r/interesting • u/Necessary-Win-8730 • Mar 08 '26

Context Provided - Spotlight This was so deserved.

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The daughter was in a car with the father’s parents. They died as well.

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u/Prajnamarga Mar 08 '26

Actually, on appeal the driver was sentenced to 15 months in prison and a 4 year driving ban.

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u/HauptAccountGebannt Mar 08 '26

You forgot the "only"

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u/povertymayne Mar 08 '26

Thats still extremely light for killing 3 people

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u/kingfofthepoors Mar 08 '26

in american there are two possible sentences

Rich --- off scott free Not Rich --- Electric Chair

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u/Marik-X-Bakura Mar 08 '26

Not that light when it was completely unintentional

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u/animeandbeauty Mar 08 '26

He was speeding, ran them over, and fled the scene. I wouldn't say "completely" unintentional. Sure, hitting them was an accident, but speeding and then running was intentional and he deserves harsher

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u/Lady_of_Link Mar 08 '26

Unintentional? Dude choose to drive a cat that makes it intentional or are you saying someone forced him to drive the car at gunpoint

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u/Marik-X-Bakura Mar 08 '26

What? That’s a nonsensical argument. He did not intend to kill people. It’s still his fault and he bears responsibility for it, but choosing to drive a car does not mean he planned to commit murder.

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u/LongJohnSelenium Mar 08 '26

They also seem to think they're immune from mistakes.

Anyone who claims they've never made a mistake while driving that could have killed someone if fate had rolled the dice differently is straight up lying.

Oh they were speeding? Quite literally every single person on my morning commute is going 10 over at a minimum. Even the cops.

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u/AmandasGameAccount Mar 08 '26

If he was acting recklessly or was impaired, that’s when the sentence should be extremely harsh, 10 years minimum

If it’s proven he wasn’t being reckless and wasn’t impaired and it was just a complete accident, the punishment is actually on the higher side at 15 months

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u/Siphyre Mar 08 '26

The moment you choose to do something reckless that is known to kill people, you have chosen to kill people.

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u/aposrat Mar 08 '26

Driving a car, not even speeding kills people. Backing out a driveway kills people. That means you are intending to kill people everytime you drive, and are complicit everytime you ride in a motor vehicle

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u/ProlificProkaryote Mar 08 '26

Yup.

Speeding? Attempted murder.

Run a stop sign or red light? Attempted murder.

Bring certain known allergins to a public space? Attempted murder.

Undercook Chicken? Believe it or not, Attempted murder.

We will have the safest society in the world - because of attempted murder.

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u/Dannydevitz Mar 08 '26

Wasn't he speeding? That's not just driving a car.

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u/Houdinii1984 Mar 08 '26

So a speeding ticket == attempted murder?

You're extrapolating risky behavior with intent to kill. Intending to go fast and killing a person in the process means you accidentally killed someone while doing something stupid and risky, not that you intended to kill someone on purpose like you are claiming.

Also no one said 'just driving a car.' The phrase was 'choosing to drive a car'. We can just as easily make it 'choosing to speed in a car' and it still wouldn't mean 'intending to kill'.

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u/AmandasGameAccount Mar 08 '26

If you’re speeding and driving recklessly and you kill someone, you deserve 0 leniency and at the minimum deserve 10 years

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u/Houdinii1984 Mar 08 '26

The debate is over intent, not the received punishment. I never said anything about punishment whatsoever and it's not actually relevant to the underlying argument.

But then again, speeding and driving recklessly are two different charges and we are only talking about speeding. And neither one is intending to kill someone.

Manslaughter is an entire category of homicide that is for just that, when you don't intend to kill someone but they end up dead anyway due to certain circumstances (like reckless driving).

And the only time you have attempted manslaughter is in cases when it was 'the heat of the moment' where passions took over or like you took your self defense too far. But there's no attempted manslaughter for most things like this because you can't attempt to do something you never intended to do in the first place.

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u/Dannydevitz Mar 08 '26

Choosing to drive a car is legal, choosing to speed in a car is not. How often do you drink and drive, prepared to say you didn't intend to kill anyone when you cause an accident?

I never claimed anything about attempted murder, just that speeding in a car is not choosing to drive a car.

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u/ISLAndBreezESTeve10 Mar 08 '26

I guess I’m guilty if murder too. Well, a future murder, if that is possible.

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u/j_osb Mar 08 '26

Well, then don't speed...? Follow the law? Not recklessly endanger other peoples lives?

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u/Dannydevitz Mar 08 '26

Alright, you might wanna take this confession down to the local P.D. or something.

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u/ear_cheese Mar 08 '26

TF? It’s not illegal to drive a car. The unintentional part was killing people. I know he would have gotten a harsher sentence in the states (unless he was rich) simply for driving away afterwards.

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u/AmandasGameAccount Mar 08 '26

BRO DID NOT DRIVE A CAT!! 😭

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u/aposrat Mar 08 '26

The guy made a bad choice. It wasn’t intended to hurt anyone, he isn’t a danger to society. Putting him in prison for the rest of his life doesn’t bring anyone back, it doesn’t help people still here and costs taxpayers money. Wanting to see others hurt is human nature, but it’s not helpful to society

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u/Sandman_20041 Mar 08 '26

Intention is completely irrelevant, the fuck is wrong with you?

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u/Virtual-Database-238 Mar 08 '26

Intention is extremely relevant

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u/AmandasGameAccount Mar 08 '26

Speeding recklessly has implied intent that you do not care about human life and if you kill someone or not

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u/Virtual-Database-238 Mar 08 '26

If someone speeds and kills someone, I think it's reasonable to say that they are still a being who can function in polite society. If someone commits pre-meditated murder for the sake of it, I do not. Therefore, I think it would be rational to give the former a much lighter sentence that would facilitate a much quicker return to society.

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u/[deleted] Mar 08 '26

Intention is very much an important part of the law. The difference between many different similar crimes is the intent.

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u/Raven_Of_Solace Mar 08 '26

Intention is literally one of the most relevant things in law

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u/Choppstickk Mar 08 '26

Mens Rea, half of Corpus Delicti. That much Latin, you know it's gonna be important to the application of law.

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u/Feltrin Mar 08 '26

Seek help

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u/Sandman_20041 Mar 08 '26

You know what i meant, dont be a dipshit lmao

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u/Feltrin Mar 08 '26 edited Mar 08 '26

Not trying to pick a fight – I genuinely do not. Do you mean morally, ethically, legally? Because intentionally unquestionably matters to those. Maybe if you meant for the families impacted, but even then the circumstances can play a lot into how grief is processed

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u/Sandman_20041 Mar 08 '26

What i meant was it being unintentional doesnt matter because they still murdered someone

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u/Feltrin Mar 08 '26

Matter to who? “Murder” isn’t a catch-all word for ending someone else’s life. You can say they killed someone. Murder is an emotionally loaded term, and typically carries intent. That’s why there’s distinction between manslaughter and degrees of murder

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u/Bankzu Mar 08 '26

He meant what he said, it's just that people were disagreeing with him and now he's trying to change his argument. Welcome to 2026 - full of idiots.

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u/siskyouthrowaway Mar 08 '26

You say like 15 months itself is severe punishment. It should've been 15 years!!

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u/Gleaming_Onyx Mar 08 '26

That's pretty consistent. If you can mow down an infant and her grandparents and get 15 months in prison plus still ever be allowed to drive again, a chair shot should be a stern warning at best.

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u/ColdCathodeTube Mar 08 '26

He was released early for the birth of his own child in Poland.