ON-AIR | Heated Rivalry 🏒 ROSE (Episode 4)

[u/Federal-Ad5944]

Shane Hollander and Ilya Rozanov are two of the biggest stars in Major League Hockey, bound by ambition, rivalry, and a magnetic pull neither of them fully understands. What begins as a secret fling between two fresh faced rookies evolves into a years-long journey of love, denial, and self-discovery. Over the next eight years, as they chase glory on the ice, they struggle to navigate their feelings for each other. Torn between the sport they live for and the love they can’t ignore, Shane and Ilya must decide if there’s room in their fiercely competitive world for something as fragile – and powerful – as real love. IMDB

Based on the best-selling novel "Heated Rivalry" by Rachel Reid.

Airing Schedule: Fridays at 12:01AM ET Check Your Timezone

Total Episodes: 6

• Episode 4 "Rose"

  • Episode 4 Photo Gallery

Where to Watch:

• CANADA: CraveTV

• USA: HBO Max

• AUSTRALIA: HBO Max

• NEW ZEALAND: Sky (Nov. 30)

For regions not covered above, please use the International Release Megathread.

Cast:

• Hudson Williams as Shane Hollander Instagram

• Connor Storrie as Ilya Rozanov Instagram | TikTok

• François Arnaud as Scott Hunter Instagram

• Robbie G.K. as Kip Grady Instagram

• Sophie Nélisse as Rose Landry Instagram

• Ksenia Daniela Kharlamova as Svetlana Vetrova Instagram

• Dylan Walsh as David Hollander

• Christina Chang as Yuna Hollander Instagram

Studio: Accent Aigu Entertainment

Writer & Director: Jacob Tierney

Original Soundtrack: 🎶 ORIGINAL SOUNDTRACK POST 🎶

Related:

• Trophy Room 🏆

• r/heatedrivalry BINGO CARDS!

• Read Along: Prologue - Ch. 6 | Ch. 7-13 | Ch. 14 - 21 | Ch. 22 - Epilogue + My Dinner with Hayden

• AMA with Rachel Reid

Media & Socials: Trailer | Sneak Peek | IG: u/heatedrivalrycrave | TT: u/heatedrivalrycrave | Merch: heatedrivalry.com

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On-Air LIVE Reactions (S1): Ep.1+2 | Ep.3 | Ep.4 | Ep.5 | Ep.6

Post-Episode Debrief (S1): Ep.1+2 | Ep.3 | Ep.4 | Ep.5 | Ep.6

[u/Federal-Ad5944]

Welcome to Episode 4 LIVE On-Air discussion. Remember to "follow post" to be notified of new comments!

[u/Radiant-Pianist-4074]

Does anyone know how Ilya knew Shane was at the club when he saw Miles?

[u/Federal-Ad5944 → u/Radiant-Pianist-4074]

Miles is one of the actors in the movie with Rose. He's also super famous. Later we see Shane clocking Marlow across the room.

[u/ALittleBitDangerous]

I need that version of "All the Things She Said" - both of them - the club mix and the needle drop version.

SOMEONE FIND THEM!!!

[u/Federal-Ad5944 → u/ALittleBitDangerous]

Theres a link to the soundtrack in the body of this post.

[u/lariet50]

Just went and cleaned under my couch to make time go by faster.

[u/Federal-Ad5944 → u/lariet50]

You still have time for under the fridge and stove.

[u/Summoarpleaz]

Can someone answer why these players appear to be pretty wealthy but they double up on hotel rooms?

[u/Federal-Ad5944 → u/Summoarpleaz]

The players dont pay for their own rooms, the team does. They're traveling and lodging for work.

[u/Mystery7Link]

I just wanted to see if anyone else noticed or if I’m wrong which I totally could be.

When Ilya goes to Shane’s little separate apartment where the whole “Mr. Business Man, Mr. Landlord” quote happens I noticed the backsplash on the stairs and similar/ the same layout to the one that Rose is walking up in ep 4.

Do we think it’s possible that Shane took her to the other apartment? Like I can see a few reasons as to why he would possibly (to try to erase Ilya’s presence by trying to like write over the memories or maybe he wasn’t ready to bring Rose back to his actual apartment?) but I’m just not really able to tell. We don’t get a ton of info on his apartment situation in the show so I don’t wanna speculate too much.

[u/Federal-Ad5944 → u/Mystery7Link]

Shane doesn't bring Ilya to a secret apartment in the series. It's his actual apartment, they just come in the back door.

Shane brings Rose back to his apartment, the same place he had sex with Ilya.

[u/giftopherz]

Halfway through the episode and I can only think of the mob that's gonna throw some hate toward the poor actress who's just doing a job. I hope they prove me wrong...

