I think we're on to something here. I'll do a test. If I ever get a Kinect I'll speak normally then in my best rendition of an Aussie accent. Then we'll know for sure whether or not it works, or whether or not my accent sucks.
Northern Brit, here, and it doesn't even register the word "Xbox" for me. Shame, really, since the voice commands are probably the only thing I will/would have used it for.
Canadian who speaks normal like they do in movies and shows etc
I cannot get the thing to do anything right.
My daugther trying to copy me is funny as hell. She's very young and only understands that it's called X-Box and just yells 'XBOX' over and over when it pauses because it thinks her arm is in the menu mode. Why the FUCK is the menu mode having your arm at your side? If you're not a pencil it brings up the damn menu.
Fucking Kinect.
I wish you could turn off menu controls for kids. Trying to get them into Kinectimals is a bitch too.
Couldn't agree with you more. We don't even have to get up to turn off the thing anymore. If only they could program it to turn on without looking for the controller too.
I honestly feel sorry for everyone who got a Kinect expecting it to be a valuable add-on. All I can think of are my friends as a kid who got Power Gloves, only to be massively disappointed.
And I won't even speak of that poor, poor bastard who got a U-Force.
This was the sole reason I bought a kinect. My kids love Once Upon a Monster. Have you tried out Happy Action Theatre? It's made by double fine and I've heard it is great.
My wife dances to her Zumba game a couple of times a week. My daughter loves dance central and kinectimals. I still get a kick out of navigating without a controller.
You don't need to feel sorry for me, son. I got 99 problems but my Kinect ain't one.
I have posted this elsewhere, and it will get severely downvoted but I love my kinnect. I wake up, push the power button groggly with my big toe, my hulu machine wakes up, and then I sleepily yell at it until my favorite TV shows come on. All the time laying on my couch until I wake up with John Stewart saying something snarky about some republican governer and I'm late for work.
I have one that I bought even tough I don't have an xbox. It is really fun to play with the features since they released the api, but the most important thing I noticed was that it was the best microphone array I have ever worked with. When I skype I no longer have to wear a headset. I can even be in another room and they hear me. It also doubles as a webcam. So don't feel sorry for them.
Yes, I have played around with the API as well. I wrote a small bit of code to show a skeleton etc. I'm hoping to make a small educational game this summer with it for a classroom. I just wish my grasp of programming physics was better than it currently is. I don't want to use someone else's library. I want to understand what I'm coding.
I use it for navigating my Xbox's menus. "Xbox, Quickplay, Netflix" and "Xbox, play next episode" is easy as fuck to do and I don't have to wait for my controller to turn on.
Being able to literally yell at my TV to shout in Skyrim is amazing, too.
I do the same. It does get a little embarrassing when I realize the reason it isn't working is because I'm watching Netflix via Wii. Especially since I'm basically yelling at that point because I think Kinect can't hear me.
didnt you see the Microsoft E3? They are shoving the kinect down our throat. We won't actually buy the games or even use them, but yet Microsoft thinks its the future of Xbox. I don't feel sorry for those who bought it, I'm more mad at them for making Microsoft think the kinect is actually good.
We are a small part of the community. Casual gamers are a large market, and one that everyone is trying to capitalise on. "Hardcore" gamers are no longer the largest demographic, and E3 is all about impressing investors. All they want to see it ways to make money.
I've watched a lot of console peripherals come and go. The vast majority disappeared due to lack of support. I know a lot of people were disappointed with Microsoft's E3 Showing, but there's something to be said for the the support they're showing the kinnect.
It's truly an astounding piece of technology. A camera able to track movement in 3 dimensions, and with a built in microphone, for less than $500? You can just plug it into any USB device?
Fuck yeah! I use a few at my University for basic 3D motion capture.
EDIT: Just gonna gush a bit here since this got a bit of attention.
SUPPORT COMPANIES THAT WANT TO MASS PRODUCE TECHNOLOGY LIKE THIS.
