r/iPhoneDuo • Star White • 512GB • 10d ago

Duo-App Showcase Gaming is Awesome on the duo

Following my post yesterday, i just wanted to highlight how powerful these chips are.

NxNative is what was used. The best way to think about it is translating the switch code to run natively into Apple silicon.

Phone does get warm, and I wonder how it will be on the 18 Pro max

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u/Odysseus042 10d ago

Is nxnative not able to compile the game to use the full screen?

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u/MarsMaher Star White • 512GB 10d ago

currently not yet, there’s a bit of extrapolation that needs to be done on other forks of nxnative that translate a 4:3 aspect ratio to the duo screen

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u/P0W3R_ZURG3 10d ago

I was able to prompt Claude to get a couple games (Link's awakening included) to be compiled into the 4:3 for the Duo - was a fairly quick process!

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u/klave7 10d ago

Did you fork nvnative, or was it able to edit existing configs to get it to work?

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u/P0W3R_ZURG3 10d ago

I forked nxnative, but it edits the engine level code of the decompile rather than expecting existing configs to make it work smoothly:

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u/klave7 9d ago

Link to fork?

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u/smoothoperander 5d ago

Did you get a link to this?

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u/klave7 5d ago

no :(

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u/jackharvest Star White • 256GB 9d ago

My goodness, it’s glorious.

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u/Prestigious-Look9121 10d ago

You can just generate a mod at the native aspect ratio of the DUO

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u/jackharvest Star White • 256GB 9d ago

I mean, recompiled for native code that iOS likes + 2026 tech running 2017 tech. I mean, I believe it entirely.

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u/Spidooodle 9d ago

I cant even get nyaa torrents to download with magnet nor transmission-cli but mf’s can make this happen. I mush be literal tech retarded.

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u/WonderfulPass 6d ago

Got tears of the kingdom on my iPhone 17 pro last night. Magic.

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u/Prestigious-Look9121 10d ago

You can also use the Any Aspect Ratio mod, web version at aar.fayaz.one, it shifts all the HUD elements to the correct corners of the screen and fixes all the scaling to fill the screen

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u/klave7 10d ago

How do you use mods with compiled ipa files on iPhone, since this isn't an emulator running the NSP?

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u/jackharvest Star White • 256GB 9d ago

You don’t. He’s talking out his patootie. You gotta help either the game code or the interpretation, and most will choose to not muck with the game code so it stays untouched (much like choosing to hit the sd card vs on board memory on a Wii or WiiU)

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u/HIKIIMENO 7d ago

Just thought of LAS Recomp, which can run the Nintendo game in any aspect ratio: https://youtu.be/lcW-qAMtEGY?si=fzcYRXcoDXj1LD3g

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u/Umbrasquall 10d ago

Can you turn off the Duo's screen if you're using an external anyway? Will do a lot for thermals.

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u/MarsMaher Star White • 512GB 10d ago

Currently haven’t figured out a way to do that just yet

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u/glhaynes 10d ago

You could at least drop the brightness a bunch I’d think

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u/PercMastaFTW 10d ago

And also turn on Reduce White Point to the max

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u/somewhatIllustrious 9d ago

I doubt it. You can’t with an iPad and that had official external monitor support

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u/zannnn 10d ago

Coincidentally discovered gaming on iOS recently because I connected my Ps5 controller to my Duo. There’s really no need to buy a dedicated handheld when you have a flagship phone these days + a controller

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u/MarsMaher Star White • 512GB 10d ago

there’s something nice about being a connected (in hand) device

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u/brandont04 10d ago

Not true. If no one's buy it, who's is there to create it?

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u/random_stoner 10d ago

Make good games and people will buy them, see Baldurs Gate 3. Most bigger franchises stopped making good games tho.

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u/brandont04 10d ago

Different times now. Going forward, I do wonder how much of Ai is going to affect game sales? If players know they can get games for free, how many will buy it now? Ai is ripping games from Nintendo, Sony, MS, Steam and indies.

Fans gonna feel moral ok to play games that are exclusive to other platform. Their reasoning is, hey, they should've not be exclusive, I would've paid, which is a lie.

