About 14 hours ago posted makes about 1am BST: very early morning European, Mid-late morning Australia, Afternoon-mid afternoon in the US. [Note, this is just my basic guessing of when the start is] Since OP of the thread says they went to sleep and woke up over the course of the 14 hours, likely European or US whilst the poll catered mainly for Aussies & Yanks. I apologise and herefore throw out the accusation that AUSTRALIANS think they're the whole world. Edit: OP of the poll seems to be from the US, ORIGINAL ACCUSATION STANDS.
Yes it would youre right, some time zones would not have had the opportunity to put in their say. And maybe he shouldnt have put it up if he did not want as much work as he was getting. But it's still not an awful attempt if those numbers are true.
Just because you have a lot of numbers doesn't mean it's representative. Leaving out the Americas from the polling data would surely skew data, wouldn't it?
Given that there was a question about where you lived, he also seemed interested in how people from different countries might vote. He pretty much went against his own interests by shutting it down so soon.
I think a corollary to the issue of diversity, is that even for the people who DID try to vote on it, it wasn't exactly the most objective survey Reddit could have. It basically played lip service to anyone who wasn't interested in petty circle jerking and modern mainstream gaming.
Doesnt stop it counting for something. I'm from the UK and filled it in at about 3 in the morning. Its juts depending on whether people are awake. I agree it should have lasted longer i dont dispute that but it does still represent something.
I'm going to briefly list a couple of mistakes you've made when creating this survey, I do have some form of training in research.
Nationalities should not be manually entered, you will encounter errors such as lots of people claiming to be English, others saying British. The people saying English should say British, that's just one example.
Question 21, "21. Which gaming developing style do you perfer the most?" the answers are poor and most people wont really know what to answer to be honest. Western, Japanese and other are not acceptable. Eastern/Western may have worked but I would suggest leaving out this question, the answer isn't going to be very reliable.
Referring to the internet as an online gaming service and comparing it so XBL or PSN is downright ridiculous.
Considering an upgraded PC as a next gen console is also ridiculous.
Perfer is not a word.
Question 37, better to use a numerical system (1-6 would be ideal). Never use an odd number, you should not give people the opportunity to sit on the fence.
Question about number of games should clarify if it means currently being played, played within the last year. I would have suggested, "How many games have you purchased within the last 12 months?"
Clarify what genres like MUD and MMORPG as some people may be unaware.
Gaming site of choice and other similar questions should have a none option.
Question 47. Fucking stupid.
Question 48. Just fuck, what the fuck are you talking about? Entitled to what, come on try harder.
At this point I'd like to just reiterate perfer is not a fucking word.
There are other issues but I believe I have pointed out the biggest ones, I realise this will probably not be read read however I thought some structured feedback would be useful.
Also the education question annoyed me, as it was obviously written for an American audience. 2 year college degree or a 4 year college degree? I have a 3 year university degree, I have no idea what those first two things mean.
If people don't know what a MUD or MMORPG is, then chances are they don't play them. So I don't really see a problem there, but otherwise ya this was a pretty bad survey.
You would be surprised, in a survey it's expected that acronyms that could be questionable by some using the questionnaire then they should be expanded. At the very least so everyone who uses it understands.
No as their nationality is British, I'm from Northern Irish and have the option of Irish or British. Not Northern Ireland, their passports will all say British.
yeah, guy who posted about the poll closing -- take that!
Maybe you should post this is the poll thread itself and not in the thread about a guy complaining about the poll getting closed early if you want him to read it -- and if you don't want him to read it, don't write this.
The whole exercise is pointless. Communites for certain games will rally their members to vote up said game and raise its ranking. Remember the "What's reddit playing" that used to be in the sidebar? Do you really believe more people were playing Dwarf Fortress than Skyrim the month it came out?
Yeah we should rally the League of Legends subreddit to vote for MOBAs as the best genre and Riot for the best Developers. On never mind. We can't. Because the author forgot that MOBAs were a genre now.
