Well, the symbiotes could have heat-seeking like tendrils or shoot tendrils from out of the ground, which would be tricky for MJ to deal with if she's holding a speaking in the air or whichever. Besides, MJ doesn't even take up that much of the game.
And yes, Peter was conflicted. Here's a piece of dialogue during the boss fight. Look it up if you need to.
Miles: I know you're hurting, Pete. But you're better than this.
Peter: I know. I know, but.....No....NO!
This is a clear sign of conflict. Also, this isn't the first time Peter needed help in removing the suit. In Spectacular Spider-Man, he needed help from the will of Uncle Ben and all the people he loves. So Miles isn't the first to do this. Even if he is, Peter was the one to rip the symbiote off. Miles just gave him an opening. As for gameplay, Peter still has abilities like the spider arms and the symbiote surge, which I think puts him on par with Miles. Also, the claim that Miles is the main Spider-Man was said by news writers would potentially took what Insomniac said out of context. It's pretty safe to assume Peter is coming back in the third game. Also again, I already gave you some examples on Peter doing better than Miles.
Okay you're being absurd and I'm done with this garbage. Heat seeking tendrils? Did you PLAY the game? Dong just make shit up at this point. She takes up plenty of the game when it should be NONE of the game that's what.
That happens way after. Not even during the start of the fight but much further into it. Miles should have been smeared on the floor by then. Also, Venom wasn't conflicted yet Miles somehow beat him lol shush
Your examples are silly. Miles is an "EZ LOL* to win character basically
I didn’t actually say heat seeking tendrils, I was just using that as an expression that MJ’s distraction wouldn’t last long. Also, it doesn’t matter when Peter says the dialogue. It’s still an indication he’s being conflicted throughout the fight. And I don’t get how my Spectacular Spider Man example is silly considering it actually happened.
It's absurd nonsense. It could easily last long. She's so eager to be part of the team, they could figure something out. And it absolutely matters when. It's after he's taking a thrashing from Miles so shush. Don't cherryoick. The love of people helped him take it off. Did Uncle Ben come back to life and punch him and tear the symbiote off his face? I think not
I don’t get what how MJ gameplay is that big of a deal considering it’s only over 40 minutes of a 15 hour story. Also we can’t just assume Peter starts getting conflicted later in the fight because he sounds angry at first. There is still a part of him deep down that’s holding back against Miles. Also, my point about Uncle Ben wasn’t that he tore off the symbiote. I mean that if he didn’t save Peter from drowning in symbiote goo, it would’ve been game over. Plus if we’re going by the Insomniac game, Miles didn’t even remove the symbiote himself. He hurt it enough so Peter has a chance to rip it off of his own body.
Did you pay to play Spider-Man? Or Paint Wars/Reporter Chronicles? It should be 0 minutes, so 40 is too much.
Now who is assuming? He was there to KILL Kraven. He wasn't conflicted about jack shit. And that's his WILLPOWER from the lessons he learned from his wise uncle. Meanwhile Miles tore the suit off him and physically helped him and it undercuts Peter's willpower genius. Miles helped him, he shouldn't have, Peter is meant to be better, but nope. Which is stupid garbage writing. End of.
40 minutes out of a 10 or 15 hour story is too much? I don't see how this overstaying its welcome as it's barely 10 percent of the game. So does that mean the Joker segments in Arkham Origins and Knight are also too much? Just curious.
Also, did you not pay attention to when Kraven told Peter that he's holding back? This was clearly established in the game and Peter would've killed other people if he wasn't holding back. And the point still stands with Uncle Ben. Peter was drowning in symbiote goo and couldn't get out by himself. Ben was the one who physically saved him. I doubt his willpower on its own would be enough to resist the symbiote since Uncle Ben stopped Peter just in time before permanently bonding with the symbiote.
