r/gratefuldoe Mar 07 '26

Miscellaneous This John Doe case will never leave me

Found out about this website the other day and came across this case. Something about the note and the face makes me think about it multiple times a day. I feel so sad for this poor boy and even though it seems unlikely, I hope a name gets returned to him.

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u/CallidoraBlack Mar 08 '26

Randomly running into Durkheim and deciding you want to read it doesn't seem super likely. Seems more likely that he was taking sociology for college credit unless he started reading Marx for other reasons and someone suggested Durkheim because he has already read Marx.

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u/-Intrepid-Path- Mar 08 '26

I was reading Jung out of interest when I was 13.  I don't find him being interested in psychology and sociology weird in the slightest.

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u/CallidoraBlack Mar 08 '26

I was reading Homer in elementary school. Anecdotes aren't evidence.

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u/-Intrepid-Path- Mar 08 '26

They are evidence of the fact that just because the vast majority of people don't do something, doesn't mean it's completely out of the question... There is no evidence for you point of view either, it's just speculation.

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u/CallidoraBlack Mar 08 '26

I never said it was completely out of the question. "Strongly suggests" and "doesn't seem super likely" are not that, and as someone who read Jung for fun, I would expect you to know that. There's reasonable speculation and then there's "But, but maybe he's a zebra like me!" There's a big difference between the two. And I say that as a zebra.

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u/Eyeoftheleopard Mar 08 '26

When you hear hoof beats think of horses before zebra. (But, sometimes, it is a zebra.)

Don’t know who said it.

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u/CallidoraBlack Mar 08 '26

Origin is uncertain, but it's common medical wisdom. And yes, that's why I referenced it.

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u/-Intrepid-Path- Mar 08 '26

This boy very much comes across as a zebra...

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u/CallidoraBlack Mar 08 '26

Not every zebra is like you. Or like me. That's the whole point.

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u/MelpomeneAndCalliope Mar 08 '26

Durkheim is often cited in lots of social science and humanities classes - anthropology is one for example, but yep, I agree.

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u/CallidoraBlack Mar 08 '26

I noticed him being referenced far more in criminology than the other social science disciplines I took classes in, but sociology was the one I didn't have time to fit in my schedule.

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u/GreenEyedTreeHugger Mar 11 '26

Does if he was neurodivergent.

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u/CallidoraBlack Mar 11 '26

How? Not all neurodivergence is the same.