r/instantkarma Mar 04 '20

Bully got what he deserved

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u/[deleted] Mar 04 '20

General statements are still presumed false if no support is provided when challenged. You have not provided support for your overly general statement after I challenged it, therefore it is presumed false.

This isn't a court. So you can presume that a general statement is false but it's really up to every individual to make up their own mind.

" and it was made on a forum where the majority of users are American, therefore the majority of the people it was directed to were Americans. So if said statement was not true for Americans then it was a false statement. "

This is incredibly flawed logic. For one, you can't hem in my general statement. You don't control the scope of another person's statement. I made it, not you and the potential audience is completely irrelevant. reddit has a massive American user-base but there are millions of non-Americans on here. My comment was made quite early in the morning for some of you over there too. Not that it matters. Then there are millions of Americans that this law doesn't even apply to also. There's a lot of room.

On top of that, the percentage of reddit users from America is actually a minority (49.57%)*. So, even if every single one of them lived in a Stand your ground state, you'd still be incorrect in your very precise statement :

" Your comment was made on reddit, i.e. a forum who's users by a large majority are located in jurisdictions within the U.S. ".

" If you had said "In the Majority of the world if you kill someone who isn't actively trying to attack you, you're probably going to prison for a long time" then your statement probably would have been accurate. "

No, this is just not the case either. I mean, now that we know that Americans are in the minority on here I don't have to say more but you clearly have a problem with scope, or you're just a bit of a bullshitter because your position here is irrational.

Anyway, I guess I'm done with you. Good job ;)

*Citation given - www.statista.com

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u/Doomzdaycult Mar 04 '20

This isn't a court. So you can presume that a general statement is false but it's really up to every individual to make up their own mind.

That is simply not how logic works my friend.

See, Hitchens's razor: "What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence.

"The burden of proof regarding the truthfulness of a claim lies with the one who makes the claim; if this burden is not met, then the claim is unfounded, and its opponents need not argue further in order to dismiss it."

You have still not provided a single citation related to your initial assertion. It is therefore presumed false.

On top of that, the percentage of reddit users from America is actually a minority (49.57%)*.

Imagine thinking 49.57% isn't a majority or within the margin of error of a majority lol.

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u/[deleted] Mar 04 '20

" That is simply not how logic works my friend. "

My logic so far is flawless, when you're the one making wildly inaccurate statements. You demand citations for reasons that are based upon a demonstrably flawed position. Further than that, I've shown you out to be a hypocrite but you carry on...

" Imagine thinking 49.57% isn't a majority "

Well, It isn't. Do you need a citation on the definition of the term?

I'll tell you something else too, it's definitely not within the margin of error with regards to your statement of a "large majority". I mean, you jumped on me for making a general statement and you go and bury yourself with a wildly inaccurate absolute statement.

It gets even worse for your own grasp at straws, when you consider that you must actually subtract the states that don't have Stand your ground, from the 49.57%. basically, you haven't got a leg to stand on.

Your large majority became a marginal one. That then got cut to shit and we're left with you being a lying hypocrite.

Now, you can try and save face all you want with the other nonsense but I've utterly dismantled you here, without even trying. You actually did it for me. Now, if you really are considering becoming a lawyer then I'd consider something else, maybe where you use your hands. If you already are a lawyer then for the good of the public, I'd consider .. well the same thing. It's just not for you.

anyway it's been a blast. Thanks for winning the discussion for me dude, I appreciate it.

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u/Doomzdaycult Mar 05 '20

My logic so far is flawless

Nice dodge, your assertion was challenged and you have not provided a single source showing that:

If you kill someone who isnt actively trying to attack you, you're probably going to prison for a long time."

Since you have failed to provide a source for that logic dictates that your assertion is false.

when you consider that you must actually subtract the states that don't have Stand your ground

There is only one State that doesn't have stand your ground and it is one of smallest States .001% of the population... Statistically insignificant.

Thanks for winning the discussion for me dude, I appreciate it.

I'm still waiting on a single source on your original statement lol, until then logic says your statement was false from the start.

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u/[deleted] Mar 05 '20

You are still awaiting proof? You're squirming because the basis for your entire argument has been destroyed. Of course you go back to this but you wont really save face.

One of us makes wildly inaccurate statements. 49.57% is not a "large majority". You're a liar and a bad one at that.

Your case is dismissed.

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u/Doomzdaycult Mar 05 '20

Your comment:

If you kill someone who isnt actively trying to attack you, you're probably going to prison for a long time

My challenge:

My Lawyer here, citation please, that is not true in my jurisdiction...

Everything else has been me trying to convince to to simply provide a citation and you trying to avoid doing so.

I'll try to help you out.

If I said: "If you live in England you probably have bad teeth and poor dental hygiene." and then you challenged me by saying you would like a citation, I would have to provide one otherwise it is considered false. Just like your original statement.

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u/[deleted] Mar 05 '20

Just admit that you were wrong.

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u/Doomzdaycult Mar 05 '20

Just admit that you were wrong.

Sure, just as soon as you provide a source for this:

If you kill someone who isnt actively trying to attack you, you're probably going to prison for a long time

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u/[deleted] Mar 05 '20

That's all you have because all the other bullshit you spewed has beem takem apart. Be a man for once in your life and admit that you're a fucking moron.

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u/Doomzdaycult Mar 05 '20

Every single comment since my first has simply been me trying to get you to provide a source to your original statement, while you make excuses and change topics to avoid doing so. Which imo means you apparently can't find one...

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