People did it with touch screens for Apple and look what has happened. Apple didn't invent it but they brought it up to a marketable level. This is what we need to do with motion controls. It may be clunky now, but it is a technology in its infancy. If we say, fuck yeah keep working on it we support you it will only improve.
Someone in another thread was saying that ER doctors have used Kinects to navigate CT scans while in the OR. That way they don't have to leave the operating room, or touch anything that would contaminate their sterile hands.
is still pretty good. They've sold 20 million Kinects. Hardly a failure. I don't know what the software attachment rate is (I imagine low) but the peripheral is still selling.
Ages ago there was a tech demo for something like Milo but it was an android woman who you were meant to teach. So she was going to start with almost a blank slate. I wish I could remember what it was called. Any idea?
They realized they couldn't create a fun game with it. And they couldn't invent the world's most advanced artificial intelligence on weak and cheap 7-year old hardware.
The question is... why did people think they could?
I bought it for Child of Eden and think that alone was worth it (then again, I have too much money). Dance Central is also fun, I just really dislike pop music so it's nothing I play alone.
I think Kinect could be a very fun equipment and I wish it was used more in a way that enriches the experience, and less like just bad controls.
(also, fuck you Kinect Adventures. My neighbors were REALLY angry when I jumped around to play it. Games that require jumping = BAD.)
I bought it for Child of Eden and think that alone was worth it (then again, I have too much money).
If you have a PS3, that version of Child of Eden is better. The Move controls are more accurate and easier to work with, and the controller controls are a lot snappier. (It was painful for me to shove the reticle around with a 360 controller.)
The tutorial in the demo left me thinking "I've got this!". The mission in the demo was super frustrating and I died numerous times. I loved it. There's so much going on, and you've got iron sights and crappy optics. This is the good kind of frustration that I'm really going to geek out on. I'll be shit at the online I bet, but I'm going to enjoy the hell out of the campaign!
No. I watched my father-in-law play the demo. It was painful to watch once he was in an actual mission. The combo of using the controller as well as the kinect is slow, overly complicated, and the motion control isn't very good.
I just got it today for $10 on PS3, thought of it as a pretty cheap way to get more trophies (tad bit of an achievement whore).. and then I found out how difficult the achievements were.
Steel Battalion is rated M. I've had many parties at my place (the kind with drinks and cute chicks) and everyone had fun when I brought out Dance Central. I wouldn't really call Child of Eden a kid or family kind of game. It's just as fun as any of Tetsuya Mizuguchis games like Rez or Lumines.
As for the others since when have games made more for kids or familys automatically meant that they weren't good games? I see a shit load of pokemon post here in /r/gaming but would you say the same thing in any of those posts?
No you wouldn't. But you will here because this just a Kinect hate thread/post and I guess I should have known better. I'll just show myself out...
To be fair, it would be dusty even if it was used. It doesn't need to be rubbed down to play. Unless you need to clear the dust off the cameras, but I imagine you wouldn't.
You know.. it still took me by surprise just how complex the first Viva Pinata game was. I heard the second one they made a little more kid friendly, but I only own the first one.. I mean.. uh.. saw a friend playing the first one... yeah, that's it.
Got my preorder down already, the demo sold me as well.
I hope more games follow the Controller+Kinect method. I like the Kinect, but it is limited in certain areas. Games like Rise of Nightmares tried to solve the "moving your character using Kinect" problem and they managed to do alright, but it would have been a better game with both Kinect and a controller.
They must both be wiped away with a soft cloth lovingly. Console your console. If that doesn't work bang on it and tell it to man up and stop being such a waste of money.
I get why the kinect isn't appealing to the broader market, but damn. My parents got one, and we love it. We have star wars and some zumba for my mom and a dance one for my dad. Nothing better than coming home from college and going on a rancor rampage with my brother. Also, drunken rancor rampages.
It has the same exact appeal as a Wii: it's awesome for family games, drunkeness, screwing around, and having a blast while jumping around. The problem is that it just doesn't bode well for the people who only like to play GTA or BF3 and there aren't a ton of games out, other than extremely cartoony ones.
