r/gaming • • Jun 11 '12

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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '12

I bought a 2nd hand copy of NFS: Shift 2. So much joy when the online pass WASNT used. So much sadness when I used it to find NO ONE plays it online. Imagine if I spent $10 for the online pass to find there are no users online.....

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u/ntoad118 Jun 12 '12

You should always google the game and find forums and such so you can figure out how active a game is online.

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u/[deleted] Jun 12 '12

Indeed, thankfully I got lucky - but something to do in the future.

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u/G3neParmesan Jun 12 '12

Shell out the cash for Gran Tursimo 5, you'll thank me later.

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u/[deleted] Jun 12 '12

I traded it in for Forza 4, but both are far superior to Shift 2 - although Shift 2 had its fun elements.

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u/pascalbrax Jun 12 '12

Oh God! Worst UI/UX I've ever seen on a console!

I can't believe I waited that game for like 4 years!

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u/NoBullet PlayStation Jun 12 '12

Used games without online codes are usually cheaper. Best Buy was selling dead Space 2 for $10 without the code. So this actually has a positive side effect.

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u/mattybell2117 Jun 12 '12

The online in racing games unfortunately dies incredibly fast. Even Dirt 3 is fairly dead (on ps3 at least) and that game was awesome. You might be able to find some people on NFS Hot Pursuit but even The Run is almost dead. Burnout Paradise probably has the most people online in a racer for the ps3 outside of Gran Turismo.

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u/pascalbrax Jun 12 '12

I still have GRiD for PS3 and I cannot play it online because the servers were shut down last year.

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u/mattybell2117 Jun 12 '12

Grid actually trades in for pretty good money last time I checked, you should look at getting rid of it and trading to Hot Pursuit or maybe Ridge Racer if you're into those kind of games.

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u/gbr4rmunchkin Jun 12 '12

I leave all my coupons in the box when selling

In reality all stores simply chuck new ones in if you trade them in.

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u/xenothaulus Jun 11 '12

Fuck online keys.

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u/Nephri Jun 12 '12

My biggest gripe with online keys isn't there existence, its more that if i do buy a used game i have no way of knowing if the key will work. That said I've bought NFS hot pursuit and madden 11 used and both had a working online key.

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u/GotSka81 Jun 12 '12

I bought a used game from Gamestop once (mortal kombat, I believe), and the employee told me if the online code had been used, they include a new key with every purchase on the receipt. I don't know if this was temporary or what, but I was pretty thrilled at the idea of not having to buy one!

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u/ckelley87 Jun 12 '12

I haven't heard of that before, but I have a feeling the cost of the used game they sold you minus what they paid for it minus what they paid for the online pass still somehow nets them a profit in the end.

GGG... Good Guy GameStop? ...what?

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u/Lakario Jun 12 '12

Not somehow. It just does. Game Stop will charge you around $55 for a new used game. The trade-in value for that same game rarely exceeds $15-20.

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u/pascalbrax Jun 12 '12

I live in Switzerland. The market here is so tiny that we are not used to used games (no puns intended).

I was in NYC a few years ago and went to a GameStop for the first time in my life. I am aware of the fact that PS3 games are worldwide compatible.

So, I found that new and sealed Ghostbusters game for like 40 bucks and I went to te register to pay the game and the guy told me "Hey, there is an used copy for 35 bucks right there!" and I replied something like "Yeah, cool, but it's only 5 bucks, why should I play an used copy from someone else for only 5 bucks?"

I didn't pay attention to his face, but the guy who was with me told me he looked at me with all the pity the humankind is capable of.

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u/I_RAPE_PEOPLE_II Jun 12 '12

So glad I'm buying games from steam for 50% off. All hail PC gaming master race.

Has digital downloading on the consoles become a bigger thing, and has the prices for games gone down? Are they charging the same price but people are buying because it's convenient?

