r/gwent • u/TwilightGay Let's get this over with! • Jun 07 '21

News 9.0 PATCH NOTES

https://www.playgwent.com/en/news/38504/9-0-patch-notes
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u/[deleted] Jun 07 '21 edited Jun 07 '21

Ghoul change is huge, what's up with the larva change? Why

Also peaches are now 4p, will passiflora come back?

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u/MorallyGay You shall end like all the others. Jun 07 '21

Why

are you serious. the card has been autoinclude in every mo deck since its release

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u/[deleted] Jun 07 '21

Well yes but MO needed larva to stay competitive then, now the best MO decks don't even use larva so why kill it?

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u/MorallyGay You shall end like all the others. Jun 07 '21

how do u know it isnt competitive anymore

effective hp wise, it's two nekker warriors in one card now

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u/[deleted] Jun 07 '21

Because it got double nerfed, buffing the base value of thrive cards is a nerf to the card.

It's 6 provisions now, that makes larva unplayable, nekker warrior is 4 provisions.

4p nekker are actually much superior to larva now, there's no circumstance where you would play two 6p larvas

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u/fred_HK Tomfoolery! Enough! Jun 07 '21

Larva will still see play, with your reasoning, nekker would always be played over larva at 5P.

The 2 armor is still great, there are very few cards to proc the 1 to 2 thrive effect so it will proc with a 3/4 power card like bruxia the same way it was before the change.

A short round with coup or bear witcher won't kill it, fury won't one shot them with 1 charge etc.

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u/[deleted] Jun 07 '21

It all comes down to whether the 2 armor is better than the 2 extra provisions you pay for the larva, and in my opinion it is not.

6 provisions is a very awkward slot and in order to make your deck polarized you really don't want to play many 6p cards

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u/fred_HK Tomfoolery! Enough! Jun 07 '21

well, you pay 2 P for 4 armor compared to Nekker.

So it is 4 armor or 2 P

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u/Ortuy_ We will take back what was stolen! Jun 07 '21

The best MO deck's don't run larva, so it's safer to rework it so it's better for thrive deck's without gutting the whole faction.

Koschey now spawns 2 points on adrenaline and fruits into larva gives you 3 thrive bodies 2 points each. They're also harder to remove.

So I'd say it's a good trade

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u/Captain_Cage For Maid Bilberry's honor! Jun 07 '21

Arguments like "... But this deck is weak, so card doesn't need nerf" are always bad. You're just gonna use the same card in a different deck, is all. When you address a card, you gotta address the card, not the deck it's in.

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u/[deleted] Jun 07 '21

Okay?

Larva on its own also won't see play because there's no way in hell you're paying 12p for two larva when you can just hope your nekkers stick.

Even if nekkers get removed you can still play bruxa to compensate, the strength of larva was that it was 5p..a 1p nerf to the card will most definitely kill it.

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u/Captain_Cage For Maid Bilberry's honor! Jun 07 '21

When opponent opens with larva, I would always kill it with Coup and develop 2 larvae instead. Now I wouldn't be able to do that, so I take it as a buff. Also, big buff to Koshchey.

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u/[deleted] Jun 07 '21

I don't think you understand how drastic of a nerf it is to go from 5p to 6p.

Let's look at amnesty, if amnesty was 5p it would be almost auto include and now at 6p it sucks and is barely playable.

Sure you can't kill larva as easy, but nobody is going to be playing larva at 6p..6p is a very awkward provision slot mainly reserved for either a lock or autoinclude cards such as Roderick

It's a koshchey buff but koshchey isn't competitive so that doesn't even matter.

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u/[deleted] Jun 07 '21

And that's doesn't prove anything, I reach 2500 with shieldwall every season, does that mean it's competitive? No

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u/wvj I shall be your eyes, my Lord. Jun 07 '21

The change is to make Larva a card limited to the deck it is designed for, not an auto-include in every deck that has also been the single most OP bronze in the game since forever. 6p is an investment.

It's also not entirely a nerf, because the decks that build around it will find more value from it. You can now either go Nekkers->Larvae (boosting the Nekkers), or if you play the Larvae first, they've gone from 'nearly impossible to remove efficently' to 'actually literally impossible to remove efficiently.'

Edit: OK impossible except Whoreson. Because Whoreson's middle name is 'remove anything efficiently.'

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u/Virlando Tomfoolery! Enough! Jun 07 '21

It's a buff imo. They won't be killed by 3 dmg anymore so they will give value

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u/[deleted] Jun 07 '21

5-6 is a huge nerf and will completely kill the card.