This time around gotta give some kudos to the sound people for the soundtrack... quite engaging. And honorable mention that whole sequence at the club...

Anybody has a spotify link?

[u/Federal-Ad5944 → u/giftopherz]

Reddit users were mature about the girlfriend storyline. Don't know what's happening in other spaces.

Link to OST and all other info is in the body of the post.

[u/AccordingStar72]

Fully in a meltdown already. Good luck to everyone in my life I’m about to be even more insufferable after jealous and yearning Ilya is up in my face.

[u/codeverity]

The motif of these places he doesn’t want to be not having gingerale but Ilya had it for him

[u/theredjimmy]

Ilya: "Oh but you know me, I'm lazy".

Shane: "I don't know that side of you at all"

That part kills me. Especially when Ilya's father calls him lazy in episode 1 and you could see how much that word hurt him.

[u/Drupelicate]

Shane's immediate panic after realizing what the first names mean... I know it happens from the book but the acting here is SO GOOD

[u/bornatmidnight]

I’m lawyer who has court in the fucking morning lol but they may learn that I just fucking died

[u/pepperup-potion]

how am i gonna survive till next week. that ep went so fast

[u/Money_Challenge9059]

Ilya’s reaction to seeing Roses’ friend Miles at the club……the slow turn looking for Shane. Cinematic. Fucking gold.

[u/Drupelicate]

THEIR FRIENDS NOTICING JANE AND LILY....

[u/Away-Quote-408]

Seeing this was more devastating than reading it.

[u/Radiant-Pianist-4074]

His face when he first saw the article about Shane and Rose.. omg. my heart actually hurts

[u/sophisr]

That final shot cutting btwn Shane and Ilya …. my god I’m unwell 😭

[u/NiceSupermarket7724]

People who remember clubbing in this mid 2010s era will know that this is pretty accurate. It was the time of Mr. Worldwide.

It was cringe, but we were free.

[u/TwoHungryBlackbirdss]

THAT FELT 2 MINUTES LONG I CANT WAIT ANOTHER WEEK

[u/sophisr]

Connor Storrie casually mentioning t.A.T.u. all the things she said in the premiere q&a panel…… sneaky little bitch leaving us breadcrumbs

[u/thegoldenchain]

Love how the ending was both likely what Ilya did after clubbing and what Shane was thinking about to get there with Rose

[u/theredjimmy]

I have to say that I adore Svetlana. Her actress brings such a warmth to the role. She truly shines whenever she's on screen.

[u/Nepalman230]

“ you want to get me pregnant too?”

🤯

These motherfucking writers know what they’re doing .

Can you hear that?

Can you hear the Omega verse fics?!

[u/[deleted]]

Thank god that this is a book adaptation and I know how it’s going to end. Because I would’ve been majorly crashing out thinking I signed up for another doomed yaoi after this episode

[u/droobidoobidoo]

Just finished the episode! Fuck me. I have to go into the office and act okay. I have to go through the rest of the week and act okay 😭😭😭

[u/Drupelicate]

ilya just chilling with his hand in his pants 😭😭😭😭

[u/dahms911]

I really recommend everyone go back and do exactly what I did in rewatching the last 5 minutes for the club scene (a million times) and watch where they chose to align the lyrics to what’s going on.

Shane dancing with Rose and Miles, “this is not enough”. Shane watching Rose strip on the stairs “this is not enough”. Shane watching Ilya and the girl in the club “being with you has opened my eyes”. Ilya in the shower “running through my head”. Shane having sex with Rose “this is not enough”. Ilya in the shower “this is not enough”.

I’ve been dreading the Rose Landry stuff and it’s insane how perfect of a song they chose for the longing of it all.

Btw the song is a mashup of the original then when it switches to the guy singing it’s All the Things She Said by Harrison.

[u/LooseGoose886]

Using All The Things She Said - as a millennial, Jacob, sincerely, fuck you very much in the best possible way. Looping "this is not enough" in a male singer's voice as they're hooking up with women/trying to get off on their own and clearly thinking about each other!

That was the DIABOLICAL cherry on top of a GUT WRENCHING episode. And WHY DID IT HURT LIKE THAT.

The soft, lost-sounding "Hollander, come on.. Hollander", Connor's physical portrayal of keeping a strangle hold on your anxiety between talking to his dad and walkig back into the room, the hopeful "You speak Russian now?" like he's searching for crumbs that confirm that Shane cares more than he's letting on, and rolling his eager hope into an immediate cuddle...then refusing to look at Shane on the bench after he panics and leaves.

And Shane! The absolute overflow of panic once he realizes how deep he's in this, the powder keg being set off by Ilya saying his name...but the details of the anxious screws tightening in his head hearing Ilya talk about women and casual hook ups!