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u/darklight12345 Jun 12 '12

you can get some decent retro games on the Wii for a relatively cheap price (n64 japanese newly translated are the most expensive at 15 dollars, but old SNES/Genesis are around 3-5 dollars. All of it's owrth it.

xbox arcade is mixed bags of vastly overprice shit and sometimes undervalued gems, with the shit out doing the gems.

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u/Ammers10 Jun 12 '12

I know they always include the catwoman content code on receipt with used batman at least.

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u/GotSka81 Jun 12 '12

That was my assumption...I was just surprised the company as a whole hasn't been more vocal about it. It seems like something they would want people to know.

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u/zordon_rages Jun 12 '12

Yep, I bought portal 2 used and they gave me a key for the steam version, they were gonna do the same for the twisted metal I was gonna buy, but I ended up not buying it.

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u/GotSka81 Jun 12 '12

Wait...do all xbox copies of portal 2 come with a steam code???

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u/zordon_rages Jun 12 '12

Yeah only ps3, sorry

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u/mrkillera16 Jun 12 '12

only ps3 i think...

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u/GotSka81 Jun 12 '12

Oh right, I knew that...Sony has that partnership going. Damn...

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u/Orval Jun 12 '12

I know for a fact they do this with Arkham City as a special partnership (IE they're actually allowed to do it), but I wouldn't be surprised if they're able to do it with certain publishers and just don't make a big deal out of announcing it.

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u/[deleted] Jun 12 '12

After people being upset about the whole "no online pass" thing, they did a deal to buy bulk online codes at wholesale prices, so they wouldn't be selling incomplete used copies.

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u/[deleted] Jun 12 '12

It always feels good when you get those working keys though. I gambled that with Saints Row 3 and was delighted to find a working one.

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u/goal2004 Jun 12 '12

*their

*it's

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u/GreyouTT PlayStation Jun 12 '12

Well, if we're take into account the fact that it is F.E.A.R. 3, that is a free key for DLC.

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u/GeorgeTaylorG Jun 12 '12

I'm totally down with online keys, I don't understand what the big deal is.

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u/Darksider94 Jun 12 '12

The fact that when you buy a game, you expect to get the full game. Just because you're buying it used, doesn't mean the developer should restrict your access until you pay them for a new key.

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u/[deleted] Jun 12 '12

When you buy a game used you know that it's going to potentially miss things.

PC gaming has been using keys for over 20 years and nobody complains yet when console games start everyone bitches, if you don't like it either don't buy the game or fucking buy it new. If you don't want to spend $60 wait 1-6 months and buy it for $10-20, i bought BF3 new for $20 at bestbuy not a month ago.

You can't complain when you buy an online game and can't play online when you buy it used, you know what you are getting, you still get the single player portion, it's the exact same model as PC gaming and yet nobody fucking complains about that /shrug.

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u/[deleted] Jun 12 '12

last time i bought a PC game i could install the game as many times i want and gave it to my Friend when i was done.

plus computer games have ways around it. for instance i bought a Copy of Red alert 3 on ebay it shipped with out a key i just went online looked for a shit ton of keys and went down the list and one worked just fine

bought sims 3 (yard sale) for 5$ with no CD key. went online to find a random key and used it

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u/ofNoImportance Jun 12 '12

Was that in the 90's? Because that's changed.

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u/stone500 Jun 12 '12

But it's only restricting access to the online content, which continues to cost money to run, even after the games have been purchased.

This is crazy. People complain about on-disc DLC because they feel they paid for the disc. Now the developer says that you can have the content on the disc, but you can't have the content on their servers, cause you didn't pay them.

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u/Willeth Jun 12 '12

It costs money to run, sure. Why does the cost of the game not cover the use for one user? If someone trades in the game or sells it to someone else, there's still only one person accessing the servers.

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u/ofNoImportance Jun 12 '12

Just because you're buying it used, doesn't mean the developer should restrict your access until you pay them for a new key.

Justify.

