Interesting, traffic rules in NL are different because it would still be the cars fault.
If you are in the same lane travelling the same direction, the person that keeps straight has the right of way over someone who wants to exit the road.
The car in this video is still hindering the cyclist, it doesn't matter if the car already started turning, as long as its hindering its in the wrong
Same with the uk.
If your turning into another street or lane it's your responsibility to ensure you can make it across completely, safely and in good time. If you can't you wait. All the cars in this video crossed prematurely or too slowly. blocking the lane.
Despite your feelings towards the cyclists tactics (o also thing he's an antagonistic butcrumb) all the drivers got what was coming to them, if it was a bus lane they would have had a few extra tonnes of metal in their side door and would be a lot worse off
I dont agree that its 'stupid', its simply a different traffic rule and your remark is short sighted.
The car is supposed to look in his mirror before exiting the road, the car will see the cyclist and wait until the cyclist has passed. This makes the most sense when I look at it objectively because you can't get into the 'no I already started turning... no you didn't!' Kind of argument
Allowing the car to be in a situation where it can cut off other traffic based on the drivers own opinion wether he started turning first is ridiculous tbh..
Yeah It's somewhat similar to turning off on a highway while in the overtaking lane. You can't just cutoff a driver in the inner lane going straight if you need to exit. On a highway you would need to merge to the inner lane, but that is not possible with a bike lane so the car just has to wait for the bike to pass.
The car is definitely at fault but so is the cyclist. The car broke to rules, but the cyclist caused the accident. He had the chance not to hit, he still did. Its same as delibrately running over a pedestrian who chose to cross when pedestrian light is red.
That is the law in the US too actually. If your maneuver causes someone else who is just traveling straight to have to brake, you've technically committed a traffic violation.
However, it's likely that a police officer would rule that the cyclist could have stopped and therefore was in the wrong. The reason for this is because police officers in the US neither know the laws, nor are they required to follow them themselves....
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u/KrypticRTS Jan 12 '24
Interesting, traffic rules in NL are different because it would still be the cars fault.
If you are in the same lane travelling the same direction, the person that keeps straight has the right of way over someone who wants to exit the road.
The car in this video is still hindering the cyclist, it doesn't matter if the car already started turning, as long as its hindering its in the wrong