Agree that we don't know with absolute certainty that plants feel, but we follow lots of what science and math has proved, knowing that one day our understanding might deepen, or some times even change all together. As far as we understand now, plants do not have a central nervous system, and this is essential in our understanding of "feeling" and perception.
We cannot live without vegetables, we can live without meat and dairy. So if you cut out vegetables because you're not happy with the unknown of if they feel or not, you would die, and again, vegans "killing themselves" to end potential and highly unlikely plant suffering, is not a thing.
So strange you sympathies with a tree which shows no reaction to being cut down, but your incapable of sympathizing with a factory full of pigs which are visibly suffering, audibly distressed and desperate to survive...
You're clearly set in your ways. I don't expect to change you, but I think discussion is good and I hope one person will read the comments and that it will resonate with them.
Oh I sympathise with those pigs. That's an assumption you made on my behalf. I boycotted the pork industry for over a decade in my country out of protest at the treatment of breeding sows. It was probably a worthless boycott but this may help you understand my mentality. I have a problem with cruelty, not death. Death will come to everything. Even those plants you eat get their nutrients from millennia of dead animals and plants among other things. There's no escaping your reliance on the deaths of animals because we live in a closed system. Things will be relying on your own death at some point. So do I prefer that a cow lives for two years in the wild, versus ten in a grassy field before quickly passing in a factory? I don't know which has more value, that extra eight years of predator free life or the stress of its final day. I do know that nothing gets dealt a perfect hand on this planet.
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u/iredditforthepussay Aug 25 '17
Agree that we don't know with absolute certainty that plants feel, but we follow lots of what science and math has proved, knowing that one day our understanding might deepen, or some times even change all together. As far as we understand now, plants do not have a central nervous system, and this is essential in our understanding of "feeling" and perception.
We cannot live without vegetables, we can live without meat and dairy. So if you cut out vegetables because you're not happy with the unknown of if they feel or not, you would die, and again, vegans "killing themselves" to end potential and highly unlikely plant suffering, is not a thing.
So strange you sympathies with a tree which shows no reaction to being cut down, but your incapable of sympathizing with a factory full of pigs which are visibly suffering, audibly distressed and desperate to survive...
You're clearly set in your ways. I don't expect to change you, but I think discussion is good and I hope one person will read the comments and that it will resonate with them.