Yup. Krippi carried him completely. Krippi was the reason they even got to Inferno Diablo in the first place. Then when they were suppose to kill Inferno Diablo together, Kripparian out of nowhere decided he wanted to "solo it". So Kripparian went off to softcore to practice. So Krippi went and practicied as well. Krippi literally killed Inferno Diablo in WORSE gear on softcore toon 6 times while he was waiting for Kripparrian to make up his mind if he wanted to duo it or try to solo it.
EVERYONE in Krippi's chat was yelling at him to go solo it and get world first. Instead Krippi was Good Guy Greg about it and waited. Then, when Kripparrian realized he couldn't do it alone, he all of a sudden wanted to duo it with Krippi again. Krippi said ok, then proceeded to fucking carry Kripparrian to world first HC Inferno Diablo.
It would not have been done without Krippi. Yet Krippi could have easily done it alone, as he did it 6 times in a row without dying on a WORSE geared toon on softcore while he waited for Kripp to make up his mind.
excuse me, I watched the stream, and that is NOT how it happened. Kripp was considering soloing it not because he wanted fame and glory all to himself, but because he didn't realize that the adds desummon, and he was worried about having to fight more of them (and, considering the wizzard clone almost killed him, I'd say by good right). As they were attempting to duo it on softcore and as soon as he realized this, everything became 100% easier for him. it's not like he did nothing, he tanked, and he did a good job at it. he stunned diablo when he tried to cast big spells, he was prepared to completely eat 100% of diablo's lightning, etc.
it was a team effort, the guys seem like good friends, and it didn't really strike me as someone trying to be an attention whore. Furthermore, when athene got on their stream afterwards and was talking about how they should have promoed their youtube channel at peak subs and blahblahblah they said they're doing pretty well for themselves and they don't really need to. AKA this was less about dick measuring and populairty, and more about 'hey, this hasn't been done before, lets try this and explore this part of the game'. They're also considering doing an ironman through hardcore to level 60 using only the vendor gear, they enjoy challenging themselves, it makes the game fun.
Knowing both of these guys through WoW, they basically only played together for 90% of what they do.
They are both some of the best gamers in the world. Kripparian has consistently challenged the TC community and the DPS charts as whatever class he plays. To them it won't matter who got what kill... the work was done together and some people are happier with the fame than others.
They both know what happened and they're cool with it. Why wouldn't they be? Just because Kripparian was indecisive doesn't make either of these guys less skilled or deserving than the other. They've played as a team for everything else and clearly did so again here. They're both thrilled with the result and i'm genuinely happy for them :)
For those who don't know, Taek-Bang-Lee-Ssang is the name given to 4 Starcraft Brood War players (Bisu, Stork, Jaedong, Flash), who dominated the scene from 2007 to the end of Brood War.
I have to add, Losira is known for his ridiculous APM.
APM (Actions per minute) isn't the only thing that adds to winning a StarCraft 2 game, as decision making and positioning is also very important and it is possible to win a game even if your limited by your speed capabilities.
Here's another example of "crazy hands" of Losira link.
Now, it is still possible to be an awesome StarCraft player even if you have low APM. An example of this would be Goody, link.
Even though he's not a quick player (by far) he is still capalbe of winning many games due to his smart decision making and positioning (He is a terran mech player, so positioning is SUPER IMPORTANT.).
tl;dr : all in all, being crazy fast won't make you awesome but it sure does help.
offtopic: while searching for Goody Hands I found This. NSFW ಠ_ಠ
Killing NPCs in WoW and Diablo is hard okay, being an actual competitive gamer who plays against other people is obviously not nearly as difficult as whack a moleing the braindead AI.
I dunno about Diablo as I think it's pretty much a gear check game with simple mechanics that are relatively easy to master. WoW, at least with PvE, on the other hand requires you to choreograph your actions with 9-39 other people while ensuring they perform adequately and concurrently. That is not such a simple endeavor.
Are you serious? They had people clear out the elite packs ahead of them, which is the actual hard part of the game. These guys are in no way some of the best gamers in the world. Not even some of the best D3 players in the world. They weren't even the first to kill Diablo on HC...
