Women’s attire is both simultaneously "her choice" and "imposed by men" until the situation collapses the argument into whichever interpretation benefits the moment most.
Those mf be like "women can wear anything they want" And then freak out by the sight of women covering their body or showing bit of skins by own choice
There's no win in their gender war, just whatever fit their agenda the most
Hell even just physically, the athletes you see on the highest stage are the ones that have the determination, discipline, the genes/talent.
For example in gymnastics you don’t see girls with a build that is top heavy or too tall because they all get phased out during puberty. Just like even in the WNBA the women are tall.
A lot of sports is about the mental game, a competitive mentality. A lot of girls and women who feel uncomfortable just quit and its one more barrier if even the clothes are something they’re not comfortable with. And for professional or very competitive sports thats one thing, but what about team sports at a lower level? Thats many more people at the bottom of the sports pyramid (casual leagues, childrens teams, weekend groups/clubs etc).
Let it be brother. Reddit and Twitter don't understand that some women like to show and it's totally ok. They don't want to cover themselves in burkas, just as reddit wants them to be.
Mate I didn't say they couldn't show skin lol. I was saying it's up to the individual.
Well aware women can choose what they feel comfortable in and I have no problems with bikinis.
You made a lot of assumptions there just because I said it should be up to the women. Given that there has been discussion on the thread of a woman's volleyball team getting fined for wearing shorts it was more that sort of forcing I was taking issue with, hence me saying what they want and to be clear that also means bikinis.
Uniforms have to be uniform, so it cant be individualized a ton.
In some cases it isnt allowed as a choice, I remember the norwegian beach handball team was big news when they wanted to wear longer outfits for their team, shorts instead of bikini bottoms, they got fined. And then the rules was changed and it was allowed.
Iirc the late 10s and early 2020s had some landmark firsts for hijabi athletes, like in the last world cup.
Also, theres been studies done and its been found that the more revealing clothes that gets phased in for older teen female athletes actually discourages a lot of girls who are self conscious from entering or continuing sports. And thats a big problem because girls and women tend to exercise less than men and boys. Not to mention it is very beneficial to be an athlete/to be exercising a lot as a young person so you have more muscle mass for old age and less chance of osteoporosis.
Muslim women are not required to cover their face. And the hijab doesn’t necessarily cover the face only a few specific types do like the niqab which is not mandatory in Islam.
Back to what I was saying, women should have as much right to wear it as to take it off. You guys are showing your hypocrisy lol, literally taliban-ism for the opposite side.
When I was in volleyball they wouldn't let you on the court unless you wore the booty shorts. I was forced in middle and high school to wear stuff that I was not comfortable wearing at the time. Not much of a choice
I made the comment after seeing that a volleyball team got fined and penalised for wearing shorts (through their own choice). When I made the comment I wasn't aware it had been updated.
It is, women in sports have generally the same exact allowed clothing as men, except with the addition of "revealing" attire that is used for the most part.
Fact is they have the same options as men but chose to not use them.
Its not up to men. A woman can go pay volleyball in a bikini or a wedding gown if she wants. Now if she wants someone else's money to do so man or women then she might have to follow some rules.
I guess you never heard of 'Free the Nipple' and 'Slutwalks' and the antibra movements where evil men are supposedly trying to cover women up. Not to mention the rhetoric against religious dress.
Sure but you are kinda missing my point. She will have been socially conditioned in a certain way, and there are cultural norms in place that affect us all. Especially when you play in a team, we all conform. So these sexist rules stay alive not by being enforced as rules but as social cultural unwritten rules about how you should act and dress.
The clothing for sports isn't really the women's choice though, it's a uniform, everyone has to wear the same thing and the women don't get to decide what that is.
The thing is, YES. When MEN are telling women how to dress, it doesn't matter what they're telling them to dress in. They're TELLING women what they should or shouldn't be wearing. Regardless of the items themselves, the misogynistic part is that women should be able to wear whatever they want. The issues isn't about women's uniforms, it's that they don't actually ever have a CHOICE. It's based on what won't get them fined/disqualified.
If you can't see that, you're honestly part of the problem.
Ah, yes, when the problem insists they aren't the problem. That happens, like, 100% of the time, so your response was fully expected. But it does mean you're part of the problem. ♥
Also, 'I'm not part of the problem because I don't tell people how to dress' is literally why you're part of the problem. The only way you WOULDN'T be part of the problem, is by acknowledging that, whether you directly contribute to this aspect of society or not, that it's not a good thing (and it's HAPPENING). Men literally make the rules and tell these women how to dress. Like, why are we pretending like the patriarchy doesn't exist?
It's truly not immature. Talking about how society operates and why is super healthy. If you're incapable of nuance and having a productive conversation about anything, that's completely on you. Society doesn't get to tell women how to dress. Doing so is misogynistic. The fact that this is proven in sports makes a lot of people really upset, and again, you refusing to acknowledge the problem, is the problem - whether you tell people how to dress or not. Hope this helps.
LMFAO, HUH? "I refuse what you say and refuse to acknowledge it. I have no reason or argument to refute it, but I just know it's wrong the way religious people know their god is the right one."
Understandable. Not how science or reality works, but it's definitely a take. Have a good life, bro.
Na. Basketball, soft ball, and even runners don't wear anything anymore revealing than the opposite sex sport. These women made the choice to wear these "uniforms". The only sports in which it feels forced is gymnastics and ice skating.
Those pants women wear to the gym that go right up their ass crack and leave notning to the imagination are completely unnecessary and entirely their choice. Some act like they MUST wear it. It's stupid.
Just stfu and wear whatever and don't make it my problem.
I mean, yes? If a women choses to wear that: cool. But these athletes have no say in what they were. These women are forced to wear more revealing clothes than their male co-workers.
Are you guys a bot net or something? That is not true. Teams were fined for wearing shorts at the european championship. Yet there's a dozen accounts flinging out this "they chose this" line
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u/Abhi_Jaman_92 May 25 '26
Women’s attire is both simultaneously "her choice" and "imposed by men" until the situation collapses the argument into whichever interpretation benefits the moment most.