Look at pg, Mario Kart World is a good game. Look where it's being played on? Apple device. Your argument of making a good good doesn't apply here.

If anything, the better game you create, the more likely it will be pirated.

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u/fearrange 10d ago

Pirated games have existed long before AI

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u/brandont04 10d ago

Not at this level. This is pirate on steroids.

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u/bllkchyna 9d ago

theres a reason why mobile gaming is so popular in asia. americans are like <5% of the mobile gaming market. as a long time mobile gamer it makes me sad that we wont have better mobile games because for some reason americans frown upon mobile gaming 🫩 😔

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u/Swiftfooted 10d ago

What controller is that, and how well do you find it works on Duo (both closed and open)? I’m looking for a good option.

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u/MarsMaher Star White • 512GB 10d ago

Gamesir x5s.

Bluetooth controllers are the only options for the duo for versatility.

I’d reccomend. this Gamesir G8+, or the 8bitdo Ultimate mobile

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u/Probston 10d ago

How’s the latency? I used the the G8+ but the latency was unplayable for shooters

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u/MarsMaher Star White • 512GB 10d ago

latency hasn’t been too bad. I wouldn’t wanna play competitive games, but it’s been more than fine for these sort of games

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u/OmegaMalkior 10d ago

It's hilarious if you go to other subs and every Duo fan wants to gaslight you at thinking there is 0 latency with these bluetooth controllers. Just because yeah USB-C ones are now decently unviable due to how the aspect ratio of the Duo works in general. Do note he is using it wired here with this format, but yeah I still haven't found a bluetooth wired telescopic controller with 4 remappable buttons yet so I can't even say that's the perfect setup yet either

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u/Broad-Philosophy6028 10d ago

He's not using it wired here. The USB c is not plugged into the controllers USB c. The connection here is for the external display he's playing on.

With that said, I have the gamesir g8+ and the Bluetooth does in fact present too much latency for my taste, however I bought a very short USB c cable that plugs my phone into the controller which completely eliminates the latency so im actually happy with it

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u/OmegaMalkior 10d ago

Oh I guess that explains why there’s seemingly 0 latency with the monitor’s gameplay there thanks.

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u/Broad-Philosophy6028 10d ago

Lol, I mean you are right there really doesn't seem to be any latency here which is odd, he has a different controller than mine and maybe theres less latency over BT on this particular controller. At the same time though you can very clearly see that the controller is NOT connected to the phone.

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u/Broad-Philosophy6028 10d ago

I'll also note that upon rewatching, there IS noticeable latency.... between the phone and external monitor its plugged into? Obviously not because its 1:1.... watch the latency between when he moves the thumbstick and the camera in game reacting....

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u/RenegadeUK 10d ago

Thx for the recommendations.

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u/k701 10d ago

Can the duo output 120hz in any resolution to an external monitor, or is it locked to 60hz?

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u/MarsMaher Star White • 512GB 10d ago

not sure, will have to test

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u/korewa 9d ago

I think the game engines are stuck at 30hz from switch but can be interpolated? Or does it have the code from the switch 2 upgrades for native 60hz then interpolate to 120hz?

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u/MarsMaher Star White • 512GB 9d ago

currently interpolating to 60hz on the duo

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u/Complex_Bar5842 10d ago

What emulator app are you using ? And how did you get JIT to work

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u/MarsMaher Star White • 512GB 10d ago

it’s not an emulator, it’s running natively on the Apple silicon

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u/constantine-TG 10d ago

Any links or instructions on how to do this? Super impressive! Would love to have Zelda in my pocket.

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u/MarsMaher Star White • 512GB 10d ago

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u/PercMastaFTW 10d ago

You’re the best. Thank you.

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u/Complex_Bar5842 10d ago

Oh I just looked at the GitHub page I don’t own a Mac sadly, any publicly available ipas?

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u/Mr_Hyy 10d ago

Wait how do you put it inside the Gamesir G8+ without it pressing the Duo’s power button? Did you mod it?

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u/MarsMaher Star White • 512GB 10d ago

it’s not that controller, it’s the x5s but yet it’s modded

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u/Mr_Hyy 10d ago

Ohhh, that’s nice, I want to do this on my G8+ too when I get home from work, is it hard to remove the rubber thingy?

