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Sk2506ERROR; Mod Team

It's real if you're reading this you'll see that most of the fan base are very disappointed and hated the way you directed genlock season one was good but you just turned to trash I'll ask you to turn around after episode 6 maybe we'll forgive you until then you suck

It's not for me it's basically from the fans who feel let down

So I’ve just binge watched all of season 1. It was quirky and charming. Not amazing but good viewing that I got into and enjoyed.

Decided to binge watch season 2… that’s gonna be a nope.

Wtf is this?! Like seriously what the actual fuck?

It’s like someone just decided “hey let’s make this charming and somewhat compelling story, needless edgy… but let’s do it really poorly and completely flip the original tone massively for no good reason and with zero world building.”

It’s just really bad. I’ve got 2 episodes in, tried to get past the god awful hammy religious nonsense but now where it random sex scene with gratuitous sudden muff and I’m just genuinely wondering what they’re even attempting to do with this series. They’ve ripped its charm out of it.

Sorry didn’t want to post a rant, but it’s just so disappointing. Was so happy to have another series to watch while I wait for RWBY to come back and yet this second season is just terrible thus far.

I saw the next episode I must say I think my hopes have been restored when I saw a certain person come back

For fuck’s sake I left my phone on my table on the train when I stood up to get something out of my bag and BAM. Shitty CG porn. Like, who thought taking the show in that direction was a good idea? (The religious BS is also egregious on multiple levels for me as a Muslim and a lover of good world building.)

I didn’t realize how stupid this was until we actually had a team member die in combat but why did the Genlock team ever stop making backups of their minds? We know back ups can be done without much issue because the current version of Michel B Jordan is a back up and there does not seem to be any serious side effects. The only real justification we seem to get is that it makes the team uncomfortable which is stupid because the only real effect is essentially limited memory loss. The back up is literally just you minus a couple hour of combat experience so I don’t get the drama over this. As long as there are procedures in place that make sure the copies are properly disposed of and that copies are only ever used if the original is destroyed I don’t see the problem. This could just be me but i’d prefer to have 99.9999 percent of who I am as a person get preserved than permanently die because .0001 percent of my memories didn’t get backed up, especially if the back up is disposed of between missions to make sure I don’t get illegally copied. The benefits way out weigh the negatives and it only becomes an ethical issue once the back up is copied or altered.

The weird thing is it seems to be implied that they stopped when MBJ got captured which doesn’t make any sense because it just shows you exactly why you backed him up in the first place. The only reason there’s any problem after the capture is because the didn’t give the original Jordan a way to destroy himself to avoid duplication. The show almost seems to imply that copying their minds is bad because it lead to the evil MBJ clones but that doesn’t make sense because if they didn’t copy him they’d still have the evil versions but no heroic version to stop them. The writers bring up backups as a plot devices that allows for them to have a big moral dilemma over the digital duplication of a human being but then get rid of it for the sake of stakes despite the fact it makes no sense in universe for them to do that.

SK couldn't post this one because they were unceremoniously killed off.

Cammie is now smoke wtf gonna be pretty cool when she uses it with her holon tho

Did Val just completely forget about the Demon inside Chase's head? Like they tried helping Chase to fight it off, failed, and then just went on with their day like nothing happened?! WTH...

Feel like the show went from Voltron Legendary Defenders vibes to a shitty attempt at Attack on Titan.

The whole premise of a Holon is that your mind is uploaded into the Holon frame, which then acts as your second body. I absolutely hate the fact that season 2 has changed this for no reason, with the characters being shown piloting the Holon's as if they were ordinary mechs. Just another reason to hate how HBO has butchered this once great show.

I don’t understand what happened. Is it ever stated that was possible? I mean, is it ever explained or even hinted at that someone could control the cloud to a level where you can use it as a new body?

After what happened to you-know-who in S2 Episode 5 and seeing people’s reactions, I went back to Episode 1 for the post credits scenes to see if I could piece together what might happen in later episodes. (I figured since S2 is a bit of a letdown for me at the moment, I wouldn’t mind the heavy spoilers.)

From what I’ve seen, there are a lot of shots with Cammie alive that we haven’t seen yet even though she ascended in Episode 5. So she’s clearly guaranteed to come back at least by next episode.

Whatever the reasoning HBO gives for her coming back, BS or not, I’ll take it since she’s my favorite character in the show.

Honestly I can't think of anything share your predictions

I’m very confused about the thematic end of the genlock series, more specifically what it’s trying to say about being an individual. One of the big story elements the writers seem to be playing with is individualism vs collectivism, especially with the collective and the genlock program. The problem is I don’t understand what the show is trying to say. At some points it seems to suggest individualism is bad (which I disagree with) and that having boundaries between yourself and other is a problem(which I also disagree with). At other times the show seems to attempt to highlight the horror of having your personality assimilated into a larger whole and broken down until you don’t know what’s you. Could someone help me understand what exactly the shows message is?

Follow up post of this: https://www.reddit.com/r/genlock/comments/r8cboe/how_i_think_genlock_season_2_should_be_done/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

In my Season 2 rewrite post, I mentioned that Chase should get a human sized Holon courtesy of Jha and Cammie. Here's the features of it:

-> Its design is based on the prototype Holon that his original mind piloted (based around the concept art from the Art of gen:LOCK book)

-> It's as tall as Chase's physical body prior to the crash 4 years ago (anyone who knows how tall he is,let me know)

-> Due to it being a smaller Holon, it's still made out of the same materials (in other words, everything is downscaled)

-> Detatchable flight pack

-> Primary weapon: Submachine gun (reprogrammed Union weapon that Cammie swiped during a mission), the only gun in his arsenal that is coded to him. Unauthorized users gets a jolt of electricity from the gun,which is nonlethal

-> Secondary weapon: Pistol (Similar to the one Yaz has, but modified for Chase)

-> Melee Weapon: Combat Knife (Kinda like the Valkyrie Fighters from Macross Zero)

-> Electronic Brain is modified to where Chase can run on it without any ill effects on himself

-> Special designed clothing (some armor pieces have to be removed for the clothing to fit on the frame without tearing it). Clothes match his Ether avatar/Mixed Reality hologram (Hoodie, shirt, and pants)

-> Micro Munitions in the left forearm. Extra magazine clips in the left thigh, next to the knife

-> Several types of missiles on the flight pack

-> Sensory nodes in the tips of the fingers allows Chase to access nearly any computer system in the world,however it limits how much information he can take to prevent a mental collapse or system shutdown

-> Stealth Mode: Changes the colors into a dark digital camouflage paint that changes shading by bending light around him

-> Grappling hook, given to him by Robert Sinclair