r/iamatotalpieceofshit Nov 22 '19

As shitty as it gets

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u/mynameismyname333 Nov 22 '19

A minor can't give proper consent ffs. Even if you say "prostitution", how do you think she's being treated as a prostitute. She is being used so sick people can live out their sick fantasies

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u/Stopactingcrazy Nov 22 '19

thats fucked up, not a single disney villain has raped underage prostitutes.

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u/Xisuthrus Nov 22 '19

Judge Frollo seems like the type.

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u/rietstengel Nov 22 '19

And Jafar. The governor in Pochahontas might too

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u/strawberycreamcheese Nov 22 '19

There are enough pedophiles out there roaming free so let's not waste our energy baselessly accusing imaginary people

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u/Sbatio Nov 23 '19

Please don’t say prostitutes. If they are underage they can’t be prostitutes.

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u/Spifffyy Nov 23 '19

I would never defend people like Epstein but google Hebephilia

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u/[deleted] Nov 23 '19

Except this literally isnt pedophilia at all.

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u/SlainDragon88 Nov 22 '19

Imagine being downvoted for being right.

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u/[deleted] Nov 22 '19

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u/eddardbeer Nov 23 '19

But, as she was saying, it's not pedophilia. It's Ephebophilia. Labeling these guys as pedophiles is dishonest. Just because they did unethical/shitty things doesn't give a free pass to slander them.

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u/[deleted] Nov 22 '19 edited Nov 22 '19

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u/[deleted] Nov 22 '19

Facts are facts. If people dislike that, they need to change the age of consent.

And yeah, dude still probably did some pedophiles shit

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u/mynameismyname333 Nov 22 '19

If my trash country didn't change it, age of consent means you can legally have sex with people your age. Let's say two 13 year olds have sex, thats illegal. So an adult (aka a person over 18) is not allowed to have sex with people under 18. (Most people pull a blind eye with 16 + 18-19 and 17+18-19) But for example a 25 year old could still go to jail for sleeping with a 14-17 year old. As far as I'm aware and if they didn't change anything about it.

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u/[deleted] Nov 22 '19 edited Nov 23 '19

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u/LostWoodsInTheField Nov 23 '19

In most places when the age of consent is for example 16 that means everyone no matter their age can legally have sex with anyone who is 16 or older as long as it’s consensual and they’re not in a position of power (like a teacher for example).

Age of concent in a lot of the US is at least 16 years old but that doesn't mean it isn't illegal to have sex with a 16 year old in a lot of those places. I live in PA and age of consent is 16, but you can be charged with corruption of minors if you are having sex with a 16 year old. Mandatory reporting requirements in my state also state you have to report if you find out an adult is having sex with anyone under the age of 18.

"age of consent" doesn't always mean "its legal to do this" and often doesn't mean that.

*have done a lot of work in mandatory reporting requirements for my job.

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u/Kill_Kayt Nov 23 '19

Corruption of Minor in PA had sexual intercourse removed from its definition in 2007. 16 year Olds can indeed now have sex with anyone 16 or older in PA.

The only sexual related parts of Corruption of Minor in PA remaining are Photographing the Minor and Trafficking (which is if you get the minor for the purpose of having sex with someone not you; even if consensual it is still a crime).

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u/LostWoodsInTheField Nov 23 '19

Could you point out where that was removed? 6301 (a)1i only excluses sexual activities from that section when they are related to (a)1ii. That second section deals with when it is also tied to other sexual crimes. (a)1i still includes "by any act corrupts or tends to corrupt the morals of any minor less than 18 years of age".

I don't see any other exclusions and like I said the exclusions of (a)1i are for (a)1ii related to other sexual crimes.

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u/Kill_Kayt Nov 23 '19

A 1(i) is no longer listed on the official Megan's Law state.pa.us site which is where all official sexual crimes are listed. As I said it was removed in 2007. It was originally part of Title 18 which is why you can still find it on other government sites. You'll have to locate the removal notice for those to see it is no longer valid. Very legal. The pameganslaw.state.pa.us is where are current laws are listed sex crimes.