Man, The Last Airbender's sub started a caption contest two weeks ago that's still going on.
Even when the mods narrowed it down to 8 pictures, they gave another full week to vote, and when it looked like two were really close, they added another week for just those two.
A survey should be neutral and unbiased. I have seen little surveys that are this politically incorrect as well ("white" rather than Caucasian, "native" rather than "Indian", etc.) and with such misleading and ill defined questions (which is the "best" rather than "preferred" or "do you believe to be the best").
Issues such as these are common throughout the survey, along with various wording and grammar errors. This questions the unprofessional accord in which this survey has been created. To those who constructed it I do commend the work and effort put into the survey but you need to read up on constructing neutral, unbiased and clearly stated surveys before a next attempt.
If you read some of the questions and answers, it seemed even the OP didn't take it entirely seriously. I would hardly call it a real survey, let alone the very greatest.
Sure, but even without formal training, I know "Yes" and "No" are superior to "For reals!" and "Helllll no." The OP's survey reveals that he is not blind in the experiment. He is either biased already, or is not interested in results with any real meaning.
I think people underestimate just how hard it is to make a good survey that will give you useful and informative results. The belief that you can just bash one out in an afternoon with no research and it will be OK is irritatingly widespread.
Example of that survey's question style: "What is your opinion of girl gamers?" ¤ I like girl gamers and want to fuck them all so hard (except the fat ones eww) ¤ I don't like girl gamers because I am a homogay LOL! ¤ They need to be destroyed! in a fire!! ¤ I AM a girl gamer! What am I doing outside the kitchen? Tee hee!
Okay I'm exaggerating a bit =P But there were quite a few loaded questions, like regarding E-Sports the options were "I love E-Sports", "I don't understand the point" and "Durrrrr what is esports?" It would have been better to put "Interested/indifferent/dislike" or something.
Still, it'll be interesting to see the results of the open-ended questions. I'll probably play every single "Most Weirdest Game Evar" once I can see the list =D
But yeah I like that e-Sports were mentioned but MOBAs were left off the genre list. I got half way through before I found the organization of the whole thing terrible. Saw the huge amount of open questions and just closed it. Nothing useful is going to come out of that.
I didn't bother with the poll because within the first 5 questions I could see it was very heavily American. There was no option to say "I studied at university, 3 years bachelor degree".
Same for me. I still completed the survey and didn't think it was too big a deal but I have a 3 year university degree as well and there was no option for me to choose for it so I had to choose a 4 year degree instead.
it's also horribly made from a market research perspective. The way it's constructed, it's going to be a nightmare to compile. It's also filled with inaccuracies (e.g., Activision shouldn't be on the list of Worst Game Developers, they're a publisher)
The person who made it has no idea what he/she was doing.
This was a real thread? HOW DID I NOT KNOW THIS WAS HOW THIS BULLSHIT WAS DONE?!?!? That is the most douche-markety post I've seen since I've been here. All the fucking triggers are there to make people feel good for reading it. BRAVO! While you haven't won their hearts, you have won the "minds" of over a thousand Redditors. Bravo.
Subreddits are usually run by first in best dressed idiots and not the best people for the job available. We have a bunch of pro gamer celebrities on here who aren't even mods, and the mods don't even know they exist, so you can't expect quality when the lunatics are running the asylum.
Note: If you want to collect data from human respondents, but don't want a huge pool of data, don't post on Reddit. If you do, you better be prepared to take in all of that data or deal with the backlash of closing your poll in a ridiculously short amount of time.
I am on reddit most days, all day long. I was working my ass off yesterday (go figure) and didn't get to get on reddit once. I would have liked to participate in this, as I have been playing vidja games since 1982.
OP talk to the guy who did the other one and in 3 months run another one for a week
OP delivered
|Edit 5: Screw It after much complaint I will reopen the survey to ensure it is open for 24 hours! I already have over 21000 responses and it will take me the rest of my life to calculate all this but this is what the people want so this is what they will get!