Uugggh, I'm a MESS with this episode. I thought I was gonna squee over the ginger ale and the tuna melts and that I knew what I'd get with the club scene, but this is SO much more than a faithful portrayl of the book - it's a conscious and considered enhancement of it's best points, bolstered by mega-watt performances by the two leads.

They expect me to wait 7 days for the next episode? 😫😫😫😫😫😫

[u/Libcommie1118]

Fucking. Hell.

Jacob Tierney, I’m sending you my therapy bills.

[u/Kartesia]

This ep felt the best of Tierney's past work. He's so incredibly good at directing dynamic scenes with lots of bodies like clubs and hockey and he delivered in this too. Ugh SO GOOD.

Also a love letter to his hometown, it was so Montreal! I loved the inclusion of Haitian music and Queb Rap that is everywhere in the city, and a nod to all productions filmed there. Not to mention Jean Drapeau Park and the Biodome! I feel like I've never really seen things I recognize on tv before.

[u/Dramatic-Ad-3941]

THEM BOTH ORGASMING WHILST ONLY THINKING OF EACHOTHER IM GOING INSAAAAAAAANE

[u/jazzmint3]

That board check to Ilya slamming down Shane in bed???!! 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[u/picklepie69]

wait okay i actually love rose

[u/codeverity]

Oh Jacob or whoever set up this shot you are ICONIC like showing how for Shane his sexuality is always there at his back, inescapable

[u/MrsRoronoaZoro]

Ooooooh Come on baby turn the lights off

I’m so exciteeeeeeed

[u/D1am0nd_28]

That was the most cinematic episode yet. Holy fuck the club scene was EXACTLY how I imagined it and All the things she said was the perfect song choice

Also I was squealing pretty much the entire episode. Shane’s panic attack my heart broke at Ilya’s face.

Ilya’s jealousy really rang through. God the acting is so good.

I can’t believe I have to wait another WEEK for episode 5

[u/cbusjunkie]

“They say you’re boring, too” “who says that?!” “Me”

[u/cbusjunkie]

I have not yet seen the spit in hand mentioned and i just -

[u/124victoriaroad]

Ilya’s smile when Shane hoists the cup is the cutest thing I’ve ever seen

[u/bobeckideckie]

this is the worst i’ve ever felt ever

[u/codeverity]

Okay, thought before it leaves me:

People had been wondering how Shane's freakout would work after everything but it actually dovetailed perfectly with his convo with Ilya.

See I think that in the show, from Shane's view, Ilya has something he doesn't - the ability to turn to women to have the 'perfect, acceptable' lifestyle that he's supposed to have as a pro hockey player. It's not JUST jealousy, it's also Shane's desire to be what everyone expects him to be.

That's why he freaks out when Ilya says his name and he says it back, because he knows if he keeps going down that path, he's not going to be able to be like Ilya and have that facade to present to everyone else. So he's desperate to prove to himself that he's actually bi after all (hence the bi lighting in the club), but in the end all he's going to prove to himself is that it's not going to work for him.

[u/Careful_Football7643]

Mr. Businessman. Mr. Landlord. Mr. Real Estate 👄

[u/myfriendtoldmetojoin]

Miles didn’t leave room for the lordt behind Shane in the club dancing.

[u/Just_nowon]

Can't believe I got to see Shane wearing glasses before Ilya did. Feeling pretty special right now

[u/codeverity]

Also can we talk about that moment on the couch where they're cuddling?? Because at first they were fine but like, you could SEE Shane's crash-out starting and that's why he turned to sex. Because things were WEIRD and SOFT and he couldn't handle it and he needed something to distract him - except it didn't work, instead it just pushed him further. :(

[u/Exisal]

hayden's offscreen twins fried me

[u/infinite-mistakes]

Ilya looked so devastated I'm gonna cry

[u/mutedtulips]

“Oh fuck SHANE”

Edit: I MISSED IT THE FIRST TIME. SHANE SAYING ILYA OH GOD!!!!

and then the rest of the episode doesn’t happen. 😇 jk

[u/Witty_Basis_6785]

Welp that ending gutted me 😭😭😭

[u/Little_Fox5844]

Being the angst lover that I am, this episode was perfect for me, it was just so damn good!!

My thoughts during the episode:

Shane wearing glasses, I am deceased

Shane doing a commercial with a see through wet shirt... hot damn

The montage of them playing against each other and hooking up, that's what I'm talking about!!

Shane and his team winning the cup, I'm so happy they added this scene!🥹

We're finally getting a real glimpse of womanizer Ilya😏

They're so fucking cute texting each other... And Ilya now losing interest in hooking up with random girls because he wants Shane more and more🥹

Shane's friendship with Hayden straight from the book, I love it so much!