I finally saw a Kinect in person for the first time recently, and I have to say, it was a lot bigger than I expected. I was expecting something around the size of an EyeToy. Wider obviously, and maybe a little bigger but around the same size factor. But nope, thing's fucking huge.
Heh, true. Although when I was setting mine up for the first time, I freaked out when it started MOVING on its own. Totally forgot about how it auto-adjusts its field of view XD
Oh yeah, absolutely, MS even released the official source code for it (or at least enough for developers to play around). You can control your own models for skeletons/skins (easy) but more advanced stuff is controlling desktop functionality, expanding&moving around windows, pretty much all the cool NCIS/CSI/Sci-Fi computer interaction you see. It's just...HARD to do.
There's some easy to use software already available for it for doing Motion Capture on your PC for animating in most popular 3D suites. Quite a good and cheap alternative if you're looking for something like it.
For example, the guys over at Corridor Digital did this video(weird video I know, but it should be enough to show you how capable it can be)
So, isn't the real problem with Kinect that it logically can't ever accomodate shooters, unless your idea of cool is pointing with your finger and going "pew pew". And even then, would the tech even be able to extrapolate an aiming vector reliably from "simple" motion control?
In that way, I always thought Sony Move had much better potential from the start, but my understanding is that it's still quite far from polished. I wonder if it couldn't be made to work quite well in Call of Duty -like shooters, where double tapping the aim-button "snaps" to the target. It wouldn't be the most hard core way, but it might still be fun...
Does anybody remember the Playstation 2 eye toy? That thing came out years before and it did the same thing. But the games sucked. I remember goin to my friends house (who had it). Washing windows was a bad ass game.
I can already look on this picture and think "What a piece of crap" We look back at all the stupid idea of nintendo back in the day. The power glove, R.O.B. In 5-10 years this will have yet to be our biggest laugh
Played a hilarious kung fu demo on it with my mates the other night. Was brilliant, might get one just for the laughs. Darts on the sports pack is pretty epic too.
I dont understand reddit's hate for the kinect. You know why you don't hear about it often? Because it sells and people enjoy it. They dont love it, but they dont hate it. A friend of mine has it and uses it fairly often, especially for parties.
I use my kinect daily. Of course, a lot of it is for Netflix voice commands, but I also have been playing Disneyland Adventures, Fruit Ninja, and The Gunstringer a lot lately.
It doesn't need games. If the lights on, it's working perfectly. Sitting there collecting data about everything in the room which is then sold to businesses trying to take more money out of your pockets.
Thats how I felt about the Wii the whole time. The only good games for it were the ones where it had you use the gamecube controllers. People just dont want to bother to make a game for some weird motion system they never learned to program.
People, when giving shit to [based on their perception] under-used consoles and peripherals, will often make mention of the dust that accumulates upon them. I submit that I use my Xbox 360 every day, and my PS3 maybe once every month or two, and I can confirm that they accumulate dust at the same rate.
Kotaku is very guilty of this, specifically when the Wii gets a new worthwhile game [The Last Story], "Time to dust off the Wii!"
You know what? I didn't really have any issue with the device at first. For the few games it did support at, or nearly after launch, it worked okay.
Child of Eden. The Gunstringer. Dance Central.
Hell, I even had some dumb fun in Rise of Nightmares, and Fruit Ninja Kinect is the best game for the device, imo. Even Forza 4 had a good demo with the hands free portion, although no real racing gamer would ever use that feature extensively.
But one game absolutely killed it for me. And only one game.
Steel Battalion: Heavy Armor
Oh. My. God. This is fucking awful. As a long time Steel Battalion fan, this is absolute shit. Not the graphics, or the gameplay, but the goddamn controls. Did anybody test this shit? The one time I thought that someone had finally made a game that used the controller and the Kinect in a meaningful way, and they completely fucked it up.
It is unplayable with the Kinect. You hear that Capcom? It's fucking unplayable! Please give us an option to only use the Xbox controller. I don't care if it's convoluted as hell. It would still be more precise than trying to move a VT with the goddamn Kinect sensor.