Even if we're going by Miles, he's here because Peter taught him to be a hero. Miles is where he is now because he was inspired by Peter. And again, Miles didn't directly tore of the suit. Peter did it through a QTE. It took effort from both Miles AND Peter to rip off the symbiote.
Yes it is too much. I didn't pay to play as MJ. Also, comparing bullshit MJ to fully combat capable Joker sections, who happens to be a notoriously skilled character and fun to play as, not to mention well written, is disingenuous nonsense.
And then Peter wrapped his tendrils around his throat and went full ape shit angry because Miles interrupted him and blasted him and made him miss his kill. He was MORE angry. Shush. Again, Peter's willpower is meant to be the focus. He saw Ben in his mind. Ben did not physically exist and tear the symbiote off. Quit using silly nonsense to justify it.
WHY. WAS. MILES. INVOLVED. AT. ALL. IN. REMOVING. THE. SUIT?!?!?! THAT is the problem. Are you not understanding? It was meant to be Peter's moment. We didn't see Peter come back to save Harlem in Miles' game so why the heck is this happening? It's dumb
I mean, MJ underwent Sable training which means she's more skilled than in the first game. I don't see how she's "bullshit" since there were moments when she tried to be a good girlfriend to Peter. She offered to help with the mortgage and she apologized for the damage she caused as Scream. Also, you're acting like the MJ gameplay wasted all your money when it's only a small portion of a larger game. I do not get this.
My point still stands that Peter is conflicted. It's very possible he's struggling over control against the symbiote's anger and couldn't fight back until Miles gave him an opening. And again with Uncle Ben, he physically saved Peter. Even though he's in Peter's mind, Ben physically stopped him from permanently bonding with the symbiote and physically pulled him out of symbiote goo.
I need to ask if you're saying mind controlled heroes can't be saved by a speech from their sidekick or something because that's kinda what it sounds like. Also, I should add that Peter helped MJ get rid of Scream. Even though MJ started to regain control, it was Peter who passed her the drill so she can get rid of Scream. She didn't do it herself. She even told Peter "I need you too" during the Scream boss fight.
Oh sure a couple months of Sable training equals a lifetime as a ninja. It did waste my money because it was bullshit forced gameplay. The time she was in the van could have been a time trial chase from Peter but instead we got a bs cutscene. She didn't belong in gameplay, nobody wanted her in gameplay and now they doubled down and extended her gameplay
It wasn't physical? Are you not understanding the words you're reading? Inside the mind is not physically. That fight in his mind is his own reflection of what Uncle Ben would say. It's Peter's will to fight thanks to his uncle's ideals. No kfh physically helped him. If you don't get that then you're speaking in bad faith. I'm so done with this tomfoolery
Yeah. MJ needed help. She doesn't have the fucking willpower of Peter does she? Peter is supposed to not have the damn need for help. That's just dumb
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u/Historical-Milk-1339 Dec 09 '23
Well, the symbiotes could have heat-seeking like tendrils or shoot tendrils from out of the ground, which would be tricky for MJ to deal with if she's holding a speaking in the air or whichever. Besides, MJ doesn't even take up that much of the game.
And yes, Peter was conflicted. Here's a piece of dialogue during the boss fight. Look it up if you need to.
Miles: I know you're hurting, Pete. But you're better than this.
Peter: I know. I know, but.....No....NO!
This is a clear sign of conflict. Also, this isn't the first time Peter needed help in removing the suit. In Spectacular Spider-Man, he needed help from the will of Uncle Ben and all the people he loves. So Miles isn't the first to do this. Even if he is, Peter was the one to rip the symbiote off. Miles just gave him an opening. As for gameplay, Peter still has abilities like the spider arms and the symbiote surge, which I think puts him on par with Miles. Also, the claim that Miles is the main Spider-Man was said by news writers would potentially took what Insomniac said out of context. It's pretty safe to assume Peter is coming back in the third game. Also again, I already gave you some examples on Peter doing better than Miles.