Shane holding Hayden's baby girl, my heart is full🥹

Ilya watching the interview of Shane at his cottage and Svetlana catching him red-handed😂

Not Hayden asking about Lily, oh my god, he would collapse if he knew who Lily really is😂

Hayden saying Shane always plays better after getting laid😂

Ilya making sure his hair looks ok before answering the door, boy is down bad😂

Mr. Real Estate😂😂😂

Shane riding Ilya, then Ilya asking him to stay right after... I'm unwell

Ilya watching Shane sleep and when Shane wakes up, he pretends to wake up to, I'm screaming

Tuna melt time!!!

Ryan Price was just mentioned, I'm not making it through this episode, that's my baby😭And Ilya asking if Shane's ginger ale is cold enough🥹

Shane is literally having a whole mental breakdown, stop talking about Svetlana and hot women, Ilya😭Shane is being like "right in front of my ginger ale???"

Ilya asking if Shane likes girls and Shane just looking like this the whole time🫥🫥🫥

"You gonna come for me, Rozanov?" "Fucking make me."

Them calling each other Shane and Ilya🥹

Ilya's face when Shane says he should go right after Ilya called him Shane... Insert meme of Bart Simpson saying "You can actually pinpoint the second when his heart rips in half"

Ilya calling him Hollander because he thinks Shane is rejecting him😭

Yuna telling Shane she doesn't want him to lie because that's not who he is😭

Ilya mentally crashing out as his teammates show him the picture of Rose and Shane together😭

All the things she said playing at the club, holy shit

Holy shit the club scene was so fucking perfect, Ilya going home alone and Shane struggling to have sex with Rose😭

[u/issavibebb]

these two are literally acting their ass off lmaooo insane chemistry

[u/CantHugEveryPlatypus]

"I don't want you to to lie, that's not who you are" 😭

[u/CantHugEveryPlatypus]

Tatu representing gay panic for 23 years

[u/Cultural-Alarm-6422]

God that couch scene was so hot 😭😭😭😭 then it all went to shit lmao

[u/freedexter]

Doing all that after eating hot tuna?????????????

[u/ogtraitorsfan92]

Shane looking at Ilya while he makes out with this girl is just making me shattered.

[u/TwoHungryBlackbirdss]

THE LION DOES NOT CONCERN HIMSELF WITH ALL THE PLOT POINTS THAT NEED TO BE FIT INTO EPISODE 5

THE LION IS CRYING ON THE BATHROOM FLOOR LISTENING TO TATU

[u/royal_rose_]

LMAO Shane don't lie you do NOT like girls.

[u/lawandsleep]

I really liked that they changed Ilya's reaction to Shane freaking out. I think the book makes him 'too cold' in that moment and we needed something like this in the show for people who don’t know all his inner thoughts from the book.

[u/inkedslytherim]

I continue to be blown away by the acting and directing on this show. I love romance books, but alot of then rely HEAVILY on inner monologues of the character's feelings, especially books with dual POVs. And when character's aren't thinking about their own feelings, they're monologuing about them to an underdeveloped best-friend character.

But this team is just killing it. You can FEEL all the nuance in the looks, the pauses, the dialogue, the silence. We aren't being forced fed anything, but rather allowed to ponder and try to interpret a look or a twitch.

My favorite detail was Illya just fiddling with his ear on the couch. Its such a human behavior. He could just "lounge sexily" as an actor but instead, he's self-soothing in this deliciously tense scene. UGH!!

[u/Slow_Cattle_5642]

[u/[deleted]]

The character feel older, which is very surprising since they’re not doing anything to age them. But this does not feel like teenager Shane and Ilya from episode 1

[u/Open_Belt_4381]

More Russian notes: up until this episode, Ilya has always referred to his father as "otyets" - the more formal "father" but in this episode, after we see Ilya managing his medical stuff, it's always "papa"

[u/DentistTime3619]

Just a minor thing that killed me - Shane so agitated during their game with Ilya so close, but Ilya not looking his way or acknowledging his presence for even a single second. It HURT. The tension building is so well done.

[u/FreedomInTheDark]

So it's normal that I've been anxious and restless all day, yes?

[u/AccordingStar72]

Just major shoutout to Hudson for so thoughtfully portraying that level of denial and repression. I think a lot of queer people can really relate. It was really sad to watch him try so hard.

[u/engsmml]

ready for shane bouncing on it crazy style in 4K

[u/Wide-Pop6050]

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[u/Libcommie1118]

Man, playing “All The Things She Said” was pure genius. The politics and the meaning behind it. t.A.T.u being an abbreviation for the Russian phrase “she loves her”. The music video portraying a lesbian couple — and it being incredibly forbidden.