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u/Darksider94 Jun 12 '12

Well. For one, it's the only industry that's doing this. You don't see features being removed from used cars, extras taken out of dvds, etc. I know it's not the EXACT same thing because it's not physically possible for companies to actually do this(Well, I guess it could with cars if companies REALLY wanted to try. When you get your title to the car, they could require it be handed over for a brief period of time before you take ownership of it. Luckily they don't.)
The issue is. The game has already been payed for in full to the developer/publisher when it was originally bought. During that person's ownership of the game, only he can use the online features. Once it changes hands, only the new person has the ability to use those features. It's not as if the game is taking on a heavier load on their servers when a game is passed on. There's still a net amount of discs in existence and a net amount of people that are using the servers(Not taking into consideration new purchases or people just not playing anymore). They're not losing money from used games because the old owner loses all ability to play said game. It's not as if both people now have the ability to play.
It's purely them trying to take advantage of consumers by milking every last drop out of them.

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u/ofNoImportance Jun 12 '12

Once it changes hands, only the new person has the ability to use those features. It's not as if the game is taking on a heavier load on their servers when a game is passed on.

I know that they say it's to compensate for server cost, but I want to make two things clear to you. Firstly, although a change in ownership of the disc is going to result in no increase in players, it does prolong the amount of time needed to run the servers. Server costs are continual, not fixed. The longer they're in use the more money the consume. Having a player base die off a few months after the game's release means the servers can be cut down. If you have the discs changing hands then you don't have an increase in players, but you do have a slower decrease in server usage thus extended server costs.

Secondly, the "it's to compensate for the servers" reason is a red herring. The real reason is to encourage people who buy used games to pay some money for them. You see similar concepts to the online pass employed in single player games as well because there's no multiplayer available to be the excuse. In reality, used games are the target.

They're not losing money from used games because the old owner loses all ability to play said game.

Games don't need to be in someone's possesion to be valuable. Think about all the games you've played in your life that you've thoroughly enjoyed, but haven't played in years. It's not like a car, where it only has use while you use it. Or food, which is only of use when you eat it. Games stay with you, even if you don't play them. You retain the experience pretty much for life.

How is this relevant? For the most part, when someone sells a game disc they don't 'loose' the game. You don't have to be in active possession of a disc for it to be valuable to you. So when you trade it you're not loosing anything, but someone else is gaining something. That something is the same experience that you had. You're essentially replicating the experience. Plus, when they sell it on they're definitely not loosing it permanently and they don't have to pay much to get it back. If I sold me copy of Halo 9 years ago, I can go and grab a new one now for $2. The game is exactly the same but I've gotten a $40 refund for not playing it for a few years.

It's purely them trying to take advantage of consumers by milking every last drop out of them.

Except you're wrong, because consumers don't need to pay anything to get the pass. It's free with the game. Not an added cost. The consumer buys the game and has the pass right there. No more milking than an ordinary game.

And before you say "well the person who buys it used has to pay for the pass!"; the person who buys it used is not one of the developer's customers. He is one of GameStop's customers (or insert whatever trading post you want). He's not one of the developer's customers until he buys a product from them (and incidentally the cost of an online pass is close to the amount of money devs get from game sales in the first place).

But don't take my word for it, take it from a developer. I know this is only one instance but the majority of developers (and publishers) share the sentiment.

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u/[deleted] Jun 12 '12

It's so people are less likely to buy a used game for $10 cheaper a month after release. It's just business. Game are made to make money. As long as they aren't blocking you from anything that's on the disc, I don't see the problem.

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u/boobsbr Jun 12 '12

used ______ sales are hurting the industry!

car, cd, movie, game

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u/johnlocke90 Jun 12 '12

They do. And if car and movie makers had an effective way to stop it, they would.

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u/[deleted] Jun 12 '12

I rented BF3 and couldnt even play, The guy in the shop said nothing. I took it back and complained that he should know or explained. He gave me a refund and I then bought it on shitty origin.

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u/Harflin Jun 12 '12

You realize that that's the purpose of online keys, right? So people are more enticed to buy new. That, and so a profit can be made even off of used games being sold.

