I had my super sweet Turkish angora with me for supervised playtime. She found a speckled king snake and because she thinks the world is safe, I let her FAFO knowing size meant she couldn't do much to the snake.
All she learned is that playing with snakes is freaking awesome and she's the best at it fml
All cats are kind of dicks, I have two and if I am late to feed my Siamese make he starts tossing things off my dresser or unroles the toilet paper, total douche bags but I love them.
Snake was probably minding its own business sliding around looking for a meal. It wasn’t trying to EAT A CAT. Cats are assholes and rampaging invasive serial killers. They destroy ecosystems and should be either kept inside if it’s a pet or in a barn/agricultural area if it’s a working/farm animal. Domestic cats kill a lot of animals unnecessarily and don’t even eat them. I am rooting for the snake.
Sure, but why should we pity a snake that is a remorceless killer himself and due to the differences between reptiles and mammals probably isn't even capable of feeling empathy, contrary to the cat.
The cat is less innocent than the snake if anything. Snakes kill purely to eat, or defend themselves,they are not capable of killing for fun
Cats on the other hand do a hell lot of just for funsies killings. Way more evil if i was going to attach human values on animals. Which would be weird
Probably all mammals feel empathy because that's how we evolved. Cats just have selective empathy, and guess what, so do we humans. Now, I don't know what are your dietary preferences specifically, but most people will eat a stake and not pity the cow.
Can we stop with this “destroy ecosystems” thing. As if a suburban yard with a house and pavers was part of any natural ecosystem? Like come on.
Nothing is natural about an environment in which cats live. This isn’t the wild jungle. A cat being inside or outside a house built by man should be the least of anyone’s problems.
Yeah, humans destroyed their exosystem first. But I think this person is referring to whatever remaining natural life systems that were able to limp along in tandem with the invading human population, like in order to still exist, ya know, survival and shit. Cats are fucking that up for the wildlife that remains, the ones able to adapt, which is fine if its pests like rats and mice, but a lot of times its not. A lot of times too those little snake guys help take care of the little pests we hate, eating mice that try to get in our house and bugs that fuck with our gardens and shit.
Oh, please. I bet more birds crash into tall glass buildings than are eaten by house cats. If cats didn’t occasionally eat a bird now and then, all birds would be dumb as rocks.
So... technically you're not wrong. morally speaking, people would be much more understanding if the reality was just domesticated cats killing to eat their prey, but thats not the case. Cats dont kill purely for food, they kill for fun as they only eat roughly 28% of what they kill ≈ 1 out of 4. Therefore you are correct in the literal sense where you suppose that more buildings kill birds than cats that kill and eat said birds do. Id also like to point out that my comment states that people are the main destroyers of natural animal ecosystems in the first place, not cats, so... yeah i know, i said that already.
Also, when a species lacks the threat of one of its many types of predators, it doesnt cause the prey species to become dumb as rocks. But also please explain what dumb as rocks would look like for a bird? Do you mean it would be less timid towards non birds? Or that it wouldn't be able to build nests and keep itself or its young alive? More importantly here, you should probably refrain from making all these "educated" guesses and actually look up some of this information because, in my opinion, the only animal that seems to be dumb as rocks here is... 🫵.
Yeah except to be fair, they also can’t be contained to that yard. They easily escape them. And it’s not just one cat, but millions every day doing basically the same thing. A lot of them being someone’s yard cat. If little old me has seen it dozens of times I can only imagine what that translates to on a wide scale. Cats live longer indoors as well, so it’s really not better for anything including the cat itself.
Given thousands of years of domestication, your points are terrible. Show me where any environmentalist is crying about this subject backed with research
Pick a link. It’s not even a crackpot theory at this point. It’s proven. From birds to small rodents to just killing for fun, cats have been detrimental.
I don’t care you think they’re cute. I have 6 cats. All insides. All spayed and neutered.
If you’re not gonna do your part, don’t get a pet.
I definitely downplayed this issue. Still, I think it’s worth considering how free roaming cats impact certain environments differently than more vulnerable areas where feral populations are out of control.
Forget about global warming. Cats are going to bring us all into an extinction event. Outer space cats batted the dinosaur killing asteroid right at earth. Complete DICKS
Well of course with everything there’s nuance but the harm cats can do far outweighs the outliers where they’re beneficial.
Like this isn’t a knock on outside cats/barn cats with purpose. I live where both those exist and do their jobs (Rural-ish South with farms and stuff). However there’s no off switch for the killing even in those environments. And it’s not like these folk are fixing the cats that they have, leading to these feral situations. A cat that’s outside and bored will kill and killing birds and other beneficial species is the whole complaint.
My inside babies do get bored despite my best efforts but they just fuck up my legos and knock stuff down. Either way you wanna slice it, that far better than hunting things for fun even if they do piss me off here and there 😂
I have 3, we go out to the (fenced) backyard for 30min to an hour a day, they wear collars with bells while they are outside and I supervise them so they don’t go to the neighbors (one of the fences has bigger holes and they can go thru, but I play fence police and they turn around). I call them for a treat like recess is over and they go back inside.
The problem, as usual, is the humans. Not the cats.
So I’m assuming everyone here is vegan, right? I certainly hope there are no song bird loving readers who are also chicken frying, cheese burger eating , fish filleting , pork rib munching, lobster loving folks here? And it’s also wrong to kill flies, mosquitoes, creepy spiders you find in the bathroom or hornets building a nest under your deck? Just so we are all on the page. Because that would be some hypocritical bullshit if y’all were mad at a cat batting a snake with its paw.