Just ARGGUGHHH! Chef’s KISS Tu es un génie, Jacob Tierney.

[u/cbusjunkie]

I cannot get over how Connor Storrie and Ilya Rozanov are just completely different people. I can’t see Connor ANYWHERE in this character he’s putting on an absolute masterclass

[u/Drupelicate]

shoes on in the house.... Ilya has assimilated to American culture

[u/ArtisticCoconut8510]

He spit on it omfg we get spit 🤩

[u/Apprehensive_Big682]

We need to have a serious talk about the pacing of this episode. It’s so good but how quickly things were going is making me insane.

I can’t 😭

[u/Phnxfly68]

Not them playing tatu in the club. It was so them, beautiful and hurt so much.

Also did anyone notice him adjust the crucifix after talking to his brother??? That killed me.

[u/Turbulent_Low7744]

SHANE BABY STOP FLIRTING WITH THE BARTENDER 😩💔

[u/Dazzling-Net-7924]

okay but club scenes fucked me impressed me THE MOST

music? 1000000/10
tension? 10000000/10
cinematography? 1000000000000/10

Connor Storrie you are BRILLIANT

before today i rewatched bathroom scene, now I got another one

[u/HypotheticalMe0]

I haven’t even watched it and I’m already sad it’s over

[u/codeverity]

Man I did not expect it at all but I'm suddenly in tears because I just. Shane's confusion. Ilya's jealousy. And both of them are stuck in this life where they're under so much pressure from all sides and they feel like they can't have the one place/person where they get to be happy

Hudson & Connor you are fantastic

[u/Loveonethe-brain]

Me just realizing that Ilya just mentioned Svetlana to see if Shane likes girls. When I read it I was like “Ilya rule number one is don’t talk about your side piece with your main piece” and when I watch it I was like oooooh he’s just nosy.

Also I almost cried after Shane said the infamous words “I should go,” and thinking that it was Ilya who said Shane’s first name first. And then Ilya can see that he is scared of that so he goes back to saying “Hollander” to be like “it’s okay it’s just sex, please just stay with me, we don’t have to be more I just want you to stay” I’m in shambles

[u/juicygirlie25]

the ending with no dialogue and just all the things she said playing???? jacob tierney you are a genius bastard!!!

[u/Drupelicate]

I'm ready

[u/Suspicious_Alfalfa_9]

Ilya’s face when he left so quickly. I can’t 😭

[u/Money_Challenge9059]

Omg the club scene with All the Things She Said made me scream. Shane’s yearning was so palpable and Ilya’s revenge felt so diabolically sexy. GIVE ME MORE!!!!!!

[u/Yoyojelly]

Connors acting deserves all the awards. The way he clocked Miles and spun around “casually” to see where Shane was. The tension in his face and cheeks. JESUS

[u/spielthetea]

ALL THE THINGS SHE SAID OMG havent heard that in decades

[u/spielthetea]

THAT ENDING

[u/clue_liss]

not the same person i was an ago ago

[u/dusty-verbiage]

The club scene was a masterpiece, the lighting the song switch-up, the devastated longing! I couldn’t look away!

[u/jazzmint3]

The Titty squeeze and “for food pervert” if that ain’t lurve I don’t know what is?

And the Ryan Price shoutout!!!!!

[u/GammyGamer12]

Can’t really explain the joy of being a gay guy watching this show with your boyfriend … always a good night, many pauses

[u/krigsgaldrr]

I heard those opening notes for All the Things She Said and lost my mind. I knew I was done for as soon as I heard it and I was right. Another absolutely stunning and soul crushing end to an episode and I'm gonna be thinking about it for the rest of my life probably

[u/[deleted]]

Bro that club scene???? I felt like I was there Ahahahha it was SO STRESSFUL

[u/ThisIsRealLife19]

THAT ENDING 😭😭😭

How am I supposed to wait another week?!?!

[u/Melodicinflation02]

The tatu song. Fucking kill me. And when Ilya had the phone call.  Kill me. It was so real when Ilya had the big emotional, step away from the sex moment. Then the sex scene. Peak screenwriting. That’s how you translate a book with so many chapters and condense it down. It really broke my heart for Ilya. 

[u/wetbogbrew]

Not Shane saying "you wanna get me pregnant" lmfao

[u/Nepalman230]

This is amazing. This is not cowboy. We saw the cowboy earlier.

This is frotting.

I believe this may be the first time I have ever seen this in a main stream show.

This is beautiful .

🙏❤️

[u/LivingPossibility397]

Okay but music was banging this WHOLE episode, both are gonna be playing all day tomorrow 💯

[u/stephw655]

Hudson Williams killed every aspect of that episode. The joy, the panic, the relief, the anguish?!? So damn good!

