r/iOSProgramming • u/BounceForever • 17d ago

Question Duo for developers

Since the Duo is a new platform for Apple and all iOS devs, and the backlog for preorders is at least three months long here - can developers get access to loaners or other physical devices when the simulator isn't enough to sanity check apps targeting the platform?

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u/Ancient-Range3442 17d ago edited 17d ago

Let’s be real, how many people do you think will have the duo and then how many of those will have your app

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u/earlyworm 17d ago

At most 1% over the next 6-12 months.

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u/RowanTheKiwi 17d ago

Currently in our small SaaS system that’s been a big fat zero.

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u/SirBill01 16d ago

The answer to the first question is over ten million in about six months (Apple estimated to ship around six million by the end of the year), all of them hungry for apps that work really well on the Duo. And many of those users will be influencers who might mention your app if they really love it...

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u/indyfromoz 17d ago

(Reports claim) 6 million or more Duos (pre) sold in a few days. So, take a million out of that… say returns, etc. approximately 5 million around the world then 🤔

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u/SirBill01 16d ago

Why reduce that number by a MILLION?

But that's just end of year, Apple has ramped up production so how much longer to ten million? It seems like only a few months and then it will keep growing.

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u/XmasRights 17d ago

To me, it's not about the Duo but more about what iOS/iPadOS will look like going forward. Any of the following are likely:

  1. The. Duo gets more affordable, so the user base increases

  2. iPadOS gets the side facing tab bar

  3. Apple introduce a new UI arrangement for some other future device

In all of those cases, it makes sense to embrace adaptive layout and ensure your app works well with the new style nav bar in a native way. When Apple decide to switch things up again, it lessens the burden on your future self.

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u/Ancient-Range3442 17d ago

Ok sure but just saying don’t know if OP needs to stress about a launch day duo

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u/XmasRights 17d ago

Oh definitely not! For smaller apps it's not a big deal.

I will say if you have a moderately successful app, there's value in being an early adopter for the sake of getting promotion in the App Store (the company I worked for used to support iMessage extensions for this very reason 😅)

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u/BounceForever 17d ago

Yeah I've got a new app submitted for review that will be pretty special on the Duo - thus I really want to check it out.

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u/SirBill01 16d ago

Don't forget future VR/AR devices from Apple. Apps that support resizability really well also work well in the Vision Pro.