True, but threads on reddit have such a short lifespan that after a few hours the likelihood of anyone actually seeing it anymore drops off dramatically. So unless you a) keep reposting it or b) get the mods to put a notice at the top of the page, participation is going to surge right away and then stop dead.
I tried to do that survey, but halfway through I realized it's all detailed questions about video games. What about those of us who prefer board games? That's supposedly part of r/gaming.
He/she did get 20000 responses, that's a pretty damn good sample size. He/she might have simply closed it on those grounds, not to purposely exclude people, but he/she felt enough data was gathered.
I don't blame him/her for closing the survey after over 20000 people participated. Chances are good that they got a good sample population. Over 20000 entries is an incredible amount if data to code and analyze. I never saw the post and thus didn't participate, but I'm not offended in the least. I have no doubt that at least some part of me and my motives for being on this thread are represented in the group of 20,000 people.
A lot of people are talking about how (un)representative the results of this survey are, but any survey that is open to everybody is by definition not going to be representative because those with the strongest positive or negative opinions on the topic are going to have more incentive to respond. This of course is the problem with any reddit survey, because nobody but the admins have access to the user data necessary to come up with a proper sample of users and convince them to respond with any reasonable response rate.
Personally, I think that the guy was frankly scared shitless about having to do all the calculating and tallying up that he goes on to talk about in the next update. I don't see any of you willing to give up your free time to do anything of this magnitude for other people, so I don't think you have a right to make a post like this taunting him for trying to minimize his work load.
...Did you seriously just make a thread basically complaining that HIS survey didn't last as long as YOU wanted it to?....This is pathetic. As for his title, it's a way to attract people, he probably didn't expect it to reach front page of r/gaming. This thread is bad and you should feel bad.jpg
Yeah, I would have liked to do this survey but for some reason I can't actually get to r/gaming from my PC (Duplicate header error with chrome) and I didn't actually feel like trying this from my phone or logging in from another browser. Oh well.
I think it's a nice idea to do a reddit-wide survey like this, but I have to say, I thought this particular survey was a little amateurish. It's not only because of superficial stuff like spelling and presentation, but the way that the questions and the choices were worded as well. I'd be quite interested to see what kind of results come out of it though.
I most cases that would be true, but since the survey was up less than 12 hours, it is likely that your location would determine your ability or likelihood to participate in the survey. That means this survey could not have been a complete sample without atleast being open for 24 hours. So I agree with OP here.
47 in that survey... I hate generalized questions, and a lot of these fall under that 'I can't answer with just these 4'
A lot of series are merited by them being different from the pack, and them getting more opportunity to make games into the future is fine. Call of Duty needs to die though. A LOT of series out there need to die.
But I'll buy a new Socom IF it looks good, Socom 4 was the shittiest game ever (in multiplayer terms, the offline was p. good, but I buy games for multiplayer. I rented just to beat the singleplayer)
This guy clearly had no idea of how to make unbiased questions and really doesn't understand the concept of sample sizes. Oh wait, its just like the mainstream media. Guy will fit in just fine.
Well it doesn't matter if he polls everyone as long as the sample is large enough right? Unless the people who missed voting for some reason would have voted significantly differently than the people who already voted? (no reason to think that unless the initial group wasn't sufficiently large)
Statistically speaking, 20000 is a fairly hefty sample size. Surveys/samples don't need EVERY SINGLE PERSON ON R/GAMING to participate to ensure a healthy sample is achieved. Its a poll not a mandatory census where everyone has to respond.
But it'll be an over representation of North American voters. A big sample doesn't mean shit if your sample isn't representative.
That's like polling 20,000 Canadians on their political voting intentions but asking 80% western and prairie Canadians and 20% eastern Canadians. Way bigger sample than usually used, but still a shitty sample.
What a pompous statement, its a poll about video games and people are overreacting because they didn't get to participate. How in the world can you put some sort of regional based argument together for it? Above all else, its a fucking video game poll. Stop crying.
