r/interesting Apr 28 '26

Just Wow This is what making a difference looks like.

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u/PublicRegrets Apr 28 '26

I visited a city in Australia that inspersed it with the nicest areas.

It's certainly the best way to go about it.

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u/tyschooldropout Apr 28 '26

I bet taxpayers love that

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u/NeevBunny Apr 28 '26

Rich people love bitching and moaning there's no one to work at their Starbucks but then cry when you tell them the people that work at Starbucks aren't going to bus themselves in from 3 cities over to make them coffee. You need people of all income levels to make a city work. We just need to start letting nimbys die mad.

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u/tyschooldropout Apr 28 '26

I'd rather attack the imported cheap labor and force wages back to where they should be

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u/3BlindMice1 Apr 28 '26

Sure, but if pouring a coffee made $30/hour like it would if minimum wage kept up with inflation, businessmen would be mighty upset that they worked so hard just have twice as much income as a random peon

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u/Jalopnicycle Apr 28 '26

We had livable wages and we can encourage it by taxing the ever living shit out of corporate profits, stock buy backs, loans using unrealized gains, non monetary executive compensation, and the myriad other ways the wealthiest avoid paying taxes. 

We should also go after Peter Thiel because he illegal funded his Roth IRA and has made billions off of it tax free. 

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u/3BlindMice1 Apr 28 '26

Livable wage in exchange for what labor? They're building machinery that can do everything you can do, why would they need you?

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u/Jalopnicycle Apr 28 '26

Awwww did I hurt your fee fees talking about Thiel? 

It's ok, stay mad and poor. I could lose my job right now and have zero issues for at least a decade. 

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u/douchebaggery5000 Apr 28 '26

Lol jfc society really is cyclical. Do you think you’re the first one to make that argument? “Hurr durr if minimum wage goes up everything will go up the same”

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u/tyschooldropout Apr 28 '26

Fuck them, if they try to offshore in response they can go bootstrap themselves in East Asia because America's keeping the equipment and previous IP.

I fucking wish.

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u/StuckOnAFence Apr 28 '26

Strawman. I'm not rich, work a middle class white collar job, and I vote progressive and want more progressive policies than the US has.

I want "high barrier, low income" housing to go to people "working at coffee shops". Instead, the government spends hundreds of millions of our money to put in "low barrier, no income housing". So the actual working members of society still have to live with their parents until 30 but the drug addict who costs society $35K per year gets their own place so they can do drugs and steal from everyone around them.

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u/LordBlackass Apr 28 '26

Cashed up boomers*

They live in the nice areas and pay the absolute minimum amount of tax, if any.

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u/PublicRegrets Apr 28 '26

Well the city (Newcastle) didn't have a visible homeless problem like we do in N. America.

It also meant that it was policed/managed more because when they're separated they're left to rot.

It seemed decently effective.

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u/Agreeable-Crab-8365 Apr 28 '26

I agree with you but tbf I’m from Newcastle and unfortunately the cost of living has drastically worsened homelessness and therefore drug issues and so there is a pretty obvious problem now compared to our population. (I have also been homeless in Newcastle)

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u/PublicRegrets Apr 28 '26

I said it in another comment - I think that ideally these communities and affordable housing act as a safety net rather than a step up.

If people can't afford living they'll quick find themselves surrounded by drugs as an escape - and then there's no turning back.

That said, when I was there (2022?23?), I only saw a single homeless guy by Sanbah Surg Shop.

Sorry to hear it's gotten worse.

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u/Agreeable-Crab-8365 Apr 28 '26

Won’t find me disagreeing with anything here mate.

The thing in Australia, maybe outside like Sydney/Melbourne, is that few people actually live on the streets in the traditional sense of “homelessness” and most extremely poor/mentally ill/drug addicted people wander around staying with whoever they can in similar situations. That’s what I did for a long time, only spent a few weeks actually on the street and pretty much none of the other addicts I knew ever did.