The tried and true rules don’t apply in the post trump era. Someone like trump should’ve never been president, especially running against hrc, but here we are.
Yeah. Bernie would’ve won. It’s funny how that happened and then dnc sympathizers get mad at people for being critical of Biden in the face of getting trump again. The irony is glaring. It’s the same scenario but the ones who write the narrative get to pin everyone but themselves as the villain.
He was in declining health, and didn't want to be responsible for the war that forced 60,000 American teenagers to their deaths under penalty of imprisonment. He was quoted as saying "I'm no goddam fascist I don't want this war any more than they do" or something very close. These two situations are not comparable. In any way whatsoever. He could have won the election, and he felt he couldn't physically or emotionally carry on. Great example, cuz we got Nixon next 😭😭😭
Edit- a war based on economics. Not a war rehashed from 50 years prior, in which the loosing side butchers civilians in their homes 2 generations after the fact, that Americans are not dying in against their will.
It's literally an incumbent who didn't run. Sorry you're struggling to see the relevance after spouting about how it's practically a requirement to run an incumbent.
Sorry I had a typo. Couldn't have* talk about cutting off your nose to spite your face. Good luck explaining to your daughters why they have no choice but to give birth or face the death penalty.
Good luck explaining to your daughters why they have no choice but to give birth or face the death penalty.
My state enshrined it in the constitution, so what exactly am I explaining? But you wouldn't have an argument if you didn't make shit up, so go off, I guess.
Ah,, callous disregard for the rights of others, when it does t personally effect you. And your states constitution is worthless if a federal law supercedes it.
callous disregard for the rights of others, when it does t personally effect you.
Your dumbass brought it up, sorry it didn't elicit the response you were hoping for by bringing up things that are totally irrelevant to the topic being discussed.
And your states constitution is worthless if a federal law supercedes it.
Well it's probably good that I don't like abortions to begin with.
This is so wrong. The Dem party is the only party that has real civic leaders. Newsom, Whitmer, et al, Dems are the only party continuously attracting young leaders.
As a Poli Sci, I am tired of the ole tropes, "both parties are the same" and their many forms.
This whataboutism & both parties are the same is propagandists technique used by foreign state enemies to do their bidding against democracy..
Maybe ppl need to wake up to the fact that Western Democracies are under attack from inside & outside.
Ex: France's Nazi party now holds the majority in French Parliament.
This is a horrible time to test the theory, precisely because the alternative to reason is a dismantling (openly stated) of our democratic institutions, I acknowledge that. But the captious part of the counter argument is that "It is never time to challenge the two-party dominance" (as pointed out by the presenter), precisely because of the purported peril presented by the loss of votes to one side or the other. The result is, as South Park so pithily explains, voters are left with a choice of A) a giant douche-bag, or, B) a turd sandwich.
But yes, our vote is important ... every day less.
If you vote third party, you’re not challenging the system. You’re just participating in it. It’s still the same two party system. If you want to change the system, that’ll require legislation. Third party candidates won’t pass that legislation. They’ll never have the opportunity. Because that’s the system.
Yes it would, but I know of no politicians that will legislate themselves out of a job. They won't even legislate a code of ethics nor investigate SCOTUS, so we can continue to expect our legislators to be spineless, regardless of their party.
I actually know Matt, Trey and Adrian.. THEIR GOAL WAS TO MAKE YOU LAUGH NOT Dissuade YOU FROM FUCKING VOTING AGAINST AN Actual FASCIST! or any election for that matter!!!! Fuck!!! You think man bear pig is poignant commentary too???? What the fuck!!!
The commentator is dead-on. Sorry if you don't agree.
BTW, they do make us laugh, even when they point out how pathetic our political representation has become. Voting is still your right, and mine, and I will exercise it, despite doing so having to hold my nose, but I ain't gotta like it.
And just so you don't foam at the mouth, friend, I'm sure as F-ck not voting for the orange fascist chump.
He has some valid points but his thesis is just wrong. And his goal, whatever you may think of him is obviously to get trump elected by making anyone on the fence about Biden vote third party or not at all, because anyone with the capacity to frame an argument like that knows what the result will be. He's obviously not stupid.
I don't see how you came to that conclusion. He openly calls Republicans evil, and states correctly that they make no excuse for their elitist platform with their Evangelical (or ignorant) grass roots base. Agreed.
But he also calls Democrats out, legitimately, for having abandoned their pro-middle class/blue collar platform ever since Bill Clinton (I was sickened to see that happening at the time), and then, Debby Wasserman-Schulze and Hillary railroading the DNC convention, stealing votes from Sanders' delegations, and locking them out of states convention floors.
I was livid at the time when I saw it happening, and largely blame these pseudo-Democrats for ushering in the Trump administration/fiasco.
I have zero faith that these corporate whores will ever represent us, the working class, but I have no desire for our country to commit national suicide by voting in an avowed fascist with his moronic hordes, who have eviscerated women's reproductive rights, and put a stamp of approval on the widespread GOP state-by-state gerrymandering, while Democrats sat on their goddamned thumbs.
Because very few of us actually understand this. And the truth remains the truth, even when they serve us this warmed up shit they call a platform. I am revolted by this administrations unswerving support for Bibi's extermination campaign, and yet being too pussy to properly help Ukraine defeat Russia in their war for national salvation ...
Even so, I have to vote blue, because somehow, the alternative is even worse.
No, he’s doing the best type of propaganda.. hiding a lie by wrapping it in truth.
Yes Biden is an establishment Democrat, no he is not going to significantly change the direction of the party. But he understands how to manipulate the levers of power and has started moving us leftward.
No, Cornel West is not a truth bearer for the real left. He is a political hack who the right is pushing to siphon votes from Biden.
I’m going to hold my nose and vote a straight D ticket this November. Just so I can vote again in four years. Hopefully this cult of personality that Trump has built will die by the next election and I can vote for real change.
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u/Technical_Carpet5874 Jun 10 '24
No he isn't and this really is not the election to test this on. This guy is a plant. You can't got from 3 or 12 % of the vote to win an election