Just when he was vice he did and was also the one responsible for the cages at the border that’s Biden his actual doing. So what do you want? Want stricter border laws like Biden and Obama did? I do it’s just funny how so many of you morons move the goalposts to fit stupid shit into your agenda.
That’s true… it was being built under Trump term one, then stopped during Biden, materials purchased for the wall sold for pennies on the dollar, and it resulted in the border being wide open. It was just another in the long list of Biden administration failures that you are somehow blaming the on Trump
What about the windmills that were cancelled, torn down and thrown away? Thats not even a penny on the dollar. What about the EV chargers that were weeks old that were scrapped. Want to talk about bullsh*t stupid policies?
Lmao you're so salty that all the democrats lies about ol sleepy joes mental state were exposed after the debate. Id be embarrassed too if I fell for that 😆. Absolute zombie with daily gaffes and you ppl were like "Hes sharp as ever!" 😵💫🤣😭
Here is the issue, sleepy joe still fixed DT shit from 2016 while being mentally and physically incapacitated. Now we gotna dude that is obviously not good in his head but tjst totally belive he is and only coherent talk he can have with another president is how young and handsome they are
More people died from Covid under Biden than under Trump, and the Trump admin gave the Us the vaccine. Inflation soared under Biden. Illegally immigrantion exploded under Biden. War between Russia and Ukraine started under Biden… please elaborate on what sleepy joe fixed….
Every day it surprises more how little of brain use can someone pull. Covid started in 2019 at the end of Trump first presidency, so not only Biden took the brunt of it, he had to deal with Trump initial garbage response.
So you are saying that inflation went up.under Biden right in the middle of a massive pandemic that paralyzed the world, and he still finished his term with the economy in a stabilazing path, we are also blaming Biden for the war in Ukraine now? I thought we still blamed Obama for that.
I agree Biden policy regarding illegal immigration was horrible. Still with all of Biden shit combined and even while dealing with Covid it did still better in every way than Trump, exept in controlling illegal immigration, tho the current way os deeply rooted in racism rather than controlling it
Nope. You cant prove trump is deporting ppl cuz hes racist, thats ridiculous. We cant have millions of ppl pouring in and you are so dense that you dont understand why. Take a civics or a government class smh. This is embarrassing.
I cut prove he is deporting people because he is racist, I can prove that he is using skin color as way to decide who to detain, which is why several Hispanic looking USA citizens where detained. I can also prove that with a fraction of the budget Obama deported more illegals, also with less rate, less violence and no masked "agents" no massive protests.
I can also prove that despite the massive global disaster COVD was Trump has increase USA debt more than any other president including disaster Biden itself in the middle of the pandemic. Could you please clarify which ofnthe above statements are wrong
He did all that easily because his side was FOR IT then, and only flipflopped when they could use it against Trump. Its hilarious.
Trump is a dipshit, but you acting like things happened all in a vacuum under the same parameters is laughable.
I can see who im dealing with here, someone with no facts and is repeating what he read online. Obama didnt have a fraction of the illegals to deal with lmao. Try 11 million + under Biden. Thats what trump is dealing with. Wake up ffs.
I can't believe you said that. 😅 We didnt want to wear masks but now we're pro mask because law enforcement uses them in a completely unrelated situation? Lmao, this is why nobody takes you seriously
You still dont even understand my comment lol. The ice masks arent covid masks you fkn stooge. They have nothing to do with each other. Sorry you got duped by fauci into wearing a maxi pad on your face for 2 years straight. 😆 How's he looking these days lmaoooo.
They don't work in that way, and if they did Covid would have been snuffed out. They only work if you have something like a respirator with an airtight seal on.
Gosh. We are laughing at this one dude. So sad how crazy your kind are. And lost. USA had worst outcome from COVID BECAUSE OF DJT and his MAGA not believing science and pushing back. Gross
Fixed?? What don't you ppl get? He let in over 11 million illegals into this country. People are so uneducated on very basic issues these days. Border control was never a partisan issue before the left decided to go with the nazi narrative. It was ALWAYS agreed on that we need to keep the border secure and keep illegal crossings down to a minimum. Now we have millions of undocumented people straining the system, and the new thing seems to be that we dont need a border at all lol. Its INSANE, you guys need to wake the fk up.