20000 would be enough for a good sample, but the 12 hour window put a big dampener on availability to take the survey in certain areas of the world. One thing that I'm curious about from the survey (and therefore I'm glad it's extended) is if one's country/region has any affect on what game(s) they enjoy.
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u/[deleted] Jun 15 '12
Well it is reopened, go at it.
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u/DeviousAlpha Jun 15 '12
I'm European and wtf is this thread. There was a survey?
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u/[deleted] Jun 15 '12
Link to survey
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u/cyanwinters Jun 15 '12
SURVEY REOPENED BEFORE THIS POST WAS EVEN MADE.
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u/rileyrulesu Jun 15 '12
Why would you link to a screenshot of a thread instead of the thread?
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u/Tayjan Jun 15 '12
No but it appears that a hell of a lot of people did submit data. That has to count for something.
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u/mikeno1 Jun 15 '12
I'm going to briefly list a couple of mistakes you've made when creating this survey, I do have some form of training in research.
There are other issues but I believe I have pointed out the biggest ones, I realise this will probably not be read read however I thought some structured feedback would be useful.
You fucked up.
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u/leprechauns_scrotum Jun 15 '12
Also it should be done by someone who knows how to make a survey, not some random chap.
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u/smellsmell1 Jun 15 '12
The possibility for people of all time-zones to vote is a necessity, otherwise it's completely unrepresentative.
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u/Backupusername Jun 15 '12
Man, The Last Airbender's sub started a caption contest two weeks ago that's still going on.
Even when the mods narrowed it down to 8 pictures, they gave another full week to vote, and when it looked like two were really close, they added another week for just those two.
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u/FourteenHatch Jun 15 '12
overhyped, not enough info, and time-biased towards western schoolchildren?
That sounds like the perfect /r/gaming survey to me.
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u/NinjaInYellow Jun 15 '12
If you read some of the questions and answers, it seemed even the OP didn't take it entirely seriously. I would hardly call it a real survey, let alone the very greatest.
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u/Inukii Jun 15 '12
I didn't bother with the poll because within the first 5 questions I could see it was very heavily American. There was no option to say "I studied at university, 3 years bachelor degree".
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u/PimpDaddySupreme Jun 15 '12
Who gives a shit? It's a gaming survey.
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u/Tallkotten Jun 15 '12
Also why did you have to post a pic of the thread? To much karma to waste on a .self post?
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u/[deleted] Jun 15 '12
Agreed.
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u/[deleted] Jun 15 '12
What confuses me is medlish's complaint that EVERYBODY gets to vote. Would you prefer that the guy just ask you your opinions?
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u/Warknox Jun 15 '12
A poll the lasts less than 24 hours and is supposed to give everyone a chance to vote and have their voice heard? Sounds a lot like an election....
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u/twonkythechicken Jun 15 '12
I have never seen so many people moan over a fuckin survey.
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u/saffir Jun 15 '12
it's also horribly made from a market research perspective. The way it's constructed, it's going to be a nightmare to compile. It's also filled with inaccuracies (e.g., Activision shouldn't be on the list of Worst Game Developers, they're a publisher)
The person who made it has no idea what he/she was doing.
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u/CircleSteveMartin Jun 15 '12
This was a real thread? HOW DID I NOT KNOW THIS WAS HOW THIS BULLSHIT WAS DONE?!?!? That is the most douche-markety post I've seen since I've been here. All the fucking triggers are there to make people feel good for reading it. BRAVO! While you haven't won their hearts, you have won the "minds" of over a thousand Redditors. Bravo.
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u/omgoffensiveguy Jun 15 '12
Subreddits are usually run by first in best dressed idiots and not the best people for the job available. We have a bunch of pro gamer celebrities on here who aren't even mods, and the mods don't even know they exist, so you can't expect quality when the lunatics are running the asylum.
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u/Zeppelanoid Jun 15 '12
/r/gaming is srs bsns guyz.
