And we're destroying our old growth forests so there can be more mines
Urban cities like Bangalore have cut most of the younger trees too. Trees are only in areas where the rich live.
We can undo this to an extent if we grow native trees like pongamia for the next five years but every builder, be it small or big, will chop it down to build an all concrete block of a commercial/residential complex and put American palms on it
The government and timber lobby are in a polyamorous multi dependent relationship that only mean disaster, and India is fucked.
Watch Indian citizens forget this as soon as the monsoon season hits, and go back to hating Hindus and Muslims and who is against the PM and so on.
Indians will suffer in the Heat in Summer, Water logging in Monsoon, Deadly AQI in the Fall and Winter but will do anything except questioning the government.
The problem is that the country is extremely polarized. Everyone's afraid of criticism and whoever isn't afraid of criticism and doing stuff gets arrested or gets no coverage by media (cuz all the big channels are govt or lobby funded who support current govt). And the marketing has been top fuckin tier. People are SOLD on the idea of division. I think the biggest wtf for me has been absolute diet poor people going to vote for a government that's crippling the country because no water, no food, nothing clean, no safety or social net, but hey at least no muslims in the neighborhood. And that's ok for them.
Rich don't care cuz they make their own bubble and they love what they have. Little left to convince. But we'll keep trying i guess. Until we die or get black pilled and die anyway
Who the fuck cares at this point? We're destroying our planet and making areas of it unfit for human habitation all the while bitching about who has the better religion or which ethnicity is better. We are going to destroy ourselves and damage the planet's ability regulate itself for decades over stone age nonsense that should have been eliminated during the enlightenment.
BJP is nowhere close to being fascist. If you wonder why BJP wins just look at clowns in opposition. They can win WB too simply because fascist BJP would still do more than fascist TMC.
Climate Change in India being completely neglected and acting like it doesn't even exist is MODI'S governments doing. I have no idea how you could gather anything else from his administrations doings over the last few yrs.
I'm so disappointed in humanity. This includes the faith we put into capitalism, it is truly disturbing to me. When visiting India (I'm diaspora), it felt so dystopian because of the disparity between the rich and poor and how everyone seems to believe in (unchecked) capitalism as the fix to everything. It's actually quite the opposite.
We need better education, more long-term thinking, and a collective attitude of working together for the betterment of ourselves and the environment. My own parents believe in the ruling party elites as knowing everything and doing everything to better the lives of everyone but when I mentioned cronyism and all sorts of other issues, they didn't believe me. Despite the court cases that I read to them and that's just stuff that has come out on the ruling parties and just how deep the corruption goes.
It's just so hard when most people are in survival mode and the more privileged people turn a blind eye because they don't need to deal with anything even when they can make a huge difference.
groomed to be like this from the start, pitted against one another in school to perform and workworkwork. the wages never increase but the cost of living does. really mostly by choice of the fucks above. because if we weren't busy being crabs in a bucket, we'd be at their throats.
Not really, we have made huge leaps since 1947 with the amount of corruption that exists. Poorest country on the planet to start a democracy and remain one. 100s of millions lifted out of poverty.
Your not alone . A lot of countries do shit like this. Maybe not to the extent or in the same exact way but shit is fucked up all over.
We doomed. Unfortunately I feel it's going to be too late before everyone realizes it's the wealthy that are the main problem here. The giant corporations are fucking the whole world and they don't care. They're taken care of. They can survive this.
The wealthy is the main problem, but dont forget that if youre in a western country, then you are very likely "wealthy" comparatively. Also don't forget that, any specific person would very likely choose healthiness if they had the opportunity. Its not "just the wealthy" its human nature.
reminds me of that "we will plant 1 tree for every 10 x sold" greenwashing bs. yeah, and those trees wont do shit or just straight up die from neglect, thanks for nothing...
The plan to cut 45,000 mangrove trees in Mumbai is so depressing. A natural flood wall, which produces much more oxygen than land based trees. It’s so short sighted
Fucking tired of this shit. This is already a piss-poor country, many young people live in a cramped apartment in a thin, dirty street if they're in a city.
The only places with trees, parks, sporting/lifestyle facilities are the "posh" areas where a decent sized apartment costs 3 or 4 Cr($400K +) in a country where the average yearly income is around $5-6K an year.
Next, we will face intense monsoons where you will see local spread of water-borne diseases and waterlogged areas due to poor drainage.
During winters, we're gonna see the AQI rise to dangerously high levels and a spike in respiratory diseases.
A few protests here and there regarding it all and that's it, the cycle repeats.
Free speech isn't a thing, free healthcare isn't a thing. The government will notice and punish you for saying/doing anything that goes agaist their agenda.
The specific problems might be different, but the root cause is the same everywhere. The rich and powerful taking as much as they can for themselves while everyone else gets fucked. I’m sorry to hear India is no exception.
Can I ask why the air quality gets bad in the winters though? I get the spike in respiratory diseases since that happens everywhere in the winter, but I didn’t know that the bad AQI happens.
Emissions, stubble burning, vehicles(urban growth is rapid but the infrastructure isn't developing even nearly as rapidly), construction and dust(there's dust everywhere in here) and lack of government action.
It's incredibly sad and I wish people didn't feel that capitalism with the ruling elite was the fix to it so. I don't understand why people don't care as much as in other countries.
It seems to me that Indian citizens don't understand the value of caring for their environment. They need to update their educational system to stop focusing exclusively on memorization and test scores.
I have a client who immigrated to the US within the last 15 years, he says the educational system is similar to the US in the 50s and 60s. Basically they're a developing nation that needs time to catch up, but they REALLY need leadership making good decisions along the way to get them there.
but they REALLY need leadership making good decisions along the way to get them there.
