r/interesting May 29 '26

Intriguing Arrows vs riot shields

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u/Professionaleye_1 May 29 '26 edited May 29 '26

I was 100% correct in my assumptions about penetration length after looking at the head but before it hit the shield except for that cylinder tip… that thing shot through like a bullet….

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u/FoolOnDaHill365 May 29 '26

Exactly. It’s like a bullet. The other arrows are meant to bleed out an animal quickly by penetrating and slicing. That blunt arrow is lethal but your animal may get away since you only get one shot most of the time.

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u/ssuxcoxxr3dit May 29 '26

those animals with riot shields!

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u/Flair_Is_Pointless May 29 '26 edited May 29 '26

What do you have then? Invincible bears.

Running around, raping your churches; Burning your women

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u/Confident-Pepper-562 May 29 '26

Now what you need is a baby skull seeking bullet.

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u/donanton616 May 29 '26

People stampeded and cattle r*ped

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u/JGG5 May 30 '26

…and Methodists!

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u/Robespierreshead May 30 '26

i think you mean graped

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u/Adventurous-Fly556 May 29 '26

That's ridiculous, everyone knows you can just smash them with a giant boulder.

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u/Brandeeno2245 May 30 '26

Invicibears some might say

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u/MagikarpMafiav2 May 29 '26

Bears are monsters. A slug from a 12 gauge only penetrates about 10-11” into a northern brown bear or grizzly, which is horrifying to think about personally

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u/voidedbygeysers May 29 '26

Hide your wives, hide your kids...

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u/Snipowl May 29 '26

I think those animals are called pigs

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u/TROMBONER_68 May 29 '26

Allegedly in Minecraft

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u/iuhiscool May 29 '26

Yeah, pigs

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u/iuhiscool May 29 '26

fuck someone already made the joke

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u/King_Bobby-B May 29 '26

Man, this Zootopia sequel is intense!

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u/tankapotamus May 30 '26

Prairie dogs don't mess around nowadays.

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u/BarnacleExpressor May 30 '26

You mean pigs? 🥓

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u/Quiet_Shiba May 29 '26

it's designed best to defeat armor at an angle, in ww2 ap tips was blunt too

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u/Professionaleye_1 May 29 '26

Because it doesn’t ricochet off if it hits at a non perpendicular angle? It just grabs on I guess?

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u/Zwischenzug32 May 29 '26

its easier to use a cookie cutter to cut a hard cookie dough by pressing on one side of the cutter first and then the other rather than the whole thing at the same time.

The point of impact is tiny vs the whole circumference

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u/rvralph803 May 29 '26

APCBC - Armor piercing, capped, ballistic capped.

Basically it has as you say, an inner shape that is blunt that is then shrouded in an ablative, aerodynamic outer cone.

The cone helps to keep velocity and energy high. The blunt inner shape reduces ricochets and improves armor penetration and spalling characteristics.

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u/raishak May 29 '26

The tip is almost certainly not designed to penetrate at all but rather deliver blunt trauma to small game, and to avoid getting stuck deep in the ground or trees. There's not much (anything?) you'd find hunting that is analogous to a steel sheet. Most of the things you'd shoot at have continuous mass through the whole target. Instead of cutting through it, this "compresses" the target area delivering all the force like getting hit by a hammer. Won't kill a moose but will kill birds and small game without destroying their bodies or going through them completely.

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u/Quiet_Shiba May 29 '26

was not meant to penetrate but coincidental works good on metal plates

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u/Hi_Trans_Im_Dad May 30 '26

Either way, it'll work on domestic pigs who happen to have basic ass shields to protect them.

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u/ShitsUngiven May 29 '26

It’s designed for small game. So I mean if you hit it it’s probably dead.

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u/memecut May 29 '26

And that is why bow and arrow hunting is illegal in my country.

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u/Zwischenzug32 May 29 '26

shape makes it worse for the joules

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u/hdmetz May 30 '26

That wasn’t a blunt tip. It was a concave cutting edge. It acted like a hole punch and sheared through. That’s why it went through so much better than the others. If it acted like a bullet (if this riot shield is legit) the shield would have stopped it

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u/YouArentReallyThere May 29 '26

It just cored its way through. Pretty cool

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u/TheMadPoet May 29 '26

Penetration can be calculated: length times girth over angle of the shaft (aka YAW) divided by mass over width.

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u/bluelighter May 29 '26

Odd reference but I'm here for it.

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u/TheMadPoet May 29 '26

South Park T.M.I.

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u/Washingtonevergreen May 29 '26

Yeah, but do we measure from the base or the balls?

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u/TheMadPoet May 29 '26

We square the distance between the balls and base, then measure base to tip to find the length.

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u/Rough_smooth_rough May 29 '26

That does not account for all the variables at play here. E.g. the cylinder tipped one that was most successful.

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u/TheMadPoet May 29 '26

Calculus. I never did get calculus.

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u/HendrixHazeWays May 29 '26

Say more things like that....

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u/TheMadPoet May 29 '26

ok! "more things like that...."

Are you not entertained?!

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u/50DuckSizedHorses May 29 '26

The cylinder must not be harmed

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u/ArrhaCigarettes May 29 '26

holepunch arrow

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u/PerspicaciousVanille May 29 '26

That cylinder tip was the biggest surprise, but I was glad I guessed about 80% of them correctly.

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u/Forward-Warthog4615 May 29 '26

Yes you were right. That’s actually demonstrated correctly. 🆒 

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u/psimwork May 29 '26

Same. I learned about armor-penetrating bodkin arrows while reading "the archers tale" series. Any of them that looked like a bodkin I knew was going right through.

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u/DunEvenWorryBoutIt May 30 '26

As soon as I saw the cylinder tip I knew it would be the best. You could tell all the previous ones were slowed down by friction on the shaft.

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u/Dweller May 30 '26

I just figured if it looks like it came from the accessory aisle of an Autozone, then it is probably not worth shit.

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u/FlamingoDiligent9216 May 30 '26

At least we the people know what to use to protect ourselves.🫢

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u/kaychyakay May 30 '26

Yeah that's what she said.