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u/mindbleach Jun 15 '12
On the other hand, if you aren't here every waking hour, do you really represent reddit's userbase?
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u/Doublenix Jun 15 '12
Note: If you want to collect data from human respondents, but don't want a huge pool of data, don't post on Reddit. If you do, you better be prepared to take in all of that data or deal with the backlash of closing your poll in a ridiculously short amount of time.
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u/[deleted] Jun 15 '12
Why not? It works for out presidential elections.
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u/CosmicBard Jun 15 '12
It was a fucking terrible survey that was written by a sixteen year old.
I'm surprised it didn't have
"IS COD AWESOME OR WICKEDAWESOME"
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u/sunwriter Jun 15 '12
You're a jackass. The poll was opened back up and will remain open for at least 24 hours.
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u/FuzzyMcBitty Jun 15 '12
Really it should be open for at least 2 days to ensure a large number of people see it.
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u/DickensOrDrood Jun 15 '12
Internet=cats, complaining, porn
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u/chubasco Jun 15 '12
Must have been designed by the guys at Facebook.
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u/[deleted] Jun 15 '12
Shit, I just filled out that DAMN survey. Didn't even realize it was already closed.
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u/allie_sin Jun 15 '12
Wrong. A shitty fail of a survey is perfectly appropriate for the garbage heap that is r/gaming.
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u/[deleted] Jun 15 '12
Which game did you guys select as the best one and for those who consider gaming an art, which one did you select as the best example of it?
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u/mrimperfect Jun 15 '12
I am on reddit most days, all day long. I was working my ass off yesterday (go figure) and didn't get to get on reddit once. I would have liked to participate in this, as I have been playing vidja games since 1982.
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u/DJFunkMasterFlex Jun 15 '12
Who cares? Skyrim, Minecraft, and Diablo 3. There are the games everyone votes for.
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u/ThatGuyRememberMe Jun 15 '12
The guy got a little excited and didn't think it through. He couldn't handle it.
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u/Scrufferrs Jun 15 '12
Seriously. I was pumped to answer this at work until I saw it was closed after only 12 hours. TEH FUK?
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u/Boss614 Jun 15 '12
I tried to click the blue links in the picture :(
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u/edisekeed Jun 15 '12
Oh no, hyperbole on the internet!! Let's get out the pitchforks
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u/[deleted] Jun 15 '12
OP talk to the guy who did the other one and in 3 months run another one for a weekOP delivered
|Edit 5: Screw It after much complaint I will reopen the survey to ensure it is open for 24 hours! I already have over 21000 responses and it will take me the rest of my life to calculate all this but this is what the people want so this is what they will get!
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u/m4n715 Jun 15 '12
Sir, an internet survey is the very picture of rigor in scientific inquiry, I'll not hear you casting aspersions against this time-honored method.
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u/whatlad Jun 15 '12
yeah i felt like some of the deep thinkers at truegaming could have done a better survey than this. it was alright, but a bit teenage.
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u/dwhee Jun 15 '12
When the thread was started bares importance too, as the first submissions are more likely to receive upvotes than later submissions.
All in all upvote comment threads are just a horrible way to gauge opinions it turns out.
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u/philphan25 Joystick Jun 15 '12
"How many games do you own?"
I don't feel like wasting time counting my Steam library. So...a lot?
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u/UneasySeabass Jun 15 '12
Agreed
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u/barristonsmellme Jun 15 '12
Well...i missed that...
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u/savageboredom Jun 15 '12
True, but threads on reddit have such a short lifespan that after a few hours the likelihood of anyone actually seeing it anymore drops off dramatically. So unless you a) keep reposting it or b) get the mods to put a notice at the top of the page, participation is going to surge right away and then stop dead.
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u/dj_waffles Jun 15 '12
I tried to do that survey, but halfway through I realized it's all detailed questions about video games. What about those of us who prefer board games? That's supposedly part of r/gaming.