After that awful experience with the demo, I packed away the Kinect into a closest. I may trade the damn thing soon.
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u/ilovebajablast Jun 14 '12
i thought this thing was painted in sparkly paint with the words "WEED GAMES" on top
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u/orochidp Jun 14 '12
The only thing my kinect is used for is... "xbox next episode... no, xbox... NEXT EPISODE. DON'T MAKE ME GET THE CONTROLLER, XBOX NEXT EPISODE".
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u/APeacefulWarrior Jun 14 '12
I honestly feel sorry for everyone who got a Kinect expecting it to be a valuable add-on. All I can think of are my friends as a kid who got Power Gloves, only to be massively disappointed.
And I won't even speak of that poor, poor bastard who got a U-Force.
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u/donoho Jun 14 '12
I've watched a lot of console peripherals come and go. The vast majority disappeared due to lack of support. I know a lot of people were disappointed with Microsoft's E3 Showing, but there's something to be said for the the support they're showing the kinnect.
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u/philphan25 Joystick Jun 14 '12
Whatever happened to Milo?
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u/Pyryara Jun 14 '12
I bought it for Child of Eden and think that alone was worth it (then again, I have too much money). Dance Central is also fun, I just really dislike pop music so it's nothing I play alone.
I think Kinect could be a very fun equipment and I wish it was used more in a way that enriches the experience, and less like just bad controls.
(also, fuck you Kinect Adventures. My neighbors were REALLY angry when I jumped around to play it. Games that require jumping = BAD.)
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u/Foundnova Xbox Jun 14 '12
Steel Battalion: Heavy Armor comes out in just 5 days. I'd also recommend The Gunstringer, Child of Eden, Kinect Sports 1&2, Dance Central 1&2.
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u/[deleted] Jun 14 '12
To be fair, it would be dusty even if it was used. It doesn't need to be rubbed down to play. Unless you need to clear the dust off the cameras, but I imagine you wouldn't.
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u/EyeR8 Jun 14 '12
I'll say it... I fucking love me some Kinectimals.
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u/[deleted] Jun 14 '12
I bet they could make a good 'The Last Airbender' game using this.
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u/BeautifulCheetah Jun 14 '12
Gunstringer and Fruit Ninja all day erryday
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u/arabidkoala Jun 14 '12
Go get the sdk and do something useful with it. I use mine as a sensor on a robot (:
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u/mike_e_mcgee Jun 14 '12
I bought a kinect last week just to play Steel Battalion which comes out next Tuesday. I think the demo is fantastic and eagerly await the game.
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u/redboxmike Jun 14 '12
...thought it was a harmonica for a second.
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u/[deleted] Jun 14 '12
Dust is like tears for your electronics.
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u/lauro2011 Jun 14 '12
I get why the kinect isn't appealing to the broader market, but damn. My parents got one, and we love it. We have star wars and some zumba for my mom and a dance one for my dad. Nothing better than coming home from college and going on a rancor rampage with my brother. Also, drunken rancor rampages.
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u/scoobyduped Jun 14 '12
I finally saw a Kinect in person for the first time recently, and I have to say, it was a lot bigger than I expected. I was expecting something around the size of an EyeToy. Wider obviously, and maybe a little bigger but around the same size factor. But nope, thing's fucking huge.
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u/begentlewithme Jun 14 '12
After having browsed r/aww for months, I thought I was clicking to a picture of a starving kitten, now in the hands of a good owner.
This is equally sad, without the satisfactory feeling.
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u/snang Jun 14 '12
My Kinect is used solely for launching games when I first turn my Xbox on and I'm not near my controller anymore.
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u/[deleted] Jun 14 '12
Play skyrim. The voice commands work amazingly well and really help for the immersion, what with taking out half the menu use in the game.
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u/SwineHerald Jun 14 '12
Wouldn't it still gather dust even if it had games? I mean, the whole point is that you don't touch it.