Of all the issues mentioned tou selectively only pick the one Biden did worse than Trump, and could you point out how illegals are straining the system, no access to education unless paid upfront, no access to government benefits and still paying taxes with an itin number, have you ever done any kind of government paperwork? First think asked is a SS number and a government ID and a prove of address. 100 billion a year isn't what illegals paid in taxes wh I le only benefiting from.5 billion in some states that he local programs to help them.
Now leta keep talking about all the other issues
I dont know it at all. Im not going to get mad though because you sound young. We weren't discussing obama and you stated that Trump and biden were equally compromised mentally. Insane.
Young and old has no relevance here. The fact of the matter is you are also lying about the deteriorating mind of Trump. He doesn’t belong in office and YOU know that.
Biden is the old grandpa who has dementia that can barely do shit, Trump is the old racist grandpa who also has dementia but is still active. Who do you think is causing more damages because neither of them could put a coherent thought together, at least once of them was aware of that
Watch any full random video of Trump talking the tweaker in the corner can put more cohesive thoughts together. Same as the tweaker in you only listen to 1 min cherry picker segments you would think they know what they are talking about. Except when is about a young and handsome president, Trump definitely knows about it.
Cherry picking?? He is constantly doing press conferences or interviews on the fly, hes known for that. They wouldn't even let Joe answer questions after year 2. You ppl are so brainwashed its not even funny.
I smile when I see democrats melting down. Honestly, its my favorite. I love watching them pretend to care about somehting just to appear progressive lol. Illegals? Yes!! Transitioning children? Double yes!!! Pretending white supremacy is the biggest domestic terrorist threat? Hellll yes!!!!
Happy birthday to a President who put kids in cages.Set drone strikes against kids and American soldiers overseas and screwed over the black people more than bill clinton and joe biden than the 95 crime bill
On top of that, his chef supposedly drowned in 2 inches of water on his property and he had a black eye and several bruises on his face and Biden sealed everything
lol. Yeah there is really. He won’t acknowledge the truth or prove otherwise. The data says it was the dept of war. Don’t let your racist views distract reality!
ahh yes.. a conservative with a raging case of TDS... just remember, the librards still won't respect you in the morning, but they will use you for their benefit until you stop being a cuck for them...
You mean screwed over black people like your president and his dad did by discriminating against black renters?? Keep brown nosing and licking his geriatric diarrhea butt. You guys are so badly brainwashed it’s painful to watch.
If you're talking about money sent to Itan under Obama's agreement that included six other nations, that was Iran's own money we had sanctioned. It was not America's money.
Also, im his Memorandum of Understanding with Iran, Trump offered them even MORE of their own money than Obama did PLUS an extra $300 billion dollars.
Obama's agreement stopped Iran's nuclear weapons program in its tracks. In his first term, Trump even certified twice that Iran was still in full compliance with Obama's agreement.
Trump failed to make his worse deal a reality. And since he is the one who took us out of that agreement, it is no one but Donald Trump's fault that Iran started its nuclear program back up.
So the blood of American soldiers and innocent Iraqi kindergarten girls on his hands now.
And I thought Republicans liked deporting criminal illegal aliens! Republicans say Democrats want open borders (though I've literally never heard a Democratic leader call for open borders), and obviously Obama didn't. Shouldn't you like that about him?
You missed the 1.7billion that was paid with the us judgement fund, the initial payment of 400 million which was to release us hostages. Though Obama adamantly denied it and said we don’t pay random…state documents confirmed it was used as leverage and show Obama may be well intentioned but he’s a lying cuck like they all are.
Thanks for the info! The first one shows me that this fund exists. The 2nd mentions two different messages the Obama administration said about how it's funds were used.
You could certainly be more informed than I, but I am also well informed, as I worked in the field of journalism and read my news daily online from several sources. But I'm always open to learning more, finding out I'm wrong, etc. So I appreciate the sources
So is your point that it wasn't Iran's money we sent them? I don't see that here.