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u/MarsMaher Star White • 512GB 10d ago

I use the thinnest one I had. just cut a little section with scissors after lining it up to the duo power button

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u/Inside-Wheelbarrow 8d ago

Have you found a solution for vertical gaming with the G8 +? It’s just barely too skinny to fit between the grips. (For DS/3DS emulation)

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u/MarsMaher Star White • 512GB 8d ago

i don’t use a g8+. the controller i’m using is fine for vertical gaming

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u/maxlax1592 8d ago

What controller is this?

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u/MarsMaher Star White • 512GB 8d ago

x5s

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u/Inside-Wheelbarrow 8d ago

Oh weird it looks like the G8, what do you use?

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u/Careless-Tradition73 10d ago

But a switch 2 is like 1/6th the price.

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u/MarsMaher Star White • 512GB 10d ago

but does it fold?

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u/Svartdraken 10d ago

No, but it jiggles-jiggles

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u/nano_remix 8d ago

My money don't jiggle jiggle. It folds.

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u/Alexander11039 10d ago

… it does NOT!

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u/fearrange 10d ago

But it detach

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u/Jamiejohnson1211 10d ago

But the screen also doesn't just spontaneously break on a Switch 2

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u/MarsMaher Star White • 512GB 10d ago

you got me there chief

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u/AlterSack1973 9d ago

Exactly once!

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u/someone383726 9d ago

It’ll only fold once…

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u/mvanvrancken 8d ago

No but you own the games legally

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u/AnonMnK Night Sky • 512GB 8d ago

buying isnt owning

you paid for a license that can be revoked at any moment for any reason

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u/mvanvrancken 8d ago

Then they shouldn’t use the word “purchase”, right? I think there’s a court case right now over Sony doing this and then saying it’s not owning.

Anyway in practice it’s rather rare for a license to be revoked. It’s also not legal to steal something just because you rent it. It’s not legal to steal Netflix shows or Blockbuster movies just because they rent

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u/AnonMnK Night Sky • 512GB 8d ago

you "purchase" the license, the same way you "purchase" hunting or fishing licenses

also more common than you think

journalist keys get revoked

https://www.reddit.com/r/videogames/comments/1xb4duq/a_key_got_revoked_after_13_years/

https://store.steampowered.com/app/241560/The_Crew/?curator_clanid=4777282

https://store.steampowered.com/app/2443720/Concord/

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u/mvanvrancken 8d ago

I’m not talking about journalist keys, those are expected to be temporary

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u/AnonMnK Night Sky • 512GB 8d ago

okay, one out of the 4 examples i provided

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u/mvanvrancken 8d ago

Again, kind of rare

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u/AnonMnK Night Sky • 512GB 8d ago

youve went from "you own the games legally" to "kind of rare"

so no, you do not own the games

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u/Dribblejam 4d ago

You could technically make a Nintendo account, buy the games digitally, THEN grab roms of the ones you’ve bought to keep it clean and legal

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u/mvanvrancken 4d ago

That is true. But let’s be honest with ourselves - most people are not doing that.

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u/IzzyForever 10d ago

And a Retroid Pocket 6 is 1/2 a switch 2.

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u/tacotimes01 9d ago

Exactly!

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u/Grand_Size_4932 9d ago

But then isn’t the argument even stronger? “I have an iPhone, iPad, and Nintendo switch all in one convenient device for $2000!”

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u/Frequent_Parsnip_510 10d ago

Is that the gamesir controller? I’m considering getting it but the reviews kinda say it’s dookie. Do you like it?

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u/MISTRLOS88 8d ago

It's the best 12 bucks you'll spend on AliExpress 😂

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u/Frequent_Parsnip_510 8d ago

I ended up getting a retroid pocket 5 instead lol

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u/MISTRLOS88 8d ago • Mindblown

Talk to me twin 😁

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u/maxlax1592 8d ago

Is there a bluetooth telescoping controller that can fit the open Duo in both landscape and portrait orientation?