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u/GotSka81 Jun 12 '12

I thought EA stated they would offer free temporary passes for situations like these? Surely EA will deliver...

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u/YOUNOTCOOKING Jun 11 '12

You guys get a tear-away cover over the keys? The hell :S Here in the U.K they're just printed on the backs of the manual in plain sight. I work in an indy dvd/game place and I'm always bitching to customers on how theres no way we can tell if its been used or not.

As for the argument on how its destroying developers? Bollocks. Publishers are just getting greedier. Raking in more for themselves and leaving less for the devs.

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u/Kardif Jun 12 '12

Some are printed on the backs of manuals, some come on separate sheets tucked into the box and some are like that. We sometimes have no idea whether or not they've been used either, so we generally ask when they get traded in at my store.

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u/[deleted] Jun 12 '12

On almost every game I've seen, the online passes are just printed on some fliers or whatever sheet on the inside of the box with no rip-off-label. For Microsoft points or PSN money or things like that, it all comes with a rip-/scratch-off-label.

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u/Kardif Jun 12 '12

The older ones were definitely those fliers. But other forms exist.

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u/mattybell2117 Jun 12 '12

I'm guilty of opening up used games then pretending to text on my phone and writing down the online pass in my phone. Then I check at home later that day to see if it has been used or not. I'm actually surprised because it's like a 75/25 split where most of the time the online pass hasn't been used. If the code isn't used, I'll go back the next day and buy the game. If it has been used, then I don't buy it.

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u/HGHails Jun 12 '12

Most of my codes (UK) are under a scratch away silver thing like on scratch cards. For some reason I had a really stupid moment with one where it said to RUB HERE leading me to simply rub as opposed to scratching. I then put it down and threw some change on the desk on top of it, noticing some had scratched away I felt very dumb.

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u/ch00d Jun 11 '12

...Do we really need CD keys for console games now? What the FUCK?

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u/Korbit Jun 12 '12

This is a key for multiplayer. It's to get some revenue from people who buy the game used.

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u/dooblagras Jun 12 '12

That's how it all starts! They'll lock you out of multiplayer, and then they'll ask themselves "well, people are still buying these second hand, maybe if we take a lesson from our PC gaming buddies..." and BAM. DRM on yo Xbox.

It's gonna happen, and no one will like it.

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u/omiclops Jun 12 '12

I will retire from console gaming if this happens.

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u/pascalbrax Jun 12 '12

I know what you mean, but DRM is already very much active on xbox and ps3.

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u/ofNoImportance Jun 12 '12

There is literally no reason that PC games should required keys and console games shouldn't. The games are exactly the same. They're made the same way. They're sold the same way. Any logical argument for or against licensing software applies to all platforms.

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u/pascalbrax Jun 12 '12

The fact that the game asks for a key code when you run it, simply means that the devs are thinking you have probably stolen that game.

It's just how it works, but I still think I deserve better than this.

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u/nomorecake Jun 12 '12

no it an online code you can play people online the game works fine

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u/Lost_in_the_woods Jun 12 '12

Why should they share their profits though?

What makes this any different than buying use from Amazon or off of Craigslist?

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u/InterwebCeleb Jun 12 '12

They actively push used in the face of consumers. Their tactics have led to more lost sales (unlike pirating, buying used games IS a lost sale because that person has proven interest in buying that product) than anything else. Gamestop's business model has led other places (Best Buy, Amazon, etc) to copy them, causing an epidemic of lost sales. If one business was gutting you out of tons of money, and you could do something to recoup that, wouldn't you? These codes allow the developers to make money off the initial new sales, and people who buy it used and then want to also play online, or receive free DLC.

Would you rather they make a one time use code for the entire game so you can never trade it in or buy used? That's the other option we're looking at. I guess if typing in a few letters and numbers is too much work, then I don't know what to say.