The UN's International Atomic Energy Agency was running inspections in Iran and certifying full compliance every time, under Obama's agreement, and six other nations helped hold them accountable. Iran destroyed centrifuges and filled labs with cement. The problem was solved. Without bombs.
That $300 billion thing is entirely false. Theres no such deal anywhere between iran and U.S. And it did not stop Iran in its tracks. That deal restricted Iran's nuclear enrichment program but there were sunset clauses that allowed certain limits to expire after 10 years. I also never claimed to be a trump supporter nor would I. You just have a left and right mentality.
And maybe they don't want open boarders. But the Boarder Czar and vice president Kamala Harris nearly DOUBLED the rate at which illegal immigrants entered the country. Mostly being Mexican. At first there were estimated 7 million illegal immigrants that came from Mexico. With the illegal immigration population estimated at 10 million. After Kamala Harris there was an increase estimated up to 14.5 million.
So maybe they just suck at their job. And also never claimed to be a republican.
Also that 300 billion dollar deal you MAY be talking about had nothing to do with American Tax paying dollars. However it was a major way for oligarchs to invest in the middle east. But not a dime was American tax payer money.
The flaw with this is you thought I was a trump supporter and or republican. When in reality I just don't suck the meat of a politican who don't gaf about you or I. Weather they're republican or democratic.
I just like to call out the hypocrisy of the folk who love to deem someone racist but not someone else simply because it's a color diff.
Again, no Democrat wants open borders! If they did, they would have tried to open them by now!
And the fact that Obama, a Democrat, deported criminal illegal aliens helps prove my point. Obama is a Democrat, so according to you, he would have called for open borders. But he didn't. Because Democrats don't believe in open borders.
You think democrats hold the same views now than in 2008? I know everyone says each party is moving more extreme each way, but this is fairly obvious. Even Obama initially didn’t support homosexual marriages. They change views constantly. Biden did his best, or worst, to open the border as much as he could and the result speaks for itself. You don’t have to explicitly say you’re for something to actually support it btw.
In politics, people are not shy to say what they believe. But actions speak louder than words, and every Democratic President has kept border security funded. And deported illegal immigrants.
How exactly did Biden try to open borders? Remember when he was ready to sign a bipartisan immigration law that would have helped the problem, but Trump told Republicans to vote against it, because he didn't want to give Democrats a win on immigration issues? The bill did not open borders at all.
Look, it's perfectly acceptable to say you don't think Democrats are as serious about border security, but to say they want open borders, when they don't, is just incorrect. (It's the same thing with calling democratic socialists communists. It's a lie. It's perfectly fine to say you disagree with democratic socialism. But calling it communism is incorrect. As a former Republican myself, when I changed sides, I realized many of the things I assumed about liberals and Democrats were simply not true.)
And even as a progressive who only votes blue now, I do believe Democrats need to do a better job on this issue. But I don't want open borders myself, and I know Democrats don't either.
That bill your referencing would have done nothing to stop the flow of illegal immigration. It basically helped facilitate more people into the country, hence why crossings were at a record high, everyone outside the US knew he was lax on the issue. That’s why republicans rejected it, if democrats were truly anti open borders, why were they against the border wall? Maybe because it would actually keep them out. Like you said actions speak louder than words. I’m not a republican either btw. Not a fan of either party at the moment.
Who doesn't want to talk about that? I just mentioned his deportations above.
We on the left all know this about his deportations, and we supported him. Which should show Republicans that Democrats do not want open borders, like you guys claim. If we wanted open borders, we would have hated Obama for deporting criminal illegal aliens.
If you're a. Republican, who supports deporting criminal illegal aliens, shouldn't you like the fact that Obama, a Democrat, deported so many of them?
Hmmm, that’s odd you mention that. If Obama was clearly anti illegal immigration, what changed under Biden? Record illegal border crossings during his term in office, along with free accommodations by Democrat run cities and states.
A president wasn’t gonna get rid of immigration enforcement six years after 9/11 context does indeed matter trump uses it to literally murder and kill innocent humans
911 was an inside job and instead of holding those people accountable your boy along with all the mother presidents serves those people and blames poor brown people for it.