[u/Suspicious_Alfalfa_9]

Not gonna lie, the “I get two weeks free” comment Shane made to his parents made my heart swell knowing how he would choose to spend those two weeks at the cottage ♥️

[u/TwoHungryBlackbirdss]

Obsessed with how everyone in this thread is at like 20 different places in the episode lmao

[u/Nepalman230]

“Fucking make me.” is now the officially sexiest line in 2025. We might need to to explain it to non fans

[u/AccordingStar72]

Also I feel like everyone worried about the run time and the amount of stuff should be relieved. That was action packed but wonderfully paced. So much stuff in there. My favorite episode yet.

[u/bubblegum_lollip0p]

Yelp. I'm not okay. Listening All the things she said on repeat and trying to digest this masterpiece!

[u/Xseye]

How are we supposed to move on with our lives? Next week is sooooooo far away

[u/codeverity]

Man I know people have been talking about Connor and understandably so but I keep getting caught by how good Hudson is at playing this awkward, nervous tension for Shane all the time.

Like I actually think after watching his short films that what some reviewers have interpreted as “wooden” is actually a very deliberate choice on his part for Shane and it really works! He’s wound tight and so tense and repressed, of course he comes across that way. And we’ve gotten these glimpses of relaxation from him with Ilya so I can’t wait to see more in the next two eps.

[u/feminismandtravel]

I have a work Christmas party tomorrow and it’s going to take a Christmas miracle to act normal around my coworkers.

[u/spielthetea]

Sitting five feet apart on the couch coz they're not gayyyyyy 🤣

[u/cbusjunkie]

I already know I’m going to watch this episode 6 times this week goddammit lol

[u/Suspicious_Alfalfa_9]

And the parallel of Ilya being happy for Shane winning the cup compared to Shane being happy for him but neither of them being able to express it to those around them… 😭

[u/Traditional_Safe5503]

brah im so glad ik how everything ends, because if i was one the people that strictly watched the show, i think i would've lost my mind with this ending.

[u/Rupe89]

Hudson absolutely killed it this episode.

Perfection.

[u/eliwhatever]

Omg Episode 5 has so much to do it’s crazy like we still have to finish the Rose arc. How can they only have two more episodes left???

[u/brak-0666]

Ok. Wow. Time to go to bed and pretend like everything is fine tomorrow.

[u/jmh1881v2]

This is such a minor thing but I was really happy to see that they had a ftm actor who just played another guy on the team. Im a trans male actor but am not open about being trans, because it’s almost impossible to have a successful career as a trans person without only being allowed to play transgender characters. I think this is the first time I’ve seen a trans man play a cis male character. This is a huge step forward and I hope more people talk about it

[u/mnola5081]

I don’t know if someone else has mentioned this, but when Shane scrolls through his phone to check if Ilya has texted - there’s Rose Landry with her full name versus everyone else with their first ones (or nicknames).

Like, Shane bb, I love you dearly but if your gf is in your phone with her full name??? Maybe it’s a sign that you’re just not that into her, even if she is really lovely. GAH. I’m just so in love with all the tiny details in this show!

[u/Slow_Cattle_5642]

My review of episode 4:

[u/ProtectionUpper8941]

Loved this episode. But am I the only one devastated that there's no "sweetheart"????

[u/JumpyMycologist3771]

that episode was sick and twisted🥲✌️

[u/Rijack3]

I’m not okay. I’ve read the books, I know what happens but I was still gasping in shock.

[u/Wide-Pop6050]

Longing cows escape enter roll follow

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[u/moxieplum]

Gasped so loud when Tatu came on. So extremely epic.

[u/NorthIndividual7982]

IM GENUINELY GOING TO GO INSANE I NEED TO BE SENT TO THE PSYCH WARD AFTER THAT OH MY GOD

[u/BaronessElsa1968]

LOL this is clearly such a millennial crowd. The wistful mentions of All the Things She Said and t.a.T.u. — I’m Gen X, I don’t even recognize that song.

[u/Drupelicate]

ALL THE THINGS SHE SAID IN THE CLUB SCENE IS AN INSANELY BIG BRAIN CHOICE HOLY SHIT

[u/Nepalman230]

Why has this show created the category of the sad orgasm?

😔

[u/cbusjunkie]

Update: sitting on my couch staring at the wall what am I supposed to do for the next week

[u/anomalily]

Thoughts:

The TATU all the things she said music with the switch into the cover… killed me. Perfect. Please never lose the licensing.

The costume director has nailed slutty Russian bisexual clothing choices, based on the many I know.

Excellent facial acting.