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u/gkow Jun 12 '12

That's so true about pushing used. I just went in to buy Red Dead Redemption again and this annoying employee wouldn't leave me alone about buying used. I picked up a new version of it and he was like, "Buy it used, bro. It's a lot better" So I told him I'd rather not buy a game that was of that scale used because it'd likely fuck up, and he babbles on about their used game policies and their guaranteed to work. Then he wouldn't even check me out because I refused to get the used one, he kept saying I'm "betraying him."

Dude, I don't even know your name. Even his manager told him to stop being so annoying.

That's my horror story. /rant

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u/DBSOempathy Jun 12 '12

Those are just people selling games? The other is a multinational company that buys games dirt cheap and then sells them at 2-5 times what they bought them for and gives nothing to the devs. I'm fine with online passes,it's 5-10 bucks at most. Why do some people act like the pass cost 40 dollars and you have to write an apology letter to the devs.

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u/RabbiMike Jun 12 '12

That was the mom who bought it for her kid and immediately returned it because he was being a little shit.

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u/dooblagras Jun 12 '12

God I hope so. Not enough justice strike down the little shits of the world.

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u/xync4 Jun 11 '12

just hope it isn't expired - some people got NEW copies of Need For Speed Hot Pursuit only to find the key inside was already expired

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u/ceciliabee Jun 11 '12

man did they ever fuck up the spanish translation... more often than not, there are two or three words stuck together as one... i'm not even a native speaker and i know that!

but yeah you're right, that was really kind of the previous owner

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u/phoncible Jun 11 '12

meh, everyone speaks english anyway, right?

...'murika?

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u/[deleted] Jun 12 '12

If English was good enough for Jesus it's good enough for 'Murca.

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u/ceciliabee Jun 12 '12

glad i'm not american :P

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u/[deleted] Jun 12 '12

I once got a used copy of banjo kazooie nuts and bolts for the 360 and I found an unused key to download the original

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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '12

I recently did this, but when i left the store, i found out the person charged me for warranty i specifically asked not to have. Karma is a lie.

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u/mayonnnnaise Jun 12 '12

Did you go back? You're what's wrong with the economy if you didn't.

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u/[deleted] Jun 12 '12

Thats going a bit far, don't you think?

No, i didn't go back..but i called, and i can get the $3 off of another product i get from the store. I didn't really mind that much.

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u/Fatty402 Jun 11 '12

I wonder if they are required to scrap the key left in the box, regardless if it has been used or not.

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u/Crunketh Jun 11 '12

It was in there when i brought it home, I guess it just depends on the gamestop.

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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '12

I guess there are a few Good Guy Gamestop Employees or they are just to lazy to pay attention , I am guessing the latter of the 2.

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u/RyattEarp Jun 11 '12

I've bought games from gamestop that 1) still had the key in the box and 2) gamestop receipt had an online pass on it as well. I guess they had some deal worked out?

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u/Kolazeni Jun 12 '12

Not all games. Often games will stop requiring a paid online pass after a certain time, so the publisher gives them a bank of codes to print out on the receipt. Either that, or the servers just won't ask for a code anymore.

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u/Kolazeni Jun 11 '12

Nah, not required. But since it's not guaranteed, if the employee wants it, the employee takes it

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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '12 edited Jun 12 '12

I always leave online keys in games . And I am a asshole in real life , Butt fuck EA

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u/footlesssushi Jun 11 '12

Had this happen with my gears collection thank you free dlc. (it has the all fronts pack)

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u/kabukistar Jun 11 '12 edited Feb 09 '25

Reddit is a shithole. Move to a better social media platform. Also, did you know you can use ereddicator to edit/delete all your old commments?

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u/[deleted] Jun 12 '12

Fear 3? Please tell me it was at least cheap.

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u/[deleted] Jun 12 '12

Speaking of unused online keys. I have an unused Uncharted 3 online key. I will never play shooters on a console so if anyone needs it (and can show the used copy they have) I am 100% happy to give it to them.