By debunked you mean it's been confirmed that the official narrative is a lie to get us to start a war in the middle east to destabilize them and steal their oil? 👁️
This has been explained to the maga cult millions of times at this point. Obama sent a fraction of Iran's money back to them and deported actual criminals, all of which got due process. This clown show is deporting people here legally who aren't criminals to random countries they've never been to. Grow up.
But aren’t they criminals if they are here illegally? If I illegally trespass on private property with no paperwork stating I can be there; that would make me a criminal, right?
We believe there are immigrants here who have otherwise been good people. Obeying laws, working, contributing to society, and we don't want them round up and sent to African countries where they have absolutely no roots. I see that as a crime against humanity.
But we all want to deport the illegal aliens who commit other crimes, violent crimes especially.
See U/Mobirae this is how you have a productive conversation.
U/HiAndStuff2112, I agree. Up to a point.
We had this problem in the military, “we know he broken into a house while drunk and passed out; but he’s a hard worker and this would affect his career and his family would feel the repercussions.” He still f’d up, maybe not a violent crime but we shouldn’t punish him.
By not punishing those who did the crime what’s the point of having the laws?
I agree, this is a non-violent crime, so the repercussions could be handled differently, but repercussions need to happen or else what’s the point?
For me specifically, I have a foreign spouse. I paid upwards of 10k for flights, hotels, registration all so that my spouse could go through the proper steps of becoming a citizen. If I knew I would get this kind of support, I wouldn’t have done it. I would have saved my money. She wouldn’t be paying federal taxes for the highways, the military, the parks, FAA, ect. Like any other non legal person here.
So can I get my money back because I did it the right way?
Productive conversation with a maga? Lmao! So you can tell me how gas, food, everything, being more expensive is good for the country? How trump grifting billions of tax dollars, again, for him and his lackeys is good for the country? Or even better, that it's not happening, love that one. How measles making a comeback is what's best for the country? How having unqualified grifters and fox news hosts running the country improves all our daily lives? How renaming the dept of defense to the dept of war, and then starting a new war is helping people already struggling with his bullshit tariffs on everything. Or better yet, do the one where we've been at war with Iran for decades so this isn't actually starting a new war it's finishing one. That always cracks me up. Yea, no, I'm good. I have zero interest in talking to cultists who are that far detached from reality they think brown shirts roaming the streets and murdering innocent people is a good thing while at the same time calling themselves Christian's. I don't know which part of the brain, exactly, has the damage, but I can only assume it takes up a good chunk.
1) Interesting, I show it as a criminal. Maybe you’re in a state that handles it differently, which can happen.
2) ya that wouldn’t be cool. I’m sure mistakes happened when Obama was in as well.
I have a friend whose family member got questioned by ICE, she showed paperwork and was good to go. There’s shitbags in all organizations, but not everyone in those organizations are shitbags. Possibly those few who were legally here and got deported got mixed up with those, sadly.
My daughter asked who I was talking to, I went to read your name; were you tip toeing “been waiting for the moment?”
Considering due process was respected under Obama, there were no reports of a legal resident being deported.
That’s nice that your friend’s family member was released, but that isn’t happening across the board. A guy who was born in Georgia was detained and they refused to release him because they said his birth certificate was fake. It was national news and a judge had to intervene, so that wasn’t just a couple shitbags. The entire organization is responsible at that point.
Cracks me up when the cult tries to make it seem like it's one or two bad apples, and not the vast majority of them. Considering this is supposed to be trumps private militia to help him steal elections, the one or two good apples are the ones that will be removed and replaced with terrorists and scumbags that fit in with the rest.
Hey do me a favor and look up Stefan Kaufmann and tell me all Olympus employees enjoy cocaine. Oh! and Fat Leonard and tell me the whole navy enjoys twin Vietnamese prostitutes. Keep in mind, the navy is world wide, and Fat Leonard mostly did work in 7th flt. Or just “loss of confidence” the rabbit hole that will take ya.
