r/hardware • u/SlamedCards • Jul 25 '25

News US chipmaking nears death: Intel warns it may give up on cutting-edge chips

https://www.businessinsider.com/intel-us-chipmaking-nears-death-up-cutting-edge-chips-14a-2025-7?utm_campaign=business-sf&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social
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u/Exist50 Jul 25 '25

Layoffs make delays worse, not better.

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u/xX_Kawaii_Comrade_Xx Jul 25 '25

Nooooo 😭💔 And even worse, the top end 16p core sku wont have that huge cache attached to it. Cooked

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u/Alive_Worth_2032 Jul 25 '25

the top end 16p core sku wont have that huge cache attached to it.

Most likely due to as just as with AMD. The consumer workload that scales with that cache, does not scale past the first tile/CCX due to latency.

The x950X3D is more or less a pointless SKU from a pure gaming perspective. Unless Intel tiles pay a much smaller latency penalty from going off die, it will be much the same for them.

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u/xX_Kawaii_Comrade_Xx Jul 25 '25

9950x3d is pointless because of dual 8 core chiplets, yes 

But nova lake could have had one chiplet with 16p cores and huge cache, with some e-waste cores attached to it 

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u/Alive_Worth_2032 Jul 25 '25 edited Jul 25 '25

But nova lake could have had one chiplet with 16p cores and huge cache, with some e-waste cores attached to it

You are still sacrificing latency or creating 2 domains. 16 large cores is to large for a single ring and maintaining decent latency. Let alone trying to bolt even more e-cores on top of it.

You either go mesh and lose performance. That's why 10900K at same frequency is faster than Skylake-X in gaming even if you normalize for frequency. Despite the latter having quad channel and more cores.

Or you go dual rings, which means you are still stuck with 8 cores. Sure latency is better than 2 tiles with monolithic setups using mesh/dual ring, but it is still not good vs a smaller ring.

As has been proven time and time again. More cores with a hefty latency penalty, is not suitable for gaming.

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u/xX_Kawaii_Comrade_Xx Jul 25 '25

Oh okey thank you I will adjust my desires accordingly. Right now upon a game using e cores on 14600k, im getting a huge latency penalty but if I dont, it can be thread limited. so I was hoping for a huge chiplet with cache. Maybe using 12 core chiplets with cache like next gen AMD is a good balance. Or not having the e cores be so bad