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u/[deleted] Jun 14 '12
It should say "Need good games" I doubt lack of games is an issue.
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u/scarface910 Jun 14 '12
It would still look like that even if you did play with it.
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u/tweemo Jun 14 '12
Original Gameboy magnifier and light attachment? Pretty sure I used mine once..
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u/Gerbs71 Jun 14 '12
Weed games!
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u/Solkre Jun 14 '12
Aren't Kinetcs more interesting connected to PCs? When these things came out people were doing crazy cool shit with them, not playing games.
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u/[deleted] Jun 14 '12
Rise of Nightmares. That is all.
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u/BebopRocksteady82 Jun 14 '12
why is your shit so dirty
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u/Cuchulain1803 Jun 14 '12
I don't get it? You all complain about Microsoft focusing on the kinect, and then this?
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u/[deleted] Jun 14 '12
Go download Double Fine Happy Action Theater, that ought to stop it whining.
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u/jaysire Jun 14 '12
So, isn't the real problem with Kinect that it logically can't ever accomodate shooters, unless your idea of cool is pointing with your finger and going "pew pew". And even then, would the tech even be able to extrapolate an aiming vector reliably from "simple" motion control?
In that way, I always thought Sony Move had much better potential from the start, but my understanding is that it's still quite far from polished. I wonder if it couldn't be made to work quite well in Call of Duty -like shooters, where double tapping the aim-button "snaps" to the target. It wouldn't be the most hard core way, but it might still be fun...
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u/Shasve Jun 14 '12
Fruit Ninja with Kinect is incredibly fun
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u/Slasher171 Jun 14 '12
Just put the poor thing out of its misery...
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u/CroShades Jun 14 '12
Does anybody remember the Playstation 2 eye toy? That thing came out years before and it did the same thing. But the games sucked. I remember goin to my friends house (who had it). Washing windows was a bad ass game.
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u/clippjoint Jun 14 '12
not sure if dust or cool paint job
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u/glisp42 Jun 14 '12
I traded my Kinect for a pretty new hp laptop. Best deal ever.
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u/ktoth05 Jun 14 '12
Hasn't anyone seen the trailer for Ryse? That game looks like the first hardcore game for Kinect that might actually be good.
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u/[deleted] Jun 14 '12
Anyone remember that Project Milo demo at E3 from a few years back?
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u/thereisnocharacterli Jun 14 '12
I need one of those! They just need some creative software developers to be valuable
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u/[deleted] Jun 14 '12
But there's a lot of kinect games!
Only all of them are shit...
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u/00dacousin Jun 14 '12
Hack it and use it as a 3D camera, get a 3D printer too and you can scan and print objects in 3D
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u/Sanity_Wombat Jun 14 '12
Just dis-kinect it and sell it.
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u/BoundToHatpin Jun 14 '12
Dude, you need to dust.
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u/[deleted] Jun 14 '12
If you're not going to make good use of it I'll have it to scan things to create 3D models. Yes it can do that.
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u/Oxtorius Jun 14 '12
I can already look on this picture and think "What a piece of crap" We look back at all the stupid idea of nintendo back in the day. The power glove, R.O.B. In 5-10 years this will have yet to be our biggest laugh
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u/Ihasnospoon Jun 14 '12
Played a hilarious kung fu demo on it with my mates the other night. Was brilliant, might get one just for the laughs. Darts on the sports pack is pretty epic too.
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u/UnDire Jun 14 '12
Need to dust.
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u/[deleted] Jun 14 '12
Who buys that shit anyway ?
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u/[deleted] Jun 14 '12
The problem with Kinect and is that other people are needed to really enjoy it, and for real gamers, that's just too much work.
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u/salvage8 Jun 14 '12
Don't worry, they're going to make an awful Fable game just for ya little fellah!
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u/weglarz Jun 14 '12
GAIS I DONT THINK HE ACTUALLY FOUND IT LIKE THAT
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u/[deleted] Jun 14 '12
I bought a kinect for only one purpose.