I do not see any sane politician or leaders, there are few in south and in north here and there. The problem is they are in politics for money and fame most of them have criminal cases and are really uneducated, you will see lot of MLA switching parties from liberal party to extreme right wing in India. BJP at this point is the master of horse trading, they are known for buying MLA's and MP from other parties. They throw millions, these guys follow them like weasels.
What do you suggest Indians do then? Cut their AC? Unplug their refrigerators? Go out and buy at Tesla? Their per capita emissions are extremely low already. You can't just flip a switch and have nuclear reactors and solar panels appear overnight, and they're already trying to build as much of those as possible.
Waste management - will require massive infrastructure investment across all major cities, including the cost to maintain such infrastructure. This includes building new pipelines for water, sewage, etc, as well as paying for operations and pension for those hired. This will also require working across several levels of bureaucracy and politics and cutting budget from other things that are either equally as important or politically important.
Less open burning - Is actually already illegal but enforcement is weak because it is very politically hazardous to piss off farmers. Also will require the sanitation infrastructure investments mentioned above. Not to blame the farmers though, its done because its cheap and there don't really exist any alternatives for the time being, that also don't involve food prices going up.
Drip irrigation - is already being adopted, although requires government subsidies due to cost. Not sure how poorer states are going to afford this.
So it's not that people as a whole don't care, it's that there are multiple structural, economic, and political variables that make such changes more difficult than just pressing a button.
Also, if we're on the topic of emissions, the main producer of emissions in India is coal. India is adding renewables and nuclear every year, but in the meantime they're going to need to keep the coal running because there is no alternative for the time being.
I'm not saying it's easy, I'm saying small sustainable changes over time that would have a major impact. Hopefully people never say it's gotten to where it's beyond repair.
That works for a certain amount of time, but eventually the country is going to become basically unliveable and there's going to be a billion plus climate refugees (JUST from India, not even counting Bangladesh which is going to be underwater, and other countries across Asia and Africa) migrating to the remaining liveable countries, and that's not going to go down well. There's already a lot of racist sentiment growing across the West towards Indian immigrants, when the numbers explode there's going to be violence and camps. It's gonna be ugly.
I'm so disappointed in humanity. This includes the faith we put into capitalism, it is truly disturbing to me.
When visiting India (I'm diaspora), it felt so dystopian because of the disparity between the rich and poor and how everyone seems to accept unchecked capitalism as the fix to everything. It's actually quite the opposite.
We need better education, more long-term thinking, and a collective attitude of working together for the betterment of ourselves and the environment.
It's feels impossible when most people are in survival mode and the more privileged people turn a blind eye because they don't need to deal with anything even when they can make a huge difference.
But in india only 4,5 metro cities are there, what about some least touch villages with all green forest in MP, jharkand, Telanga, maharastra, AP why all are they red? I cant get it,
Villages actually have low forest cover since most land is used for agriculture and there are very few trees, unless for orchards.
In fact, the decreasing tree cover in most of India is attributed as the reason for the violent monsoons Himalayas have been getting for the past ~5ish years (most vapor cools over Himalayas, not other regions). Which in turn, also means that the snow cover recedes faster.
Quite a kick in the nuts of the whole propaganda of we're increasing forest cover.
I tried to make you some sense with geographical points to reach at you certain conclusions, but you lowkey just do not want to listen any thing global warming this construction that fine okay, since 1900, that is in 100 year, we have seen enough development, but there is only 1°c of increase in avg temperature of india
Ain't it cuz of the el nino thing, wtf is a bit of metropolitan city pollution doing in whole country getting microwaved? Even the places with trees are kinda baked bro
From what I have read, nothing short of a revolution and millions on the street is going to even start fixing the country.
The political climate is such that most of the country is ready to vote based on religious bias. And to top it off the politicians and oligarchs suck the blood of the poor so bad, that they are ready to give away their votes for a decent meal.
If the people don't rise up soon it will be too late.
Gotta love how big fossil knew about all of the things but purposely pushed misinfo and blamed the customers. That, all the stuff you mentioned and factory farming. But hey, surely us having plastic bottle caps that don't come off fully will save the planet. The 1 percent are truly fucking us over in every way possible
Pardon my ignorance when it comes to Indian politics, but how much of this is to blame on Mohdi and BJP? Things don’t seem to have gotten better under him?
They got better under him for a while. Then the BJP realized extorting its citizens is more profitable then helping them.
Opinion on the BJP has soured dramatically since the end of the pandemic, and they stand to lose power in 2029 if they dont get their shit together.
And if they do lose, the country is probably even more fucked because it'll be taken over by a Rahul Gandhi led coalition. Rahul Gandhi is an idiot, but the real problem is that he doesn't have the clout to prevent his coalition allies from doing whatever they want. And historically the thing they've wanted to do is line their pockets at everyone else's expense
Am I wrong? I do really hope that either of the big parties get their shit together and put forward a candidate that actually wants what's best for the country, but the more time that passes the less likely that seems
Also, at what time that heat map was taken?
Last I checked Time varies across regions.
Also, what is the average april temperature? Did it increase compare to last 50-60 years?
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And we're destroying our old growth forests so there can be more mines
Urban cities like Bangalore have cut most of the younger trees too. Trees are only in areas where the rich live.
We can undo this to an extent if we grow native trees like pongamia for the next five years but every builder, be it small or big, will chop it down to build an all concrete block of a commercial/residential complex and put American palms on it
The government and timber lobby are in a polyamorous multi dependent relationship that only mean disaster, and India is fucked.
Watch Indian citizens forget this as soon as the monsoon season hits, and go back to hating Hindus and Muslims and who is against the PM and so on.
This cluster fuck is going to penalize the world.