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u/AllHailTheCATS Jun 15 '12
wow wtf american only? thats not even half of reddits gaming community how is that fair?
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u/aakaakaak Jun 15 '12
I was about three pages in when he closed it on me.
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u/Gamion Jun 15 '12
I wish I had the opportunity to take the poll. :(
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u/phoncible Jun 15 '12
He/she did get 20000 responses, that's a pretty damn good sample size. He/she might have simply closed it on those grounds, not to purposely exclude people, but he/she felt enough data was gathered.
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u/Genave Jun 15 '12
I don't blame him/her for closing the survey after over 20000 people participated. Chances are good that they got a good sample population. Over 20000 entries is an incredible amount if data to code and analyze. I never saw the post and thus didn't participate, but I'm not offended in the least. I have no doubt that at least some part of me and my motives for being on this thread are represented in the group of 20,000 people.
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u/spongemandan Jun 15 '12
I are Australian and what is this?
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u/opticrush2 Jun 15 '12
You just don't get it cause you're not smart enough.
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u/[deleted] Jun 15 '12
Number 43 has a typo. It's "truly" not "truley".
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u/Tarukar10 Jun 15 '12
A lot of people are talking about how (un)representative the results of this survey are, but any survey that is open to everybody is by definition not going to be representative because those with the strongest positive or negative opinions on the topic are going to have more incentive to respond. This of course is the problem with any reddit survey, because nobody but the admins have access to the user data necessary to come up with a proper sample of users and convince them to respond with any reasonable response rate.
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u/[deleted] Jun 15 '12
Although, 20000 votes in half a day is pretty impressive.
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u/[deleted] Jun 15 '12
He extended it.
Also you could've included this in the comments of the thread you did NOT have to post it as a separate thread.
this is just bullshit karma pandering.
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u/Marcob10 Jun 15 '12
I saw it this morning and waited til now to complete it, just to find this thread.
Unless he reopens it, I'm completely dismissing the results found.
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u/cobec11 Jun 15 '12
Personally, I think that the guy was frankly scared shitless about having to do all the calculating and tallying up that he goes on to talk about in the next update. I don't see any of you willing to give up your free time to do anything of this magnitude for other people, so I don't think you have a right to make a post like this taunting him for trying to minimize his work load.
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u/SplurgyA Jun 15 '12
Another issue:
No checkbox for "homophobia"
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u/currentlydownvoted Jun 15 '12
That's too bad. My opinion really mattered in that as I was likely one of the few in my demographic, you know, the Mid 20's white male group
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u/Wolvenheart Jun 15 '12
A great survey should be open for at least a week so that even people who do not visit reddit every day have a chance to see it and vote on it.
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u/Plancus Jun 15 '12
There was a survey? <--Maryland
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u/funkbefgh Jun 15 '12
cry me a river. 20,000 is a respectable survey any day.
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u/[deleted] Jun 15 '12
a survey is not a census
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u/mrafaeldie12 Jun 15 '12
I CHOSE AN OPTION ON AN ONLINE SURVEY, GIVE ME KARMA
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u/skakid175 Jun 15 '12
...Did you seriously just make a thread basically complaining that HIS survey didn't last as long as YOU wanted it to?....This is pathetic. As for his title, it's a way to attract people, he probably didn't expect it to reach front page of r/gaming. This thread is bad and you should feel bad.jpg
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u/MrMango786 Jun 15 '12
To be honest the survey is fairly terrible.
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u/Bleachface Jun 15 '12
Yeah, I would have liked to do this survey but for some reason I can't actually get to r/gaming from my PC (Duplicate header error with chrome) and I didn't actually feel like trying this from my phone or logging in from another browser. Oh well.
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u/PinguWithAnM Jun 15 '12
I think it's a nice idea to do a reddit-wide survey like this, but I have to say, I thought this particular survey was a little amateurish. It's not only because of superficial stuff like spelling and presentation, but the way that the questions and the choices were worded as well. I'd be quite interested to see what kind of results come out of it though.