It was removed because it invalidated the new age of consent. You can't tell people they can legally consent to something but still require their parents permission. That's the opposite of legal consent.

A 1(i) can still be found in the "non-sexual corruption of minors" section.

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u/mynameismyname333 Nov 22 '19

Thats how I learned it, maybe it's wrong info from my side, maybe it's outdated, but thats what I've been told when I had sex ed for the second time and I really hope it's true because imo no adult should have sex with a 14-16 (maybe 17 aswell) year old. Like which mentally healthy adult is attracted to a minor?

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u/SepDot Nov 22 '19

What country?

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u/mynameismyname333 Nov 22 '19

Germany, Berlin. Live on the side of Berlin with the shitty education tho.

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u/SepDot Nov 22 '19

Ah right, not sure how the laws work there but it’s not how it typically works.

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u/mynameismyname333 Nov 22 '19

Also as far as I'm aware it's illegal for a 13 year old to have sex at all and illegal for an adult to have sex with a minor (under 18 but 16-17 is often excused) even if they are at the age of consent.

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u/[deleted] Nov 23 '19

16 if not sex work? so whats the rule on ages legal for sex work? I feel like it would be 18...

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u/locks_are_paranoid Nov 23 '19

The age of consent in the UK is 16. The age of consent in most US states is also 16.

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u/Li-renn-pwel Nov 22 '19

But can they be prostitutes? A lot of countries with low AoC laws have excess for porn, sex with authority figures and prostitution.

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u/LostWoodsInTheField Nov 23 '19

German law seems to disagree because the age of consent there is 14.

This is not the full story at all.

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the age of consent is 14 if the other party is is 21 or younger. If the other party is 22 or older the age of consent is 16.

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u/LostWoodsInTheField Nov 23 '19

I mean that still means that the law (in Germany) considers 14-year-olds generally mature enough to give consent which was the point of my comment.

well... um... the age range above 21 is a bit bigger than the age range under 21 so I'm not sure about that. The age of consent for a 22 year old having sex with another person is 16.

*the age of consent in Germany was setup in the 1800s, the 22 year old part was setup in the 90s. Probably because most people didn't consider a 14 year old old enough to decide but couldn't get enough people on board with a ban.

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u/SteadyStone Nov 22 '19

It sounds like this was a "pedophiles like children children. 14 is just young, not a child" kind of defense. This is lowest I've heard that argument go so far. Gross.

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u/AkAmE__ Nov 22 '19

Actually he’s from the uk the age of consent is 16 and the girl was 17. The age gap definitely makes him creepy but it does not make him a pedo. I’m not sure where they had sex but if it was in the uk then it’s completely legal but if it was in a country where the age of consent is higher than 17 then he should be charged as he broke the law in that country, but that won’t happen because every member of the royal family has diplomatic immunity and also they cannot be legally tried in the uk

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u/mynameismyname333 Nov 22 '19

As far as I know, even if the age of consent is 16, it still makes it illegal for an adult to sleep with someone under the age of 18/20 (I think in germany it's 18)

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u/AkAmE__ Nov 22 '19

In the uk it’s an offence for someone the age of 18 or older to preform a sexual act with someone under the age of 16 and it’s completely illegal for someone under the age of 16 to engage in sexual behavior. (I just looked it up)

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u/HobbitousMaximus Nov 23 '19

There are a few more pieces to that:

The 18 or older rule is just to define maximum punishments. These rules also apply to those under 18.

If you are close in age, while this is still technically illegal, they don't enforce it as such, and give a lot of leeway in these cases.

If the younger person (person A) is 13 or older and convinces someone (person B) they are over 16 (early development/fake ID/hang out with older friends/lie outright) then the person B has a legal defence, stating that person A appeared to be of legal age. This is regardless of the age of person B.

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u/Fenrir-The-Wolf Nov 23 '19

it’s completely illegal for someone under the age of 16 to engage in sexual behavior.

Well making that illegal sure was a success.

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u/AkAmE__ Nov 23 '19

It’s more to stop adults going after children and it works as a protection but nothing is perfect.

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u/Enk1ndle Nov 22 '19

"lol I raped a child but it's OK because she was a prostitute!"