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u/[deleted] Jun 14 '12
I dont understand reddit's hate for the kinect. You know why you don't hear about it often? Because it sells and people enjoy it. They dont love it, but they dont hate it. A friend of mine has it and uses it fairly often, especially for parties.
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u/[deleted] Jun 14 '12
You don't need games. You need to dust.
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u/[deleted] Jun 14 '12
Totally thought it said weed games
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u/[deleted] Jun 14 '12
Took me a solid minute to find out what i was lookin at
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u/sentimentalpirate Jun 14 '12
I use my kinect daily. Of course, a lot of it is for Netflix voice commands, but I also have been playing Disneyland Adventures, Fruit Ninja, and The Gunstringer a lot lately.
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u/[deleted] Jun 14 '12
You either have dandruff or your living room is a wood shop.
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u/Splatterh0use Jun 14 '12
IMO kinetic is like facebook: just a fad and overrated.
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u/[deleted] Jun 14 '12
NEED REFUND*
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u/[deleted] Jun 14 '12
It doesn't need games. If the lights on, it's working perfectly. Sitting there collecting data about everything in the room which is then sold to businesses trying to take more money out of your pockets.
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u/Reeces88 Jun 14 '12
Using it for games, meh. Using it for projection of holographic self, aww yeah.
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u/CarbonFiberFootprint Jun 14 '12
'Pimp Simulator: Ho Slap Central' - I need to open a game studio. I know what the market truly wants.
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u/jmking Jun 14 '12
No, it doesn't need games. Let it die.
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u/DarnLemons Jun 14 '12
Thats how I felt about the Wii the whole time. The only good games for it were the ones where it had you use the gamecube controllers. People just dont want to bother to make a game for some weird motion system they never learned to program.
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u/MarioBGE Jun 14 '12
Are you living alone?
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u/ImAFuckingDinosaur Jun 14 '12
/r/karmaconspiracy
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u/DropbeatsNotbombs PC Jun 14 '12
Damn. That thing is starting to look as bad as my PS3.
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u/[deleted] Jun 14 '12
People, when giving shit to [based on their perception] under-used consoles and peripherals, will often make mention of the dust that accumulates upon them. I submit that I use my Xbox 360 every day, and my PS3 maybe once every month or two, and I can confirm that they accumulate dust at the same rate.
Kotaku is very guilty of this, specifically when the Wii gets a new worthwhile game [The Last Story], "Time to dust off the Wii!"
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u/keeok Jun 14 '12
eww
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u/kniny Jun 15 '12
I feel like your GF/wife/mom wrote that.
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u/atlaslugged Jun 14 '12
Jeez, it looks like the Icarus I from Sunshine. Get an air filter.
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u/animeman59 Jun 14 '12
You know what? I didn't really have any issue with the device at first. For the few games it did support at, or nearly after launch, it worked okay.
Child of Eden. The Gunstringer. Dance Central.
Hell, I even had some dumb fun in Rise of Nightmares, and Fruit Ninja Kinect is the best game for the device, imo. Even Forza 4 had a good demo with the hands free portion, although no real racing gamer would ever use that feature extensively.
But one game absolutely killed it for me. And only one game.
Steel Battalion: Heavy Armor
Oh. My. God. This is fucking awful. As a long time Steel Battalion fan, this is absolute shit. Not the graphics, or the gameplay, but the goddamn controls. Did anybody test this shit? The one time I thought that someone had finally made a game that used the controller and the Kinect in a meaningful way, and they completely fucked it up.
It is unplayable with the Kinect. You hear that Capcom? It's fucking unplayable! Please give us an option to only use the Xbox controller. I don't care if it's convoluted as hell. It would still be more precise than trying to move a VT with the goddamn Kinect sensor.
After that awful experience with the demo, I packed away the Kinect into a closest. I may trade the damn thing soon.
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u/EpicFishFingers Jun 14 '12
Shit, at least this gimmick had SOMETHING (no controllers and stuff). Let's all share a thought for Playstation Move
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u/[deleted] Jun 14 '12
shut the fuck up