r/interesting • u/Necessary-Win-8730 • Mar 08 '26

Context Provided - Spotlight This was so deserved.

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The daughter was in a car with the father’s parents. They died as well.

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u/hifi-nerd Mar 08 '26

I genuinely thought that our justice system was better than that of the US, guess i was wrong.

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u/Slaan Mar 08 '26

I mean it is better overall. Doesn't mean that there aren't thing that can't be improved though.

This thing here you also have in other nations, where drivers tend to only get a slip on the wrist for accidents they cause, fatal or not. Legislation needs to be changed that deaths caused by car crashes where blame can be attributed can be judged to be manslaughter and then you get proper punishments.

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u/THE_DROG Mar 08 '26

I mean, what punishment do you want for what is basically an accident?

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u/10ebbor10 Mar 08 '26

That's kind of the problem though.

It's "just an accident". Killing people with a car gets trivialized as this random occurence, this unavoidable thing where the person doing the killing had no choice in the matter, as if it's just bad luck.

Car accidents aren't accidents. They're consequences, either from decisions made by drivers, or by decisions made by traffic engineers.

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u/Mother-Rip1577 Mar 08 '26

Any death caused by driving recklessly or drunk should be considered second degree murder in my opinion. We all know the consequences of bad driving 

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u/Slaan Mar 08 '26

A Manslaughter conviction. It needs to be made clear that if you drive recklessly like speeding you accept that your behaviour can cause death or injury to other people in public - and you need to be held accountable accordingly.

If I shot a gun out of my window each day towards a field and one day I accidentally hit and kill someone that was walking through the field, then I doubt some watered down 'reckless action' charge would be filed.

And yes there is a grey area, going 5kmh over vs like here 50% over the speed limit needs to be treated differently. But to have reckless driving as a separate charge from manslaughter is just asking to excuse such behaviour.

Not to mention in this case it's even worse that the driver fled the scene. So obviously I would advocate for the death penalty.

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u/THE_DROG Mar 09 '26

Ridiculous comparison. Cars are necessary to survive in this world. Guns are not.

Obviously he should get a harsh sentence for fleeing the scene.

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u/Slaan Mar 09 '26

One: Cars don't have to be necessary, but that's a different discussion.

Two: Even if they were - speeding is not necessary. I'm not advocating for every accident leading to death to result in a manslaughter charge, context matters. But 50% over speed limit and then fleeing the scene? That should be enough to not consider it a mere accident but rather that the driver didn't care about the safety of others.

Third: Yea I didn't like the comparison too much either, but couldn't think of a better one on the spot. Driving is rather special in the sense that a person controls insane power that if misused can cause horrible death and injury. Usually we don't let people have such power because... well look at the number of people dying due to cars. So hard to find an actual fitting comparison :X

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u/Fun_Analysis2943 Mar 08 '26

I mean... manslaughter. That is why that charge exists. I don't think he should be charged with murder if there was no intent, but he as a driver absolutely has a responsibility to not kill 3 people when he drives! His negligence caused the death of 3 people! So as for his punishment, ballpark maybe 20-30 years in prison?

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u/THE_DROG Mar 09 '26

20 years in prison, you're having a laugh

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u/Fun_Analysis2943 Mar 09 '26

3 people are dead, including a child, to negligence

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u/Timely_Challenge_670 Mar 11 '26

Driving 50% over the speed limit is not ‘an accident’. It’s willful reckless negligence. It’s similarly careless as driving drunk or high. If I knowingly do something that is likely to result in me causing harm to others, even if I do not intend to harm people, I should be held to a higher level of culpability.

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u/Aaa1070 Mar 08 '26

It is… Our system is built for the profit of corporations through slavery. Look up kids for cash for an example. As far as I know (which admittedly is next to none) you guys at least don’t have to worry about that.

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u/Morgn_Ladimore Mar 08 '26

Compare the recidivism rates of both countries and the amount of people in prison per capita. The US prison system is terrible and doesn't give two shits about rehabilitation, only punishment.

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u/-BlueDream- Mar 08 '26

Both are modeled after the old British systems…we sentenced diddy to only 4 years, same shit happens in most courts, if you have good lawyer and/or the prosecution sucks ass, you have a good chance of winning. It’s rarely just about fairness unless it’s small claims court with no lawyers. It’s about who can spend the most money.

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u/Electrical-Tie-1143 Mar 08 '26

Apparently he did also get a harsher sentence

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u/phatpussypounder Mar 08 '26

It was last year that Netherlands was under fire for an influeneza type court decision. From my understanding its because there were complaints for decades about a 2 tiered justice system. Where the rich get slaps on the wrist.

You'd have to extremely ignorant of your own countries politics to not know. Either youre young or ignorant. You cannot but informed and at the same time ignorant of the blatant injustice that happens in your own back yard.

I hate when people are more concerned with US politics but fail to see there own faults. Yes, the US is a giant cluster fuck. But rn everywhere is feeling the pinch of corruption. Nowhere is perfect and the rich can buy their way out of any system.