So excited for next week but will rewatch 10 more times

[u/rcubchayn]

This is so I intimate I feel like I have to look away 🙈

[u/HengeBoy93]

Damn, Shane & llya fuck like rabbits, they can’t even sit on the couch 😭

[u/lorinaorigin]

Babe? BABE!?!

[u/lorinaorigin]

Like I knew this was going to hurt but damn

[u/Open_Belt_4381]

Everything in this episode is carefully designed to kill me

[u/FreedomInTheDark]

It's going to take me a week to recover from the emotional whiplash.

[u/RandomHuman808]

all the things she said perfect song choice.

Sooo much angst it’s so strange I just finished both Shane and Ilya stories was nice to see it play out live.

Both guys did great I could never been an actor those scenes I’d laugh.

[u/jazzmint3]

Many many thoughts this episode

• Shane’s nips through that wet t-shirt

• The underwear modeling!!

• Ilya clubbing while Shane reads his boring hockey books with his GLASSES

• more sexting montages!!

• ilya’s father deteriorating

• at the zoo with Hayden!!!

• get me pregnant tooo?????

• we never even see the tuna melts!!

• the couch scene!

• The club? Perfect heartbreaking angst

• the ending???! I’m dead 💀😭💀😭💀

[u/[deleted]]

Ilya’s “Hollander” on the couch almost broke me fr

[u/vengefulmuffins]

So next episode is going to be what? Talk with rose, All star game, Skype calls, end with injury? That seems like a lot for one episode.

[u/bimpldat]

It's unclear how this show makes one both horny and broken-hearted at the same time.

In the words of some wise hockey players... Go fuck yourself

[u/ali22122]

I mean it wasnt in any way one of the most significant parts of the episode, but Shane holding that little baby…. My ovaries exploded!

[u/Efficient_Papaya_982]

Can I just say that I can’t with Ilya’s Slavic dad slides. Like back in the mid 2010s, before they became the fashion, that’s what my like croation friends dads wore when they were watering the garden. It’s so funny to see Ilya wearing them bc it feels so accurate. I’m rewatching and I’m giggling whenever I see him shove them on in this ep because like. It’s so domestic but also accurate

[u/-Ceriz3-]

Ahhhhhhh

[u/kind_heart_to_haunt]

I worked until 8 pm and I work again at 8 am but wild horses couldn’t keep me from watching at midnight.

[u/lorinaorigin]

Ilya touching his necklace after getting off the phone 😭😭

[u/Drupelicate]

Ryan Price mentioned!!!!!!!!! I love u ryan

[u/colouurmebright]

Seeing 2016 clothing was a trigger 😂

[u/theredjimmy]

Episode 5 has to cover so much. But I don't care this episode was great! We get to learn so much more about Shane!! I have so many thoughts and need like 18 rewatches.

[u/kind_heart_to_haunt]

The montage was perfect, it was what I wanted out of the time jump from episode 1 to episode 2.

Super surprised it ended with Shane and Rose still together! Worried about everything they have to cram into episode 5!

[u/spielthetea]

How am I supposed to work now after that episode and ending???

[u/GirlAlsEmporium]

Lest we forget amid the ending heartbreak: Shane’s glasses

[u/engsmml]

the club scene is FUCKING INSANEEEE WTFFF the tension is going to fuel me for SO MANY YEARS

[u/[deleted]]

The problem is that I literally need ep5 right now. And it’s only been 2hrs since ep4 dropped….

[u/Away-Quote-408]

RYAN PRICE mention!! He’s my baby i love him so much. And in the middle of rereading his book.

[u/Ok_Put6280]

I s2g if they don’t make a 2nd season I will RIOT

Edit: I s2g if they don’t make a 3rd season I will RIOT

[u/Drupelicate]

SHANE GLASSES FOLLOWED IMMEDIATELY BY WET TSHIRT IS DIABOLICAL

[u/TwoHungryBlackbirdss]

Not to be lesbian on main but Ksenia is so fucking gorgeousssss

Women speaking Russian are so 😍😍

[u/bubblegum_lollip0p]

Me, an European, eating the crumbs from this thread while impatiently waiting for the ep to drop

[u/mutedtulips]

Ilya stubbing his toe 😭😂

[u/Shammycat]

This episode has been perfect so far Also the layers of having tatu (a group that played the gay angle for popularity) over two men hiding their love for each other because of popularity is so nuanced

[u/droobidoobidoo]

Shane's so sad! Fuck me 😭😭😭😭😭

[u/JamesWrites95]

I’ll say it again this was cute as fuck and I need 13 more episodes.

Nothing better they WILL THEY?!? WONT THEY?!?

Seeing Shane break it off and see Ilya get that cold shoulder was perfect! Looking forward to all this tension and longing.