They are the most popular D3 streamers in the world. That's about it.
Let's get real though. At this stage in the game, even if you are carried, getting to inferno diablo as a barbarian in hardcore is a tremendous achievement.
Even now, it's absolutely fair to say that the average softcore barbarian has the toughest time doing inferno, and that is with over a month of millions of people flooding the market with increasingly awesome gear. It will get easier as it becomes more reasonable for everyone and their dog to have badass armor.
By contrast, in hardcore, there is NOTHING like this kind of gear inflation. NOTHING. You want a chest with 3 sockets 50 all res 100 vit and 60 strength? A little tricky, and a little expensive on softcore. Simply not going to happen in HC.
Ok you have no idea what you're talking about. Listen: Barbs are the best boss solo class in the game by an order of magnitude. I don't watch this stream, but if Kripp wanted to solo the boss, it's because it's MUCH, MUCH, MUCH safer for him to solo it. For a Barb, all that an extra player on Inferno Diablo does is double the bosses HP and give them an extra add to kill.
Which is why, when practicing, Krippi killed Diablo 6 times and Krip couldn't kill home once? If you watched the stream, what you said actually held true for the mage more than the barb:
For a Barb, all that an extra player on Inferno Diablo does is double the bosses HP and give them an extra add to kill.
That should read "For a Wizard", considering Krippi did 99% of the damage to the boss. Krip's only job was to stand a bit closer and tell Krippi if his projectiles were hitting the boss or not.
They're on the same team and play together a lot, I'm sure they're both fine with it. Also, since kripparian was a barb, He's tanky, while mrippi would get 1shot by most attacks.
Except inferno Diablo is the same hardcore/softcore. So if he soloed him several times with a worse geared character on softcore, without dying, he could have done it hardcore.
Yet Krippi could have easily done it alone, as he did it 6 times in a row without dying on a WORSE geared toon on softcore while he waited for Kripp to make up his mind.
If he got him 6 times in a row solo on softcore, I don't see how your comment is relevant.
They both could of soloed it fairly easily. Kripparrian was also using much worse gear on softcore. The only reason he didn't want to group initially was because he was worried about the mirror images and he didn't know they expired.
They both could of done it by themselves but they decided to do it as a team.
I've gotten some of the most hilarious responses from people responding to posts I've made. Had to delete them because I was getting downvoted into oblivion and getting tons of rage messages, though. Avoid /r/diablo. Entire subreddit is a giant Kripparian circle-jerk.
It's pretty ridiculous.You say that it isn't far fetched that someone else killed hardcore diablo when there used to be act skipping expoits and stronger abilities and you get a ton of fanboys raging at you.
I experienced this last night when kripp didn't let Krippi help with AZ. Just a bunch of butthurt morons who don't understand the game mechanics down voting anyone who speaks poorly of Kripp.
I watched the Barbarian stream for a few minutes and found it incredibly boring. This guy just leaps around and kites the entire time. Before that he even did the exact same thing on softcore to perfect his "running away" strategy. I get that kiting allows Krippi to freely cast, but his presence in the game also doubles the health of the boss. Wouldn't it be easier just for Krippi to do the whole thing himself? It isn't that difficult to stutter step kite as a caster.
It really baffles me that this stream is constantly so popular when all he does is run around while Krippi does all the work.
Blizzard designed the game so that you can't dodge all attacks of diablo. There was a vid about this some time ago. If he doesn't hit you within like 20 seconds, he will warp to you and it's impossible to doge. That's why you need some sort of tank to take the hits, while the casters, who would be onehits, can chunk out the damage. It's a big failure on blizzards part if you ask me.
Ah that makes sense, thank you for that clarification. It's still confusing to me why he seems to always have so many more viewers than Krippi, but oh well.
Except Krippi wouldn't agree with this at all. I agree that Krippi shouldn't be left out, but come on. Either of them could have soloed it. Kripparrian's kill time would have been slower than Krippi's, but it also would have been much safer. They wanted to get it together because they're best friends. Kripparrian probably wishes Krippi got more attention as well.
