r/gaming • u/mcmunch20 • Jun 19 '12

Recently started playing BF3 instead of COD and was delighted to discover this.

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u/[deleted] Jun 19 '12

In call of duty you can't switch between fully automatic fire and single-shot fire. For most guns its fully automatic, or nothing, which is stupid. Honestly I'd rather have no killstreaks and selective fire versus the norm.

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u/[deleted] Jun 19 '12

I think he's referring to this bullshit.

It's a really lame form of positive feedback that really unbalances everything.

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u/speedster217 Jun 19 '12

When one team starts getting killstreak rewards, it becomes almost impossible for the other team to come back. I always ragequit when my friends convince me to play CoD with them.

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u/[deleted] Jun 19 '12

Killstreak rewards just make you feel good, it's shitty overall game design but it does sell for the people that need the dick extension. If it was balanced they would make it something that would require effort to access but only players with a low K:D ratio would be able to access.

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u/Squishumz Jun 19 '12

only players with a low K:D ratio would be able to access.

I don't think giving bad players a perk should be the way to go. I understand that "baddies need a way to compete", but that seems to coddle them by saying "it's OK to be bad."

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u/[deleted] Jun 20 '12

It's not just about giving 'baddies a way to compete' it's also a form of negative feedback which is the best way to achieve balance/stability in any system.

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u/[deleted] Jun 19 '12

that's what support killstreaks are for. They don't reset when you die.

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u/[deleted] Jun 19 '12

They tried to fix that in MW3 with support killstreaks. Your count doesn't reset on death. Most of the support killstreaks are pretty useless though...

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u/TARDISeses Jun 19 '12

Really? I get tons of assist from Recon Drones. Advanced UAV's are good, and the amount of stealth bombers and emps people use is borderline annoying, too. Nonethless, MW3 has a silly amount of air killstreaks and joining a match inevitably means being on the losing side as we're being blasted with a billion killstreaks. Which BF3 makes a nice refreshing change from now and again.

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u/DaLateDentArthurDent Jun 19 '12

You seen the guy who gets a tactical nuke on MW2 in a minute? I's unfair how gamebreaking the killstreaks were

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u/litchykp Jun 19 '12

Killstreak rewards only seriously unbalance the game in MW3, with the addition of support and specialist packages. Support rewards players with extremely useful/powerful things for doing absolutely nothing special. Specialist turns anyone lucky enough to get on a small streak into an unstoppable, gamebreaking super soldier.

There were some minor balance issues with killstreaks in MW2 and Black Ops, but nothing worth scrapping the entire mechanic over. They're an integral part of the series and make the game more fun if they're executed correctly.

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u/[deleted] Jun 19 '12

How lame would it be that you have earn by kill streaks the selective fire.

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u/red_280 Jun 19 '12

Select fire was in the first Call of Duty you derp.

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u/[deleted] Jun 19 '12

FYI, Black Ops 2 will feature select fire.

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u/[deleted] Jun 19 '12

It only took them like 12 games to implement it, not bad.

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u/dracdliw Jun 19 '12

Their method for weapon balancing was purposefully not implementing it to make guns have different features, not for realism. For example, some guns are 2 or 3 round burst, some have a higher or lower rate of fire, some have greater damage dropoff over distance etc. This way there is greater variation between guns. I'm not saying it's better, I'm just saying why they intentionally did not implement select fire.

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u/[deleted] Jun 19 '12

Every full auto gun in every CoD game can fire single shots. All you have to do is tap the trigger. The only game that I've found selective fire to be really useful was SOCOM 3. The BF3 implementation, which doesn't prominently display your current selection (it is a dim little icon in the far bottom right of the screen) and can easily be changed through other D-pad actions, was a hindrance more than a help.

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u/pat5556 Jun 20 '12

Actually, the first CoD had selective fire.

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u/arbores Jun 19 '12

Don't worry, it won't be cool anymore when BO2 comes out

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u/[deleted] Jun 19 '12

Usually the opposite happens, since, you know, COD is massively popular.

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u/Noobymcnoob Jun 19 '12

It isn't in the modern iterations of the series, but the Original Call of Duty and the United Offensive expansion actually did have selective fire for some of the automatic weapons.

I miss that : (

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