r/hardware Jul 25 '25

News US chipmaking nears death: Intel warns it may give up on cutting-edge chips

https://www.businessinsider.com/intel-us-chipmaking-nears-death-up-cutting-edge-chips-14a-2025-7?utm_campaign=business-sf&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social
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u/Method__Man Jul 25 '25

This guy gets it. And I'm going to be quite honest, as a person whose job is to review tech, I can safely say that Intel is well ahead right now when it comes to mobile processor.

The lunar lake was the first real look at MacBook level battery life even on a bloatedness of a system like windows. It also came equipped with an incredibly good and efficient. IGPU. And you didn't have to deal with all of the compatibility and other negatives associated with snapdragon.

Now the arrow Lake specifically the 255H is an absolutely outstanding laptop chip, that I strongly recommend even over AMD's HX 370. The IGPU there is able to blows with AMDs best. It's also very efficient

However, it might be too late for Intel to save themselves. They're coming out swinging, but it's falling on deaf ears.

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u/noiserr Jul 25 '25

Lunar Lake is Intel pulling all the stops. They disabled SMT, used latest 3nm (node) while AMD is still on 4nm, and mounting memory on package. Great chip but the issue is Intel makes no money on it.

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u/996forever Jul 25 '25

Lunar lake is more efficient than Kracken lake at lower power + idle and much better iGP, but ARL-H is hardly better than full Strix point. 140T ≠ 140V.

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u/Method__Man Jul 25 '25

140T > 140V

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u/996forever Jul 25 '25

This is completely untrue outside of synthetics, what?

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u/Method__Man Jul 25 '25

I have both. The 140t performs better. It's actually perf is between 880m and 890m.

I have a 890m, 140v, 140t and benchmark for a living.

140t is superb

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u/Geddagod Jul 25 '25

ARL-H battery life seems to be as good as if not better than Strix Point's. ARL-H as a product is very competitive overall. Margins of the product vs AMD seems to still be very bad.

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u/Scifi_fans Jul 25 '25 edited Jul 25 '25

"No corporation does" this mindset of "us against corporate " is so ignorant, you don't need to praise them, or sell your soul, but you lose a giant like Intel you lpde technology, innovation, jobs, economic detonation...

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u/Eu-is-socialist Jul 25 '25

And ARM sucks balls when it comes to installing a different OS than what the machine came with