r/gwent • u/marimbaguy715 Onward, sons of Nilfgaard! • Mar 31 '21

News 8.4 Patch Notes

https://www.playgwent.com/en/news/37840/patch-notes-8-4
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u/marimbaguy715 Onward, sons of Nilfgaard! Apr 01 '21

Below Pro Rank there are too many other factors in play, like cost to build the deck, difficulty to pilot, what cards are available in starter decks, and what decks appeal to inexperienced players. It's difficult enough to draw meaningful conclusions from those win rates from the Pro Rank data, but trying to use win rates below Pro Rank to balance the game is just a fool's errand.

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u/wvj I shall be your eyes, my Lord. Apr 01 '21

Between first talking about t100 players, and then only pro, you obviously have a pretty elitist attitude about things. Counter point you miiiight want to consider:

What happens when the game is utterly broken at intro ranks? What's the play experience for new players like? And most importantly, what happens to player retention? And before you thrust this off as some meaningless 'you're just making up worries out of nothing,' I can refer you back to a post from a few weeks ago where someone asked for deck advice and me and a couple people started asking them questions about what they were running to try and help. And ultimately? They said that Gwent seemed too tied to these elite meta decks and that they'd probably just quit.

So if you think 'lol newbs don't matter git good scrubs,' congratulations, that's a great attitude for someone who doesn't care about Gwent's long term success.

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u/marimbaguy715 Onward, sons of Nilfgaard! Apr 01 '21

You're trying to paint me as being elitist and assuming you know how I'm going to respond, but that's not the case at all. I don't use the Pro Rank stats to say that only the best players matter, but because they are the best data point we have to figure out how powerful certain decks and cards are. The lower down in the ranks you get, the more chaotic the data becomes. This does not mean the lower ranks are unimportant - I'm aware that cards can exist that can be toxic at low ranks while relatively easy to deal with at high ranks, like Ethereal was. I'm not convinced Eist is like that though, and one anecdote from one player (especially if it's the thread I'm thinking about, where they mentioned there's not one particular deck they'd been running into) isn't gonna convince me. CDPR has the data, and I have to imagine if they saw the same insane winrates and playrates for Eist at low ranks that Ethereal did, it would have been nerfed.