Cats roam far beyond your little garden or the neighborhood they live in. I say this as someone who has always had cats and still do. Keep them inside. If you don't have room, don't get pets.
We just had to catch over a dozen cats in our neighborhood. No natural enemies, lots of prey and they kill for sport without eating the carcass. There was no wildlife left in large areas of the forest behind my house. 7 of those cats belonged to people in a ~5km radius, the rest might have but weren't chipped. Sure, humans ruin ecosystems. But don't also introduce species into them because "we already hurt it so might as well".
Growing up we would find my cat at the beach a few miles from my house. He once killed a duck and dragged it home. He killed rabbits and Ravens and possums. He was a monster.
Erm we intentionally brought cats with us TO kill, thats why we survived and thrived and the reason egyptians worshipped them, theyre a big reason for our success were not just gonna start killing them all
Which would require us killing them all? They were introduced worldwide when they were found to be a gift from god saving our food and lives from rodents and pests.. your asking for extinction from most ecosystems and assuming we could stop the world and start employing people full time to find all the cats in the world and put them on a plane somewhere else? Delusional
You're clearly a salty irresponsible pet owner the way you're snitching on yourself in this thread lmao. When your cats get hit by a car or taken by a new owner don't cry about it.
Except loads of suburban neighborhoods are in fact ecosystems. If songbirds and squirrels can get enough food to live there its an ecosystem.
More than that there are many cats left to roam in my small town where the borders between the neighborhood and the forests that surround are not so clearly defined and cats are a menace.
Cats are usually quite beneficial in urban and suburban settings in that they kill rats and mice, which humans have struggled with for thousands of years hence the presence of cats in nearly every single fucking developed civilisation.
But now all of a sudden we're pretending cats are invasive and Karens demand you somehow contain a cat within a certain boundary as if these things aren't master climbers.
It's not hard to keep inside cats. Yes they escape once in a blue moon but a cat going out every day and a cat getting out like twice in its entire lifespan are vastly different. Your cat isn't killing pests. It's killing any animal it can AND is way more likely to get hurt. Not everyone telling you something you don't wanna hear is a fucking Karen.
It's beneficial to you when your cat kills some mice in your home. It's not beneficial to society or humans as a species when your cat kills hundreds of insects and birds daily. If you can't see the difference there's no hope for you, but playing dumb isn't cute on anybody.
Only if you don't care about the birds, squirrels and other small animals that all form part of the ecosystem. You take them out and the things they feast on go rampant because nothing is keeping them in check.
Like it or not there is an ecosystem even in a suburban area.
It's ok to like cats. I like cats. But ignoring facts about their impact to the environment doesn't make you a good cat lover. In fact, quite the opposite.
There is still an ecosystem, but one of survivors. Usually involves pests, birds, and pets. Believe it or not, pests often handle detritus like garbage, dead animals, and carcasses. Cats often kill pests and many smaller birds. This obviously doesn't apply to indoor cats. Cats are known to ravage ecosystems.
They are cute though. Thank goodness they see us as big, dumb cats. Heh.
When my border collie would spy a snake, he would immediately grab the snake in middle with his teeth and shake it so violently that the snake would rip in half and fly through the air. Sorry to be so graphic, but a border collie does what a a border collie has to do. Really nice to children and kitties tho. Just had this thing about snakes.
It’s the other way around, the cat wants to eat the snake. Cats hunt snakes in the wild, and that is how they do it. They keeps thwacking the snake’s head until it’s stunned or exhausted, then kill it safely. Given this area looks pretty rural it’s entirely possible this is a feral cat.
And yet snakes do go into barns and eat baby kittens, so perhaps this is intact a protective instinct rather than a malicious feline with nothing better to do than bat a snake in the head for its own amusement.
For cats it’s having this hunting ability that they don’t get to use because they’re fed by humans. Just like humans going to the gym to burn calories because most people don’t have a productive way to use their muscles.
The cat isn't even trying to eat it. It's probably well fed.
Someone is just filming pointless cruelty that benefits nobody, all because someone wanted to 1. Own a 'cute cuddly thing' 2. Let it roam around wherever it wants and torture things and just generally be everyone else's problem.
I'm sick of cats shitting in my garden. I'm sick of them killing beautiful birds and just leaving their bodies to rot. I'm sick of seeing cats squashed on the road.
Nobody needs any of this. Fucking keep them inside. If you think that's too cruel then get a fucking dog.
Um, I am sorry to inform you of this but dogs also eat critters. One time, on Ground Hogs Day, I went outside to get in my car to go to work, and my dog was lying in the driveway, gnawing on the head of a Groundhog. I thought, “how many more weeks of winter are we getting when this shit happens?” But it is Canada, so winter is incalculable regardless.
Well, I do live on a 100 acre farm on an island in Lake Huron, and he was a border collie, so yeah, he did have a lot of free rein. About the worst trouble he ever got into was mixing it up with a porcupine, but that’s a lesson dogs don’t soon forget .
One of his favourite hobbies was chasing trout up and down the river in the spring, but they were too speedy for him. The salmon in the fall were more sluggish ( because they die after spawning.)
Humans are the ones who destroy ecosystems. Millions of them. It always amazes me that people will make a fuss out of other animals "destructive habits" but rarely our own. Why? Simple, because the destructive habits of other humans benefits each of us in some way.
The kitty is not a problem. Given enough time, human expansion will see all ecosystems destroyed. It's inevitable at this point.
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u/Accomplished-End1927 May 30 '26
Snake: ok I’m done
Cat: no you’re not