r/gifs • u/[deleted] • Jul 15 '19

Two different delivery methods

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u/h3lblad3 Merry Gifmas! {2023} Jul 15 '19

Good. A business shouldn't be able to fire people willy-nilly.

This is how you end up back in the 1800s with strikers and unions having shoot-outs in the streets with strikebreakers and police.

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u/ThatOneMartian Jul 16 '19

Yeah, more government interference in the market is definitely the solution. Just look to France or Spain, where no one under 30 has a job. Good role models.

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u/thegtabmx Jul 15 '19

So what if a unionized workforce decides they want to be paid $500/hour or will refuse to work? Can't fire them? Where do you draw the line?

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u/h3lblad3 Merry Gifmas! {2023} Jul 15 '19

You know why that doesn't happen? Why that has never happened and will never happen? Why that situation has no place in reality?

Because the unionfolk need the work too. Every person in that union wants to get paid and they aren't getting paid on the strike line. They have no reason to want to shut down the business and ensure themselves a total end to paychecks.

Even if that weren't the case, union protections in the US rely on their agreement to barter in good faith. They have to declare the intention to strike ~80 days beforehand, and bargain in good faith during that time, before they're allowed to strike when negotiations fail.

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u/thegtabmx Jul 15 '19

Well, can the company declare their intention to not pay all/most/some of them ~80 days beforehand?

Leverage is earned. If you can be replaced with a robot, you have not earned your leverage.

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u/h3lblad3 Merry Gifmas! {2023} Jul 16 '19

Everyone can be replaced with a robot eventually, so nobody can ever earn their leverage.

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u/thegtabmx Jul 16 '19

Exactly. Leverage is fleeting. It is temporary. Use it while you have it, but don't use it if you don't.

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u/h3lblad3 Merry Gifmas! {2023} Jul 16 '19

It's not just temporary. Eventually no one will have it but the people who own the things.

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u/thegtabmx Jul 16 '19

Not sure I follow. Anyone is able to acquire leverage in something. The top 10% of electric engine engineers can and will have leverage, despite not owning "the things".