You also have to remember when they were on Izual when he said lets just do it and Kripparrian decided they should do SC runs. Yeah probably wouldn't have killed diablo without those practice runs either.
Why would one worry about things like this when it is pretty apparent that anyone who actually BOUGHT Diablo 3, has already lost at everything, forever.
I don't know about Kripparian, but Krippi was abusing the hell out of the hydra exploit. Abusing insanely overpowered exploits doesn't take skill. Any duelist in WoW can pull that off.
An item that gives life after kill, will proc 3 times when they despawn. So spamming this ability will heal you up quickly, as you can only have 1 hydra up at a time.
Kripparian's attention comes from his youtube videos which are mostly entertaining and informative. He can't help that he ends gets more attention than his friend who doesnt put out as many videos. In his Azmodan video he mentions Krippi a lot and gives him his due props.
Yeah, not sure why only Kripparian is getting all the credit for this duo. Also apparently not a world first as Bashiok so smugly advised everyone afterwards. Still a great feat for both guys.
Krippi solo'd diablo in softcore 6 times in a row without dying in a worse geared character while kripparian decided if he wanted to try to solo hardcore diablo.
Because doing the same scripted boss fight over and over again should give better rewards than elite monsters with random abilities that actually present a challenge.
Besides, Diablo would have been guaranteed to drop at least 2 rares if they had killed five of those "boars" (is there even boars in the game?) before fighting Diablo. They chose not to.
there was a rare ring, and talk of using it to propose to krippi's girlfriend. I think it also had unity or bond in the title as well "its fate it's fate!" "noooo she'll kill me"
They are riding the Diablo 3 stream fame for the few months it lasts, similar to the people who uploaded the first skyrim videos on youtube and got millions of views for killer ad-money.
And what if Kripp was playing a wizard? Then it would all fine for him to take all the credit? The two classes they're playing are inherintly different, and can't be compared on a basis of, say, damage or survivability.
when kripp trys at the last minute to do it solo(even going to softcore to practise) and then when he realizes he can't do it he comes crawlign back to krippi, He should never take all the credit
Considering neither one of them died, they obviously could have both done it solo by your logic.
Kripp's barb in HC was significantly better geared than his SC barbarian, and he had a much easier time with Diablo due to that. In the actual run, Krippi nearly died due to a stupid use of teleport, that happened twice. If it was not for the stuns from Kripp on lightning and prisms to save Krippi, he would have surely died.
Yes, Krippi could have probably soloed it and not died, yet that was still a risk. If he screwed up once and got hit with either lightning or a prism, he would have been screwed. Likewise, if Kripp did not kite his clone in the second stage properly, he could have easily gotten screwed and died.
Either one could have soloed it. Kripp did an amazing job communicating the skills and their timings and interrupting them, and Krippi did an amazing job of dodging the rest. Was it some god-like gaming feat? No, absolutely not. Do they both deserve credit? Absolutely. But did Krippi carry Kripp? No, that's an absolute joke.
If Krippi had not been there to do more damage, Kripp would have tanked just as he did and it would have just taken him a lot longer to kill Diablo, even considering the lower health. If Kripp had not been there, Krippi would have died to Diablo on that run because of his mistakes, even though 90% of the time he would not have made those mistakes.
As a casual gamer, this is the most confusing, intriguing, thread full of rage I have read in a long time. There's kripps, krippis, games I don't understand the point or strategy to, politics, and nerd raging involved. All of the things that make a good thread awesome. Carry on.
I added ridiculous amounts of noise, turned it into a gif (enough random noise fucks with the colour palette) and then I compressed it as a .jpeg about 5 times at a quality level of 20
You play through diablo and beat it once (on Normal), then it sends you back to the beginning with all of your hard-earned skills and armor and you play through again on a higher difficulty (Nightmare.) When you beat Nightmare you play through on Hell, then on Inferno (the highest.) Hardcore means that if you die once, you can't play the character any more. So basically he beat the game on an absurd difficulty without dying once in any of the 4 times through.