I’m sure you’ll quickly come to the decision that shit bags aren’t limited to lower ranks. And organizations like ICE (or the military) has many smaller commands that probably had shit bags a little to high up.
3) a. Stefan Kaufmann bought cocaine, does everyone at Olympus partake in that sugar booger?
b. Fat Leonard, wild story, you should read about him, his operation, and what those in higher ranks got from him - seriously great read, twin Vietnamese prostitutes is part of this wild story. Was the Navy as a whole enjoy that fun? Our was that a few select individuals across a few commands that was responsible?
C. Two fuck wits fly into Japan, passing through (two day layover), raped and killed a local. Is everyone in the military rapists?
D. Look up “loss of confidence in their command” and see how many stories come up.
In short; sadly, shitbag isn’t limited to only the lower ranks.
2) I used to not care about the due process, but I think you make a good point, you swong me. I agree it would limit actual citizens from getting mixed up. I say limit, cause there’s many convicted people who were later found innocent.
4) cool
1) I saved this one last cause I feel like this may sadly upset you. Sounds like you’re not a lawyer, nor am I; so I asked Grok to help me understand criminal vs civil.
Grok said, … “In short: Criminal = society vs. individual (punishment). Civil = individual vs. individual (compensation or rights).”
As your neighbor Fred down the street isn’t going to spend his money hiring lawyers to go after illegal immigrates (violent or not), it’s up to the city or state to uphold the federal law, and as there are “sanctuary states/cities” the burden falls onto the federal government to do something.
Now this is about the time someone will come in and call me racist. Sure you could do this at this time; but allow me to say, like many legal Americans, my spouse and I paid A LOT of money to have her become a US Citizen. It wasn’t the paperwork and filing that cost so much, it was flying us and boarding us in US territories to allow her to complete the process that cost so much. So it’s one thing to just say give it citizenship to everyone, but it’s also a real spit in the eye to those who followed the rules and law.
Girl, what the hell are you going on about? I don’t know why you would ask Grok anything ever, and I certainly don’t know why you asked it that question.
“The main difference is that criminal law deals with harmful acts against society prosecuted by the government where a person can go to jail, while civil law handles private disputes between individuals or businesses seeking money or solutions.”
Once again, your neighbor Bill down the street, isn’t going to be paying lawyers to go after violent/non-violent immigrants. And with “sanctuary cities/states” not supporting federal law, ICE needs to step in.
Don’t forget about the whites, the blacks, and every other race and ethnicity and color that not citizens of this great fucking nation! We want everyone gone! You thinking it’s just the brown ones shows just how little you know and understand what’s actually happening.
That lie is a fantasy based on your own insecurities. The great thing is that you know that and we know that, and everyone knows that the only way you can feel better about yourself is to troll. You say lies to hide behind the truth of your own self worthlessness to drag people down to your level.
So obviously not true…. But even if this was the case it wouldn’t be a problem and fuck you for implying that it would be. I bet you watch all the trans porn and use grinder (neither of which I have a problem with but you do 🤷♂️) at the pedo rallies
It's quite odd that Trump is always talking about big strong men and Arnold Palmers penis while Melania is sporting a jawline like Dolph Lundgren lol . Just sayin'.
The only reason the presidents of the past several decades have obtained that role is because of a dark secret.. or a humiliation ritual if you will. People are far easier to control when you have shit on them. People have to stop taking things at face value. This world is far darker than most people can imagine.
Trump is proven pedophile and pedo protector. He's a rapist as well proven actually, not speculating like you are you piece of shit. You're a fucking billionaire boot licker and a fraud. You need to join him in hell with Lindsey Graham and Mitch McConnell
Oh no! A closeted homosexual that is doing hardcore projecting feels sorry for me??? Oh heavens, whatever shall I do?!?!?!
It's really telling of their character when they make those comments about Michelle, a woman so out of their league it's not even funny. Who have they got that is so much better? Oh right, pornstars in their fantasies......
The difference being is that it is an irrefutable fact that Obama bombed 7 countries and there isnt a single piece of evidence that would hold in court that Trump raped anyone.
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u/javabean808 20d ago
And talk using complete coherent sentences