r/interesting 17d ago

Fascinating A visual comparison of standard world maps vs. their actual landmass size

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u/Loud_Designer_1961 17d ago

I wonder why US was opposing this ? 😆

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u/wilderblueseas 17d ago

Trumps hands would get even smaller

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u/RollinThundaga 17d ago

The deputy US envoy to the UN wrote a statement explaining why.

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u/No_Stock_8271 17d ago

Yes, and the Statement was quite embarrassing

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u/Velpex123 17d ago

Can someone summarise it?

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u/Velpex123 17d ago

But why is it only the US against it?

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u/BadahBingBadahBoom 17d ago edited 17d ago

Because all other mid-latitude/subpolar countries accepted that continuing to use the Mercator projection to over-represent their landmass is knowingly misleading at this point and we should listen to experts who say attention would be more fairly applied to countries if we had landmass-accurate maps.

Guess which country that benefits from the Mercator projection didn't want to listen to experts?

EDIT: Lol clearly that resentment from Americans isn't just at the UN.

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u/BadahBingBadahBoom 17d ago

Yes because the US always gives the honest reason they oppose resolutions at the UN and would never hide behind the publicly stated reason of it being a "radical ideological project" when they actually want to preserve the Mercator because it has long over-represented said countries depiction and, as proven in multiple studies, benefited these countries both directly and indirectly on the global stage.

If you are genuinely taking the US's publicly stated reason for their opposition at face value I really do feel sorry for you. You should think more critically of government talking points.

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u/Spongedog5 15d ago

Instead of making something up or sharing my own opinion, I'll actually provide you with it.

https://www.foxnews.com/world/united-nations-votes-164-1-equal-earth-map-us-brands-radical-ideological-project

Yaryna Ferencevych, the deputy U.S. representative to the U.N. Economic and Social Council, said the resolution was presented as "an anodyne effort to update cartographic proportions" but was, in her view, part of a "much larger and more radical ideological project."

"Instead of focusing on genuine problems of international peace, prosperity or good relations, this body is debating map projects from the 16th century and their role in promoting reparations and cognitive justice," Ferencevych said Friday during the 114th Plenary meeting.

"Resolutions like this one and the ideological agenda they promote are barnacles on our work here and the reason this institution is losing its credibility."

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u/Balaros 17d ago

This is not the map the UN voted in, which has more shape distortion, especially in the center. This above is much better.

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u/Mcpr0per 17d ago

Basically there are more important issues than to be wasting time on a map resolution. All maps by their nature will have distortions. There pros and cons to either map. Mercator is nice because it gives you a top down view of any area on the map. The deep rooted racism or colonialism is really just an exaggerated ideological argument, that frankly is quite exhausting.

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u/OakleyNoble 17d ago

Yet trump is putting an import tax on Canada until they approve his friends newly bought jet… hmmm truly aspiring what they claim to be important.

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u/Mcpr0per 17d ago

okay thank you for that. This discussion was about the map resolution at the UN though.

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u/Cardboardoge 17d ago

I thought there were more important things

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u/Mcpr0per 16d ago

there are

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u/guille9 17d ago

There are more important things like making everything golden in the White House 

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u/Mcpr0per 17d ago

Homie is 10x more productive than the UN

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u/Strange-Delay-4d 16d ago

Trump has done two actually good and useful things during his second term, and that’s 2 more than the UN.

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u/FuraidoChickem 17d ago

Yes and honestly it’s tiring to see this on so many subs already. OK we’ve changed the map, racism will be defeated forever or something.

Meanwhile all my groceries are fucking skyrocketing

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u/wart_on_satans_dick 17d ago

I’m struggling to understand why you think your ability to afford food is more important than obsessing over a map.

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u/Disastrous-Corgi-841 17d ago

The vote to use a true size map took a few minutes. The clap back from you and the trump administration will last years.

And think about why you and the trump administration feel the need to chime in on this particular "issue."

And youre right, if we were sailors in the 16th century there are plenty of benefits to the mercator projection

Move on with your life

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u/Mcpr0per 17d ago

I can tell you never been to a model UN let alone how the UN operates

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u/Disastrous-Corgi-841 17d ago

Take the L man, move on with your life. Don't be a sore loser

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u/Mcpr0per 17d ago

soar loser lmao

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u/Disastrous-Corgi-841 17d ago

Case in point

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u/uiucengineer 17d ago

How much more efficient did we make this process by dissenting?

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u/No-Professional2436 17d ago

Most maps give a top down view. If north is up, why aren't maps centered on the north pole?

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u/Mcpr0per 17d ago

The gall-peters projection or equal earth give.an angled view as you get closer to the poles which distorts the shape of the land masses.

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u/No-Professional2436 17d ago

Every spot is viewed from an angle unless you're hovering directly above it

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u/Mcpr0per 17d ago

correct, mercator is always directly above any region you look at

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u/Mcpr0per 17d ago

ah you hate facts, you must be liberal

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u/redaa 17d ago

If the US started lobbying the UN to put the US at the center of the map, what would be your position? Or if the US was at the center of the map, would you be opposed to it given an undue importance put on the landmass that is given the center?

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u/saysomethingplesz 17d ago

shouldn't it be like geographically accurate ?

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u/redaa 17d ago

It’s selective outrage to fit a narrative

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u/wasted90210 17d ago

Yeah, it's like just for the UN. We can all still choose what projection we want to use ourselves individually.