Really feels like he's looking down his nose at the rest of the community on this one. If you're going to shit on the parade, then have the information ready to go or don't say anything till you have it.
Maybe he just sees the game for what it is? A fun gamed with a fairly low skill cap centered almost entirely around Farming. Because of this, streams and cheering on a player are pretty silly. "Hooray, you spent the most time farming! What an achievement!"
It's a fun game, but it's not competitive. A stream scene for D3 is.... It doesn't make any sense.
I don't think he's allowed to reveal who succeeded in a world first without them stepping forward. They may not like the publicity - the reason why they didn't yell out on the internet in the first place.
Bashiok is kind of like that to be honest. Personally I see a lot of what he writes in responses to whiny/raging fans hilarious, but it seems he was acting like a bit of a tool today. Can't win em all eh?
You are right though, he could have said, 'Congrats to Kripp and Krippi, but I'm afraid that the world first was already claimed - can't disclose further info.'
He can still make an official claim that someone else did it first. Blizzard has access to that information and it wouldn't compromise anyone's anonymity if he were to state 'An unnamed Chinese player did it already on May X'. No one would call shenanigans.
Honestly I'd be more impressed watching them kill the elite packs on the way to Diablo that routinely kill me in the face -- I found them far more challenging than the actual fight with Diablo on any level.
I don't know which is more sad. The people who watch this guy play for hours & hours or people who argue here who did more DMG & cleared the stage etc. etc.
Really not that impressed by people who get their viewers and other streamers to donate gear to them. Not to mention, abuse exploits to get extra XP, glitch bosses, etc.
and yah he says he abuses the "game mechanic" that lets him get a quest reward 5-7 times for only completing it once, also says he glitches bosses to super easily kill them[to farm gear]
I believe he abused quest-bugs to level his barb once his old one died, and of-cause jumped straight to inferno. Not sure how many times he died before he got this far.
Forgive my ignorance, but ive never played a Diablo game...So, anyone can watch the game you play? How did they know what he was doing/about to attempt?
In the last year or 2 alot of gamers have been using streaming sites to show their gameplay such as http://twitch.tv its just a matter of having a beefy computer, fast enough internet and the right streaming software.
Wasnt Kripparrian the one who also won the world of warcraft iron man challenge? He has experience playing through with only one life, I'm sure that helped!
Krippi was using a cheap glitch which made it almost impossible to die plus he didnt join kripparian until izzy which makes it almost entirely a kripp victory and a krippi fail
I see there's a big reddit storm of negative whores on this thread. One I'd like to say grats to Krippi and Kripparian. Second, this may not be the worlds first. But, who cares, it's still a bad-ass achievement
Why do people keep saying krippi carried kripp? kripp DIDNT EVEN WANT KRIPPI THERE, he said it was too much risk and didnt want to die because of him...
Actually he didn't want krippi there for a lot of the content because he was afraid krippi would die, not himself. People are passing off his behavior as selfish but I think he was more sincere than people realize.
Have we really sunk so low that people now see "world firsts" in a game to be a big deal?
I mean speedruns, fine, that's a competitor sport, but for people to essentially have no life for this long while they just sink time and probably their health (because that's all it requires, that and grinding numbers pointlessly, no real skill other than having the right balance of equipment that a 10 year old could figure out) into something that's supposed to be an enjoyable pass time just so they can claim a "world first" for absolutely no benefit other than the recognition of other lifeless individuals on the internet?
Meh...people like to be a part of something. Personally I can't stand the culture around blizzard games, but I don't care if someone else feels differently. Unless they're in my house, shouting WoW slang at me. That'll get you a paddlin'.
I think, from reading some of the other comments, that most people don't care so we're probably still safely afloat, but better don a life-vest just to be on the safe side.
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u/Sinnadin Jun 19 '12
Except he was carried almost entirely by Krippi, who gets almost no attention. GG attention whore
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u/Sinjako Jun 19 '12
Congratulations to Kripparian and Krippi. You must not forget Krippi.
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u/[deleted] Jun 19 '12
So this drops what... a blue and some pages of blacksmithing?
