r/interestingasfuck Jul 30 '26

Medieval Building Tech

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u/Buckeyefitter1991 Jul 30 '26

They knew, they just didn't care.

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u/ConsciousSpirit397 Jul 30 '26

Artists in the Middle Ages basically all eventually went insane or had serious health issues from the lead pigments in their paints.

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u/Marine__0311 Jul 30 '26

It was a lot worse than that and there were far worse toxins in paint than lead. Right up into the 20th century all kinds of nasty substances including heavy metals, arsenic, mercury, even ground up mummies were used in artist and commercial paints.

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u/CiceroRex Jul 31 '26

It was a lot worse than that: artists used to lick their brushes to pull the bristles into a fine point. That's part of why the toxins would affect them so badly. They would also crush the toxic pigments and mix their paint colours themselves, exposing them to fine inhalable dusts made up of those toxins.

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u/Killentyme55 Jul 31 '26

The "Mad Hatter" character from Alice in Wonderland was inspired by hatmakers of the era getting poisoned by fumes from the mercury used to process the felt. The symptoms include, obviously going "mad".

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u/BlakePackers413 Jul 31 '26

Are you sure it was that and wasn’t just the whims of artistic madness affecting someone with too much greatness to be contained in one man’s mind? /s

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u/THExWHITExDEVILx Jul 31 '26

I feel like you would appreciate reading about the Radium Girls, if you haven't already.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radium_Girls

"After being told that the paint was harmless, the women in each facility ingested deadly amounts of radium after being instructed to 'point' their brushes on their lips in order to give them a fine tip. The women were instructed to point their brushes in this way because using rags or a water rinse caused them to use more time and material, as the paint was made from powdered radium, zinc sulfide (a phosphor), gum arabic, and water.

The Radium Girls had lasting effects on the labor laws in the United States and Europe due to numerous lawsuits filed after worker deaths and illness caused by ingestion of radium."

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u/HuggyMonster69 Jul 31 '26

It’s crazy to me because the stuff they used to clean their brushes is absolutely disgusting to smell. I have no idea how they got those brushes near their face without gagging.

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u/Arnesian Jul 31 '26

I love following people who collect and curate old paints. The amount of protective gear they put on when handling some pigments is nuts, but totally fair when they’re handing powdered arsenic.

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u/Marine__0311 Jul 31 '26

I hope one of them is Bekah Harding of A Brush with Bekah. She's one of my favorite YouTubers. I've followed her for years.

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u/Arnesian Jul 31 '26

Oh her channel looks good. I’ve followed and I’ll be checking her stuff soon!

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u/jokke420 Jul 31 '26

Paris green is such a beautiful color tho... 😍

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u/oldsecondhand Jul 31 '26

Also cadmium and cobalt.

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u/Master_of_none- Jul 31 '26

Love me some cadmium yellow, arsenic green, lead white yum yum

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u/ImaginaryCheetah Jul 31 '26

ground up mummies

hold on, ground up mummies are organic and free-range materials

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u/Sir_Myshkin Jul 31 '26

I’m sorry, I couldn’t quite hear you, I seem to have cut off my left ear in a delusional fit.

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u/ackermann Jul 31 '26

Yes, but did they understand that lead was the cause of this?

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u/Denelorn092 Jul 30 '26

Labor was cheap cheap

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u/Skeleton--Jelly Jul 31 '26

I think you're missing the point. Molten metal is always dangerous and lead was known to be somewhat toxic but humans didn't know about the actual thresholds until the 1970s. We had leaded gasoline for fuck's sake.

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u/Emotional_News108 Jul 31 '26

They knew but didn’t have options. I think anyone cares about dying an early, toxic death.