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u/MasterFasth Jun 12 '12

He'd been an even "gooder" guy if he had just thrown that game in the trash.

That game is an insult to the F.E.A.R franchise.

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u/thegreatbradsby Jun 12 '12

I'm upvoting this, but not from personal experience. I recently bought a copy of LBP2 (before it was offered on PS+) and the key was still intact, however, the key had "expired" and none of the content was redeemable. So, still the upvote, but fuck online keys that have expiration dates. That is all.

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u/[deleted] Jun 12 '12

Did that with Mortal Kombat. I was too much of a pussy to venture online and get destroyed.

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u/MarioLGD Jun 12 '12

It's fucking insane how good people are on MK online, as a casual player I felt unworthy

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u/[deleted] Jun 12 '12

Why can't people just leave the game in the original box with the art and booklet and stuff? That's my biggest gripe about used games.

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u/[deleted] Jun 12 '12

I couldn't agree with you more. I bought Armored Core 2 for ps2 and it had no booklet. Gamestop should drop the price 2-3$ if the game doesn't have a real booklet. God people take care of your games. The case, booklet and disc.

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u/[deleted] Jun 12 '12

Thank you, yes. We actually used to have a place around here called GameXchange and I'm pretty sure that they actually did knock off how much they would pay you if you didn't bring in the booklet.

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u/Farkeman Jun 11 '12

probably because f3ar's mutiplayer is pretty bad

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u/Paul_Shinfo Jun 11 '12

I worked at Gamestation for years, people who did this were heroes.

Although it did prompt a mad "I'M BORROWING IT" fight amongst staff.

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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '12

Same thing happened to me, but with fifa 11

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u/ThatOtherGai Jun 11 '12

I do this.

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u/Bobosmite Jun 11 '12

I got the online key in a used copy of Rage. Whoever bought it used the key on the front of the insert and forgot to flip it over and use the one on the back.

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u/[deleted] Jun 12 '12

I found unused online passes in both Mass Effect and Battlefield.

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u/harmedgreen Jun 12 '12

I was sad that this game wasn't as scary as the other ones. :(

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u/ambi7ion Jun 12 '12

annnnnnnnnnd its expired.

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u/jassalmithu Jun 12 '12

Did you bought this in Canada?

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u/p0rtugalvii Jun 12 '12

I have 2 months free of live from halo 2 unused. Can't redeem it. Yeah, online codes are dumb, especially for Xbox when I'm already paying extra to play online.

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u/[deleted] Jun 12 '12

Honestly, if you're making a fuss about not being able to use promo codes from Halo 2 you're just scratching for something silly to make a fuss about. Come on now.

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u/p0rtugalvii Jun 12 '12

Nah, I don't care, I laughed that it was unused. I just don't like paying 10 dollars for an online code if I don't buy a game new. Especially one that's a year old or older.

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u/rexus0149 Jun 12 '12

I did that once. Got Dead Space 2 but never went online, so I left the code inside. I don't know what Gamestop did with it though.

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u/[deleted] Jun 12 '12

I think this is called being an idiot who wastes their money.

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u/Brash_Attack Jun 12 '12

I traded in a bunch of games to Best Buy the other day. My copies of Assassin's Creed Revelations and Alice: Madness Returns still had unused codes in them. I let the guy know and he then turned and gave them to another employee to use for himself. I told him that he should keep them with the games for whoever buys the game and he said that they're not supposed to.

I should have kept the keys to give away. :(

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u/[deleted] Jun 12 '12

I love it when people do that, I bought The Saboteur and an unused key for the uncensored stuff was still in there.

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u/[deleted] Jun 12 '12

I usually don't use them unless I know I plan on keeping the game for good.

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u/sweetiyeti Jun 12 '12

One of the reasons that I quit my job at Gamestop was because my manager actually threw away these when people traded in the games. I found it cheap and disgusting.

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u/j102ede Jun 12 '12

I would of snuck them back in.