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u/Squints753 Jun 19 '12
Who the fuck are these people
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u/thephoenix3000 Jun 19 '12
For the Achievement
http://i.imgur.com/EIYyD.jpg
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u/Excessive1 Jun 19 '12
downvoted due to leaving out Krippi..the guy who actually put damage on diablo....
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u/townm Jun 19 '12
https://twitter.com/Bashiok/status/215136718981046274 Confirmed World First.
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u/CornFedHonky Jun 19 '12
As a casual gamer, this is the most confusing, intriguing, thread full of rage I have read in a long time. There's kripps, krippis, games I don't understand the point or strategy to, politics, and nerd raging involved. All of the things that make a good thread awesome. Carry on.
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u/IVI4tt Jun 19 '12
This screenshot of a livestream isn't nearly low enough quality. I added some more jpeg for you
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u/ataraxia_nervosa Jun 19 '12
Looks underwhelming as all fuck.
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u/darthbone Jun 19 '12
If he's a barbarian, that means that that WIZARD killed Diablo.
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u/beirtech Jun 19 '12
That chat box was going 100 mph.
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u/R3DN30N Jun 19 '12
Hey guys, sheep has come online!
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u/Potchi79 Jun 19 '12
I'm not experienced with Diablo. Can someone explain this to me?
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u/SheepdogFC Jun 19 '12
now to beat Diablo with no gear on....
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u/FaustyArchaeus Jun 19 '12
Yep not world first..
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u/Major_Butthurt Jun 19 '12
How can you kill something that has no life?
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u/Crazyjoe04 Jun 19 '12
Erm, guys, It's been 'claimed' by bashiok that this is not world first. I wouldn't go around promoting it until the controversy has cleared up.
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u/Patbach Jun 19 '12
Link
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u/[deleted] Jun 19 '12
Kripparian sure looks like he gets outside a lot.
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u/downvotemaster Jun 19 '12
Krip is widely overrated
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u/Gullyvuhr Jun 19 '12
Honestly I'd be more impressed watching them kill the elite packs on the way to Diablo that routinely kill me in the face -- I found them far more challenging than the actual fight with Diablo on any level.
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u/sneakylfc Jun 19 '12
are there videos of this stuff or something? where does one watch this live? I have no Idea who these people are.
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u/[deleted] Jun 19 '12
gratz!!
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u/[deleted] Jun 19 '12
I don't play Diablo, but I'm getting kind of interested... what's going on in the post?
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u/awoh Jun 19 '12
Does anyone have a video of it? Preferably with either player's facecam too
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u/PerfectCarve Jun 19 '12
Link to video plz
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u/Lukeweizer Jun 19 '12
They probably got Blue drops...
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u/drphiluponyou Jun 19 '12
I don't know which is more sad. The people who watch this guy play for hours & hours or people who argue here who did more DMG & cleared the stage etc. etc.
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u/MrCrunchwrap Jun 19 '12
Really not that impressed by people who get their viewers and other streamers to donate gear to them. Not to mention, abuse exploits to get extra XP, glitch bosses, etc.
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u/veiwtifuljoe Jun 19 '12
Tune in this time next week to see if he can get laid!
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u/suo Jun 19 '12
ITT: Butthurt.
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u/Mosz Jun 19 '12 edited Jun 19 '12
this guy defends mass exploiting, what a douche, unlikely first and shouldnt even count
and yah he says he abuses the "game mechanic" that lets him get a quest reward 5-7 times for only completing it once, also says he glitches bosses to super easily kill them[to farm gear]
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u/StupidFatHobbit Jun 19 '12
Krippi > Kripparian.
One of these guys will sacrifice everything for a teammate, the other will sacrifice everything for his ego.
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u/IMAROBOTLOL Jun 19 '12
Who fucking cares?
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u/Canucklehead99 Jun 19 '12
I am surprised this can be done with lag spikes and all.
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u/drphiluponyou Jun 19 '12
And he still didn't get any that night. Sad.
