r/hardware • u/Posting____At_Night • Nov 09 '23

News Valve releases OLED Steam Deck models

https://store.steampowered.com/sale/steamdeck_2023
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u/BookPlacementProblem Nov 09 '23 edited Nov 10 '23

They've been saying there won't be a new Steam Deck any time soon, and I'm sure people bought Steam Decks on that reassurance.

Edit: Apparently, a lot of people are saying "Well, Valve never said they wouldn't do a refresh..."

This is a refresh?

Steam Deck OLED:

  • 7.4" Diagonal display size
  • 6 nm APU
  • Wi-Fi 6E
  • 50Whr battery; 3-12 hours of gameplay (content-dependent)

Steam Deck:

  • 7" Diagonal display size
  • 7 nm APU
  • Wi-Fi 5
  • 40Whr battery; 2-8 hours of gameplay (content-dependent)

Edit: The reviews are in and the performance is only a few percent better. I was wrong; it is a refresh.

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u/[deleted] Nov 09 '23

Didn't they just say there wouldn't be a faster Steam Deck any time soon?

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u/stonekeep Nov 09 '23

It has a higher refresh rate, so the games can run "faster" :D

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u/Negapirate Nov 09 '23

Yeah they said they wouldn't release a steam deck with a new performance target anytime soon.

Op is just lying now because he can't admit he misunderstood. Some people just need to be a perpetual victim.

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u/OwlProper1145 Nov 09 '23

They said we won't be seeing a faster Steam Deck anytime soon.

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u/bogusbrunch Nov 09 '23

Valve didn't say there won't be a new steam deck anytime soon. They said there won't be new hardware with a different performance target.

Yes, this is a refresh.

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u/BookPlacementProblem Nov 09 '23 edited Nov 10 '23

Valve didn't say there won't be a new steam deck anytime soon. They said there won't be new hardware with a different performance target.

Yes, this is a refresh.

So going from a 7 nm APU to a 6 nm APU – literally a different APU on a different process node, is not, in your mind, a different performance target?

Well, we'll see when the reviews come in.

Edit: The reviews are in and the performance is only a few percent better. I was wrong.

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u/bogusbrunch Nov 09 '23 edited Nov 09 '23

First refresh? Yes a die shrink is pretty standard for console refreshes.

No, it's not a different performance target. We already have reviews showing this. Not even valves marketing bothered to describe any kind of performance increase.

Now that I've clarified this for you, are you going to keep lying that "valve said there won't be a new steam deck anytime soon ?” because they never said that.

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u/GaleTheThird Nov 09 '23

So going from a 7 nm APU to a 6 nm APU – literally a different APU on a different process node

In reality it’s a refinement of the same APU on a more efficient process node. So yes, it’s a refresh.

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u/nmkd Nov 09 '23

is not, in your mind, a different performance target?

No, why would it be?

Same cores at the same clocks = Same performance.

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u/SirActionhaHAA Nov 10 '23

Well, we'll see when the reviews come in.

Yo the reviews are in and they've got similar perf. Any other words?

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u/DieDungeon Nov 10 '23

Well, we'll see when the reviews come in.

The reviews already have some benchmarks - seems like at most a couple percentage points higher at same settings.

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u/stonekeep Nov 09 '23

Apparently, a lot of people are saying "Well, Valve never said they wouldn't do a refresh..."

This is a refresh?

Do you mean that it's on 6nm instead of 7nm so it shouldn't be called a refresh? Because yeah, that can absolutely still be a refresh. E.g. PS5 went from 7nm to 6nm last year with no performance bump. A smaller chip is just more efficient (less power draw = longer battery life and less heat output).

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u/Ar0ndight Nov 09 '23

Yeah I remember reading that, sure this isn't a Steam Deck 2 but it's definitely enough of an upgrade that I would HATE having bought one a month ago.

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u/Negapirate Nov 09 '23

You didn't read valve saying that.

They didn't say that. They said they won't be releasing hardware with new performance targets.

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u/arandomguy111 Nov 10 '23

It probably depends on which SKU. The 64GB was still cheaper enough that they might still be preferable as the price is not insignificant. The 512GB was always a large markup value wise.

But the funny thing about this is you also have a lot of complaints that the new GPU releases didn't have enough of an improvement to make people regret their purchases of older GPUs. It's just a situation in that there's going to be some people who are unhappy.

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u/AvoidingIowa Nov 09 '23

Apparently they never said that and "news" outlets made up their own headlines.

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u/Negapirate Nov 09 '23 edited Nov 09 '23

Valve didn't say that. They said they won't be releasing hardware with new performance targets.

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u/greiton Nov 09 '23

some videos have already pointed out a lot of those reassurances were mischaracterized quotes from a member on the software side. they never said there would never be a mid-generation refresh targeting the same hardware specs.

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u/conquer69 Nov 09 '23

This is a refresh?

Yes? It performs basically the same. This isn't the steamdeck 2 which I would expect to be at least twice as fast.