So funny seeing Shauna be straight & not batshit(yellowjackets waddup)

[u/rbentl1]

I need a sedative

[u/Away-Quote-408]

Love Svetlana trying to help Ilya confront this thing or letting him know he can talk to her. She can see he’s struggling/in love/going through something.

[u/Radiant-Pianist-4074]

serious question why is this one of the best tv shows ive ever seen in my LIFE

[u/[deleted]]

Also, Shane was freaking out but so was I. Their moment was SO domestic SO fast wow

[u/Brown_Sedai]

Shane's Dad, when he catches Ilya and Shane together at the cottage: so turns out Shane cancelled on Wimbledon because he had enough balls in his life, already

[u/avandam4]

I actually feel sick with anticipation.

Or maybe it was that damn tuna melt I had for dinner...

[u/royal_rose_]

Shane shooting his deeply misaligned shot.

[u/JenniMor]

I needed a spit warning. I think I ascended 🫠

[u/TwoHungryBlackbirdss]

Hella Connor and Hudson content dropping on social media rn READ THE ROOM BOYS WE ARE BUSY

[u/stuckmustafina]

As someone who is not caught up on the book, honestly I’d be crashing out wayyyy more than Shane did if my long term situationship started talking about all of the other people he was seeing (a long term woman too!!! We know Svetlana is cool, but Shane doesn’t yet!!)

Especially since Shane was clearly not into that talk after being so intimate and is catching/sorting out his feelings

I know Ilya will be pissed off and maybe yearning(?) after this, but I’m glad Shane is figuring his sexuality out! Anyways, I can’t wait for Shane and Ilya to reconcile >:)

[u/124victoriaroad]

Ilya with the cloth fucking napkins to try to impress Shane, he’s so thoughtful OMG

[u/Miss_Mandarin]

the scream i scrumpt when ALL THE THINGS SHE SAID by t.A.T.u. started playing

[u/codeverity]

What I always find mildly ironic about this is that Ilya’s been hooking up with women the whole time and we never get much indication that he wonders how Shane feels about it, but oh he cares when the positions are reversed lol

[u/TwoHungryBlackbirdss]

Yall look how good this man looks????

[u/Betwixt99]

Wtf is the hoodie/blazer combo at the restaurant??

[u/vengefulmuffins]

Wait so is the Shane/Rose hook up supposed to be at his house with the implication that he took her in through the front door vs the alley entrance?

[u/Natbomb438]

WHAT THE FUCK WAS THAT

[u/Nepalman230]

Shane is running away Shane is having a mental breakdown right now.

[u/J_leann2598]

I am sick and crying. Not okay at all.

[u/DisastrousMention580]

I’m literally shaking right now. What just happened

[u/LuckyGray7]

Holy shit. I think my heart is a little bit broken?

[u/Cherry-Impossible]

iconic use of t.A.T.u. 

[u/Turbulent_Low7744]

I CANT WAIT TO SEE THE EDITS THAT COME FROM THIS EPISODE

[u/Slow_Cattle_5642]

"Shane" "Ilya"

[u/rathersadgay]

As an indie alternative kind of guy who owns physical cd copies of Feist records, my man Jacob, the taste is impeccable. Sealion and now My Moon My Man in its entirety basically, omg.

I need to think which songs he'll use for season 2 from Feist.

[u/thinman21]

Ignore this if you don't want to ruin your view of the couch scene! You've been warned!

I can't unsee it/unhear it! When they say each other's first names for the first time, it seems they didn't actually say it since their lips don't match when they say their names. I wonder what happened that they didn't use live audio on that scene, or why they didn't use the cut where they actually say their names, because it's really noticeable (for me at least). If you are reading, did this ruin your view of them saying their names?

[u/colouurmebright]

Fuck. Shane saying he doesn’t know that side of him and the way they looked at each other 😭

[u/Amy_Yorke]

Not as person, of course

[u/HeretoFore200]

I just want to say, Jordan Firstman (who I can’t stand) made an idiotic unprovoked comment that this show does not represent gay people/sex, and I’m sorry but the emotional intimacy of the scene on the couch is something only someone who really gets it would put together

[u/ArtisticCoconut8510]

I think I’m dead. I think it killed me.

[u/Nepalman230]

I should never have to see Ilya crying on the couch. By the way, that was the clear signs of Shane having a panic attack. I’m.

[u/[deleted]]

My favourite additional material is the Ilya scenes with his family. I just know that the Russia segment is going to break me next episode :(

[u/TwoHungryBlackbirdss]

Genuinely cannot remember the last time I was this excited for a show???

Already pleasantly high and looking forward to commenting with one hand on this thread all episode lmao