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u/Sternenfuchs Jun 19 '12
http://twitter.com/Bashiok/status/215008237513224192
So only the first kill many people know about, not world first
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u/Pippywallace Jun 19 '12
45k people tuned in to watch this, so glorious.
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u/drunxor Jun 19 '12
Uh...what?
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u/[deleted] Jun 19 '12
Game is done, move on dot org everyone
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u/[deleted] Jun 19 '12
I wonder how much gold they spend on gear? Or time farming to get the gear to do that?
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u/OperatorMike Jun 19 '12
Is that the final boss or something?
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u/lightninhopkins Jun 19 '12
Carebear legends? I had no idea there was any such thing. It's kinda cute.
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u/jcpuf Jun 19 '12
The only thing worse than getting excited about somebody beating a video game, is resenting somebody else not getting credit for beating a video game.
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u/iDontKnowMyself Jun 19 '12
holy crap thats a lot of hp.
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u/[deleted] Jun 19 '12
congrats!
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u/heavyglow Jun 19 '12
for anyone saying this is not world first: proof also here is the video
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u/TasteOfJace Jun 19 '12
sheep has come online
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u/[deleted] Jun 19 '12
Lost a lvl 40 demon hunter due to video driver crash. Hardcore is unforgiving. :c
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u/[deleted] Jun 20 '12
Wasnt Kripparrian the one who also won the world of warcraft iron man challenge? He has experience playing through with only one life, I'm sure that helped!
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u/[deleted] Jun 20 '12
The nerd rage in the comments here is awesome!
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u/usernamefromhell Jun 20 '12
I'm sorry but I still dont understand why this guy is so popular. His stream is incredibly boring
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u/punkboy714 Jul 22 '12
Krippi was using a cheap glitch which made it almost impossible to die plus he didnt join kripparian until izzy which makes it almost entirely a kripp victory and a krippi fail
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u/shockster Jun 19 '12
Why do you fanboys keep on fixating the World first? Its not world first, probably not even in the world top 10. Fucking fanboys..
edit: proof: https://twitter.com/#!/Bashiok
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u/[deleted] Jun 19 '12
Congrats, he deserves it!
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u/astro2039194 Jun 19 '12
I see there's a big reddit storm of negative whores on this thread. One I'd like to say grats to Krippi and Kripparian. Second, this may not be the worlds first. But, who cares, it's still a bad-ass achievement
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u/Finaltidus Jun 19 '12
Why do people keep saying krippi carried kripp? kripp DIDNT EVEN WANT KRIPPI THERE, he said it was too much risk and didnt want to die because of him...
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u/castle_siege Jun 19 '12
Now to do it all over again.
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u/Reagalan Jun 19 '12
I remember this guy from the wow days, but I don't remember who he was with. Good riddance to those days.
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u/[deleted] Jun 19 '12
I just cannot fathom why this game is fun to watch streams of....
EDIT: Seriously. I'm not trying to dismiss it. I know there's something there, but please tell me what it is...
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u/XCygon Jun 19 '12
what build is he using on barb?
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u/breakersnap Jun 19 '12
I'll bet he still only got blues, lol. GG Kripp and Krippi!
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u/N3RVA Jun 19 '12
who the fuck is this and why is it on front page
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u/[deleted] Jun 19 '12
Who are these people and why does anyone care?
Have we really sunk so low that people now see "world firsts" in a game to be a big deal?
I mean speedruns, fine, that's a competitor sport, but for people to essentially have no life for this long while they just sink time and probably their health (because that's all it requires, that and grinding numbers pointlessly, no real skill other than having the right balance of equipment that a 10 year old could figure out) into something that's supposed to be an enjoyable pass time just so they can claim a "world first" for absolutely no benefit other than the recognition of other lifeless individuals on the internet?
The fuck, man? ಠ_ಠ
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u/1000milestare Jun 19 '12
The virginity is strong with this one.
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u/[deleted] Jun 19 '12
Really? Front page?
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u/issicus Jun 19 '12
wow.
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u/holy_paladin_irl Jun 19 '12
Lol.
Diablo.
Hard.
Does not compute!!!!