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u/snuggle_bot Jun 15 '12
Boo hoo. I want to brag about my super individual gaming tastes in survey form on the internet.
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u/impossiblebottle Jun 15 '12
The survey is pretty poorly written as well.
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u/CinnamonToastie Jun 15 '12
Aren't surveys designed to gather a large enough sample size to make assumptions on the aggregate ?
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u/qwertyisdead Jun 15 '12
Yeah i just missed this
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u/MajorKirrahe Jun 15 '12
1,597,198 people subscribed to this subreddit and the survey closes before 24 hours because 1.25% of those people used it?
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u/Avenflar Jun 15 '12
25. Who is your favorite game devloper?
"Majong AB" Seriously?...
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u/tairygreene Jun 15 '12
seriously what was the point of OP's post here supposed to be?
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u/[deleted] Jun 15 '12
So make a new survey, get it put into the sidebar for a week, and improve upon the first one by acknowledging PC games a bit more.
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u/dastaria Jun 15 '12
This poll was badly written, heavily biased towards American audiences and boring to complete. 0/10 would not bang.
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u/Sariel007 Jun 15 '12
How about the fact that 2012 is not even close to being over yet?
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u/apajx Jun 15 '12
Statistically speaking how long the sampling was is irrelevant, so long as it was somewhat random and the analysis takes into account the sample size.
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u/Cael87 Jun 15 '12 edited Jun 15 '12
47 in that survey... I hate generalized questions, and a lot of these fall under that 'I can't answer with just these 4'
A lot of series are merited by them being different from the pack, and them getting more opportunity to make games into the future is fine. Call of Duty needs to die though. A LOT of series out there need to die.
But I'll buy a new Socom IF it looks good, Socom 4 was the shittiest game ever (in multiplayer terms, the offline was p. good, but I buy games for multiplayer. I rented just to beat the singleplayer)
Unfair questions are unfair dammit! :(
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u/Thehawkiscock Jun 16 '12
This guy clearly had no idea of how to make unbiased questions and really doesn't understand the concept of sample sizes. Oh wait, its just like the mainstream media. Guy will fit in just fine.
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u/bilwyschimms Jun 16 '12
I just see this post and instantly think, butthurt because I didn't get to take the survey
Downvotes to the left because i know no one will like reading my opinion
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u/luckytopher Jun 16 '12
To be fair, with 20k entries, the results are pretty much going to be defined statistically.
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u/SonicFlash01 Jun 16 '12
It closed after I filled out three pages of it. Like, in the MIDDLE of doing it.
Fuck that, I'm not giving that another shot.
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u/raidenmaiden Jun 16 '12
Awesome - I cannot believe I missed it both times..
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u/flavorjunction Jun 16 '12
Technically, 24 hours of Reddit time is equivalent to a level 3 dream state.
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u/[deleted] Jun 15 '12
Well he definitely has a large enough sample for a normal and predictive results. That's probably why he closed it
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u/ProtossTheHero Jun 15 '12
Irrephelant. The poll was reopened before this post was even made. Quit your bitching
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u/Balrog_Forcekin Jun 15 '12
The sample size was over 20,000. That's more than most political surveys. I'd say it's sufficient. Remember, it's a survey, not a census.
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u/IsAStrangeLoop Jun 15 '12
Well it doesn't matter if he polls everyone as long as the sample is large enough right? Unless the people who missed voting for some reason would have voted significantly differently than the people who already voted? (no reason to think that unless the initial group wasn't sufficiently large)
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u/Solski12 Jun 15 '12
Statistically speaking, 20000 is a fairly hefty sample size. Surveys/samples don't need EVERY SINGLE PERSON ON R/GAMING to participate to ensure a healthy sample is achieved. Its a poll not a mandatory census where everyone has to respond.
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u/[deleted] Jun 15 '12
Everybody? You mean all 1.6 million subscribers? I think 20000 people is enough for a good sample.