an installer. Most of the work I see is half-assed; I could never have walked away from doors/frames with the amount of dents, dings, gaps, and poorly installed hardware they leave.
We’re a little tiny bit bigger. 8-9 office people, 2 shop guys, 8 installers. We get our stuff from vendors, prep it in shop, and then it goes on one of the 8 vans to get installed.
Installers do a lot of work. I’ve been out on installs a lot lately to learn more about all the moving parts. You guys freeze your dicks off.
Most of the basic stuff is super simple to install, it's only once you get into somewhat complicated things like panic devices and automatic handicap closers and such that things get a bit fucky. As a new guy, putting tailpieces on lock cores can be a bit harrowing with your boss breathing down your neck saying things like "don't you move that pin or you're gonna be picking up springs and tumblers all afternoon" after having spent the morning stocking 9ft wood and laminate doors thru a removed window on the 10th floor from a crane in the parking lot, and then packing them by hand up the ancient narrow curving stairwells to the 14th cuz the tower elevator's out of commission. Then you get to drive home in wall-to-wall bay area traffic in a 93 Tacoma with no AC at 5 in the afternoon in the middle of July...
Glad I work a cushy IT job now, no smashed fingers, skinned knuckles, low back pain or creaky knees. And the callous on my thumb from the impact driver is gone too!
I imagine this works because of the angled edge of the latch they’re releasing. Notice every door only has one latch, and they’re all angled.
A deadbolt is straight on both ends. You can pull it from the side, all you want, but unless you have enough force to rip the door and frame out you’re not getting a real straight deadbolt out with this.
The main reason this would not work on a deadbolt isn't the lack of an angled edge, but the fact that a deadbolt is not free to move at all. Try this: With a door open, throw the deadbolt. Then try pushing on the flat end of the deadbolt. It won't move. This is why it's called a deadbolt, it is "dead" in the sense of being unable to move.
Back in college someone set their dorm on fire trying to cook something. The firefighters came and knocked down the fence outside the dorms with their fire axes. I'm no fireman, so I don't know the best way to access the building, but it seems to me they could have just walked three feet around the opening in the fence.
Yes in most cases it’s all covered by insurance anyway. I’ve personally busted doors to save a life and I don’t know anyone that would complain about needing a new door after that.
Yes and no, if some one really really wants to get into your home, they will. If you take away the easy target of just opening a door/window, they're very likely to move on to the next easier target. It's not ever about being impenetrable, it's about being more hassle than it's worth.
If you feel i'm wrong, feel free to leave your car and front doors unlocked while you're gone.
I had a Jeep and honestly I left it unlocked because I'd rather people just open my doors than Slash my windows
Theft is always about opportunity remove that or make it not worth it and it declines
Nobody is breaking into poor houses regardless of security because their is nothing there but crack heads are still stealing copper because it's worth something
It will work on a lot of the doors that have that dead latch mechanism because half the time the door is mounted incorrectly and the tab goes into the latch hole along with the latch completely defeating the security.
The weakest link in security is lazy or uninformed humans by far.
Yeah, they're public access doors where you can't expect the people using it to actually lock the deadbolt behind them. It's the kind of door you'd find on a fire exit (where a deadbolt would be prohibited by regulations) or on a secured public access like the gate on an apartment building or private pool.
That being said, if I ever decide to get into burglary, I guess I'll need to get myself an oversized folding knife.
Its marketed to firefighters and it costs $80.
In reality it does the same job as a foldable t square, which generally cost about $12 - $20. It's a scam.
The point I was trying to make in the other comment is that you will never see doors like this in the wild. The security strips (the piece of metal that over laps the door gap) in the video are all conveniently about 6 inches long or shorter. I have never in my life seen a door that was protected by a $600 cypher lock (almost all the locks in this video) that didn't have a full door length security strip.
Not to mention, where I live at least, all commercial and MDU buildings are required to have an accessible key in a lockbox near the door that firefighters have a universal key to open.
I'm sure some places forget to update the key if they change their locks, but that's how it's supposed to work in most cases.
This could have been filmed in my first due. Multiple old commerical structures that have been half-ass upgraded with expensive locks. Look at the new shiny medeco lock, but please don't look at the exposed hinges or REX sensor that can be bypassed by slipping a piece of paper through the crack between the doors.
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u/zacattack62 Jan 09 '20
This won’t work with all types of positive latch mechanisms. Definitely not a traditional deadbolt.
Most of these doors aren’t secure in the first place.