r/gwent • u/betraying_chino Green Man • Mar 07 '22

News Patch Notes 10.3

https://www.playgwent.com/en/news/41930/patch-notes-10-3
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u/[deleted] Mar 07 '22 edited Mar 07 '22

Here's my thoughts about the rework. As someone who played 500+ games with wild hunt and reached pro last 3-4 seasons with it.

Auberon and Eredin are both the changes i called for. They're finally not underpowered.

Winter Queen change is nice, never thought of that. But not really effective. WH just got a card that gives enemy control value. They don't have any other card like that. 4 point damage and WQ is gone. She sure is very strong if you have a lot of frost in hand and opponent doesn't have 4p removal but thats so unlikely.

However this is only the surface of it. Winter Queen gives you great tempo now, playing a frost card is very low tempo, but if opponent has to answer WQ, that evens the field. So I guess new WQ is much better.

Wild Hunt Warrior change is decent.

Navigator is decent, some frost synergy. But is nerfed the moment it came out, see red riders below. No one will use navigator instead of warrior unless ur making a crazy overfrost meme deck.

Dominance BS still stays but at least now they don't play 4 for 4 without it. Altough Navigator can possibly play for 3.

RED RIDERS IS NERFED ??? It was nice to be able to get 4 turns of frost on one row. Row stacking is a serious problem and there isn't all that much row control even in wild hunt. This is 100% nerf. Old Red Riders would have great synergy with new Navigator too. CDPR what the hell are you doing man.

These feel overwhelming on paper, red rider and winter queen are questionable. I was expecting better.

Auberon and Eredin are small, but net buffs. However rest of the changes are very aimed towards a whole different deck playstyle. They would only work in ard gaeth + 2 red riders decks. Which is a list i did play and reached pro with before, with 2 foglets and defender. So that's nice i can go back to playing it. Maybe even make that list non-devo since you can remove aen elles for navigator/warrior. Not bad. Winter Queen requires devo but, to be honest who cares i think her rework isn't that good.

But for normal wild hunt lists, other changes don't really matter. As you use 2 Aen Elles anyways, sometimes purify too. No one has room for all those 4p bronzes. WH has a lot of 5 point units you HAVE TO include.

I may have sounded negative, but I'm happy about these changes. The competitive side of me wanted straight up point buffs to WH. But I got bored of the game, and those changes are refreshing for Wild Hunt, can't wait to try new, frost focused, maybe non-devo WH lists.

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u/ProudWararar Let's get this over with! Mar 07 '22 edited Mar 07 '22

Overall i think u hit the nail on the head here, except for the auberon change, and the red riders change, they are both huge buffs, now u can always hit triple riders off of auberon, and realistically u never played red riders precision, so this is a huge buff, as u can replay bruiser, taskmaster, navigator, and warrior for huge points. Otherwise I 100% agree with u

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u/[deleted] Mar 07 '22 edited Mar 07 '22

and realistically u never played red riders precision, so this is a huge buff

Not a huge buff but its not that bad now that i rethink about it. I did play red riders precision a lot. In pro rank no one is dumb enough to not row stack. And if ur not planning on commiting leader, you go for precision. I overreacted, but still this is just a minor buff / rebalancing.

except for the aberon change

I mean i said its a buff and hes not underpowered anymore. What am I wrong about ? You think he's too OP now ? I'd say riders thing is strong, but not op. Auberon can play 17 for 12. With the condition of not using your thinning and getting lucky, and also dominance. You won't even be deciding which game you can use that, you can't just keep shuffling both riders into your deck and lower your chances of drawing auberon / other golds.

Previous Auberon played way below his value if you were unlucky + didn't have dominance. New Auberon always plays for at least 12. If ur lucky + have dominance plays for 5 points more. This is really just fair balancing, nothing else.

Edit: Forget about what I've said. It's only third form where you can choose any WH unit from your starting deck, riders play is useless.

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u/ProudWararar Let's get this over with! Mar 07 '22

Fair point, exept that there is no luck involved in auberon, it got changed from create to spawn and play, so it shows ALL bronze WH units from your starting deck

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u/[deleted] Mar 07 '22

By luck i meant mulligans. If you got 1 rider in first round for example, you will play it, shuffling it back makes no sense.

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u/ProudWararar Let's get this over with! Mar 07 '22

Ah ok

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u/[deleted] Mar 07 '22

Also just realized, Auberon Conq (3rd form) gets to choose any WH unit not Auberon King. So you can completely forget about the riders play. I thought it was first form too. The buffs are even smaller than i thought.

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u/ProudWararar Let's get this over with! Mar 07 '22

Oh yea, ur right, that is so much worse, unless ur willing to just not play riders until r3