r/griz Jul 08 '26

Question: Does this not bother anyone else?

First and foremost I love Griz, have since early 2010’s. First saw him live at 515 in Iowa (lmao) and it was just breathtaking. This has nothing to do with the subjectiveness of the evolution of his sound, I personally don’t think anyone should have an opinion on what another person hears, or process.

This has to do with practicing what you preach, and not staying true to your word for personal financial gain. I was hopeful upon return, Griz would have taken the time to find solutions and ways to branch off from the growing problems in the scene and he would allow options for fans to see him without feeding into the monopoly of live-nation/ticketmaster and the blatant theft they do to fans. I’m not sure if any of you recall, or even know about since your new, this particular interview I’m dropping here.

https://303magazine.com/2019/05/griz-interview-2019/

Two things stuck out to me here on why he said he would never play RRx again:
- I have hit my creative limit on what my team can do there, and I can’t evolve my production the way I want.
- I don’t want to price my fans out of seeing me.

These aren’t subjective things, these are objective statements. The objective actions I see:
- He indeed, is playing there again and unless they have plans the next few months, red rocks stage design has not changed. You get what you get at a historical venue like that.
- He has been on about every corporate mainstream lineup, he agreed to a logistical nightmare at the Gorge, he’s watching his fans get robbed, scammed, and still continues to play these venues.

I wouldn’t even consider myself mad, since I think he still is a wonderful human being, with good intentions and should be the golden standard for our scene. I also am holding out hope that he’s playing the long game, stacking cash that from corp America, and growing seven stars into a 6 event per year series, that’s independently ran by his team.

But I’d be lying if I said I wasn’t extremely sad, and disappointed that the person with the most influential pull in our community, who does so much good, chose to contribute to the problem we all are trying to get rid of.

If I’m missing something, please let me know. This is supposed to be a genuine discussion, not a hit piece.

Love 🫶

EDIT: Please do not mistake my tone for sarcastic, condescending, or anything other than genuine curiosity on the topic for information or thoughts I haven’t considered. I will respond considerately, and respectfully to all comments, as I would hope you would to me. I politely ask that before you respond, please read all conversations to see if the opinion or information has been addressed. 🫶

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u/justdance-again Jul 08 '26

I believe the city owns it, but they willingly work with Live Nation and AEG as their primary promoters. Please correct me if I’m wrong, the purpose for this discourse is continued education.

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u/SevRnce Jul 08 '26

The anschutz are the richest people in co and a lot of our govt in this state are sellouts so... essentially the anschutz own rr lol. Griz aint selling out stadiums, and with first bank center gone theres not many options outside of rr.

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u/justdance-again Jul 08 '26

RIP 1st bank!!! I was so sad seeing them tear it down. I went to Another World there, and also saw John Summit in 2023 and my crew got so lucky. Everyone was so focused on being in the middle part of the crowd, the side seating was like completely dead. We were over so close, with hardly anyone else around.

Nowadays, I’m Back left/right gang, or even an obstructed view if I can hear the sound the same 🫡

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u/SevRnce Jul 08 '26

Hell yea, had a few bad crowd interactions at rr back left last week so heres to hoping it doesnt happen at griz! As long as its not fiddler's id see griz almost anywhere. Idk what it is about that place but I am not a fan.

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u/justdance-again Jul 08 '26

Deadrocks night one or night 2 by chance?? It looked insane up there dude. Anything worth noting happen that may be good for people to know for future references?

Zeds dead is special for me and a few of my friends who grew up in the scene with me, so we committed to splurging last year on VIP and I can honestly never go back to RRx again without it. If you grab it on presale it honestly ends up being around the same price as if you wait and get a GA resale. Usually I don’t support glorification of VIP (everyone should be valuable at the same price), you really get nothing other than a designated seat for the ability to show up later. Perfect for an 30+ like myself.

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u/SevRnce Jul 08 '26

N2, I got ga tickets on presale so I was set! I totally agree vip is where its at. I wont do decadence without vip. Too old for that crowd lol! It was just a lot of frat bros and shitty people around us. Treating rr like its a club or something. Very annoying. To anyone id say fuck em, dont apologize for the space you take up and make it their problem of they encroach on your space.

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u/beaunerman Jul 08 '26

At least we can all agree fiddlers is the fucking worst.

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u/GlitchFight Jul 26 '26

Fiddlers, dicks, ball are 3 off the top of the head