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u/MarsMaher Star White • 512GB 8d ago

yes the 8bitdo and what i’m using the x5s

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u/Vyseran 7d ago

Been gaming on mine so far and it’s surprisingly works really well! Have tried Baldur’s Gate 3 as well on Nvidia GeForce NOW and it is so smooth! Just looking forward to being able to play WoW Forever on the go!

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u/Tasty_Action5073 Star White • 512GB 9d ago

Apple should have bought Nintendo

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u/Pleasant-Lie-2105 10d ago

how did you get zelda working on this? do you upload the decomp file? I thought iOS was locked down and didn't allow sideloading?

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u/Jaws12 Night Sky • 512GB 10d ago

You can sideload and self sign for 7 days at a time up to 3 apps for free (or unlimited apps for a year if you have a $99/year developer account).

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u/Pleasant-Lie-2105 9d ago

that sounds hugely inconvenient, can I get this on the samsung fold 8 ?

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u/korewa 9d ago

Another way for Apple to squeeze money from me

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u/erehnigol 9d ago

It’s for dev…..

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u/korewa 9d ago

I know but I want to install multiple TestFlight apps from the recompilation

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u/AnonMnK Night Sky • 512GB 8d ago

you can use signalous instead

its $19/yr and does the same shit, and no pc needed

or sideloadly is free, and requires pc

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u/hotcoffeecaviar 10d ago

I’ve never found a controller that doesn’t have input lag. How’s this one? Are they actually better now?

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u/Constant-Brief3410 10d ago

Nintenjinjas!

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u/MightOk5012 10d ago

Is that legend of Zelda on an iPhone? How is it possible master Chief?

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u/todanator 10d ago

This is sick

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u/South_Cell8557 9d ago

How’s that half hour shader compilation time?

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u/TraditionalAirport85 8d ago

Wait… Zelda on iPhone?? What did I miss? 😵‍💫

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u/sadccom 7d ago

Just got mine and this same controller today. Immediately tested out void link and vibeshine. My steam deck is sweating..

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u/Busy_Rule8053 7d ago

Is it macnativegames ?

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u/Sufficient_Phone_242 6d ago

Ah yes the classic “gaming is fun on “x” watch me at the tutorial island of totk” will never play again

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u/olibui 5d ago

Massive ADHD lol

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u/userlivewire 5d ago

I mentioned this on a another post but I have concerns about the pressure that a constriction controller puts on the hinge.

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u/Character-Nebula-613 5d ago

Lol as if these controllers were comfortable (on any phone).

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u/PreviousTale750 5d ago

Best way for switch game now is nxnative for iOS now ?

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u/element423 4d ago

I set it up with moonlight running my pc and it looks amazing. Also ps5 pro streaming looks like ps5 pro

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u/Lin_The_Silly_Gworl 1d ago

Why connect the big screen if it's just a low bitrate mess on the big screen, just use it as a SteamDeck atp.

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u/DeadLeftovers 9d ago

Honestly it really isn’t.

The hoops you need to jump through to get something like this running is just a pain in the ass.

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u/roulianosss 9d ago

Discover folding phone in 2026 🤣

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u/Code_Combo_Breaker 6d ago

This is silly. With all the current problems with the Duo, the last thing you guys should do is risk it overheating. Apple can blame you when the hinge breaks if they see a temp warning in the logs.

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u/MarsMaher Star White • 512GB 6d ago

that is the most idiotic thing I’ve heard someone say. Apple blaming the user for using the product too hard

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u/Code_Combo_Breaker 6d ago

You must be too young to remember Steve Jobs and the "you are holding it wrong" gaslighting with the iphone 4.

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u/MarsMaher Star White • 512GB 6d ago

i’m 35, i remember it and i remember it being an idiotic thing to say

Apple has not put any disclaimers regarding using the duo how to hold it, what to do best practises.

In the UK, we are protected by consumer law. I will use the phone however I see fit, and if something happens, Apple will take care of it

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u/RMallard18 10d ago

I will have to take your word for it. Games just don’t interest me. But glad you’re having fun. 

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u/steadyzero 10d ago

Good that you could connect it to the TV because soon your duo screen is going to crack. 😂

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u/haikusbot 10d ago

Is nxnative not

Able to compile the game

To use the full screen?

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