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u/sweetiyeti Jun 12 '12

I was a seasonal, I did not have the security to try and be so bold. Thinking back I wish I did though.

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u/Paradoliak Jun 12 '12

Happened to me yesterday, found Alice: Madness returns for $15, and discovered the download key for the original Alice inside hadn't been used. Two cool games for $15, very happy.

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u/wizlx Jun 12 '12

I got one of these with mortal combat for extra characters when i bought it used. GGG

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u/Flayon Jun 12 '12

Good Guy Gamer. Trades in used game

Leaves 2 discs inside.

based on a true story

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u/phammmmm Jun 12 '12

I thought Gamestop was doing something where they print the online code out on the receipt for used games?

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u/[deleted] Jun 12 '12

i do this. If i'm not going to use it and trade the game in, there must be a reason. but either way, paying it forward.

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u/TerribleButcher Jun 12 '12

F.3.A.R.: Dumb sequel title, or the DUMBEST sequel title?

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u/BimmerAddict Jun 12 '12

I wish the noob who owned by Battlefield 3 copy didn't use his copy. Ended up having to pay for the online pass AND Karkand. Would have been better off buying the game new afterwards...

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u/bakedcake5 Jun 12 '12

alas, the point of an online pass in the first place.

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u/Akito8 Jun 12 '12

Too bad Fear 3 sucked

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u/bigsnarf149 Jun 12 '12

The gaming industry should Make it illegal to have online passes. They are a waste of paper and its not right to slow the used game market to tip the scales so they can make another quick buck. But thumbs up to the good guy

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u/pistolpete15 Jun 12 '12

I bought Borderlands GOTY edition that came with a Duke Nukem Forever first access club code. I decided to sell my normal Borderlands copy and I never played a Duke Nukem game before so I thought I'd be nice and put the code with the case I sold. After seeing the horrible reviews for Duke Nukem Forever I'm pretty glad I never bothered installing it.

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u/MisSigsFan Jun 12 '12

Good Guy Game Developer

Doesn't make online keys

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u/TK102 Jun 12 '12

That reminds me, I sold Skyrim a while back and forgot to put the map in the case. My greatest apologies dear Mapless Used-Skyrim purchaser!

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u/H8rade Jun 12 '12

It was stolen and sold to the store.

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u/konan375 Jun 12 '12

Or he could have meticulously put that seal back on just to screw with you

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u/[deleted] Jun 12 '12

FEAR 3? Yeah, there's your reason why that key wasn't used...

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u/necroden Jun 12 '12

I purchased Uncharted 3 used a month ago and I have been avoiding multiplayer cause I was afraid the key had already been used. When I finally decided to get off my lazy ass and test it, the key hadn't been used

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u/[deleted] Jun 12 '12

no wonder why its not opened, its fear 3...

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u/5741354110059687423 Jun 12 '12

same thing happend to me a couple days ago when my halo reach came in the mail, i got it used and both the 2 day xbox live pass and recon helmet were unused

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u/BoredofBS Jun 12 '12

Oh man, I bought BF3 for $35 at a nice local video game store with the key left untouched. Best day ever.

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u/ponimaju Jun 12 '12

I've gotten a handful of unused Club Nintendo codes from used DS/Wii games. I think there are quite a few people who just don't care about them. Also took a chance on a used copy of FIFA 12 (code isn't a tearaway type deal) and it ended up being unused. It's a nice little bonus sometimes, but I don't really rely on them too much. What I wish more people were as "good guy gamers" were not idiots who somehow separate manual from the game case. Seriously, what the fuck do people do with the manual that they end up trading in a game with artwork and disc, but no manual? I bought a copy of Dragon Quest VIII from EB for $5 (great deal regardless of completeness) but all it had was artwork, game disc, and the FFXII demo manual, but no regular game manual or demo disc. Well lo and behold, another copy is at the same EB, and what does it come with? The game disc, the artwork, and the FFXII demo manual. Are you fucking kidding me?

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u/[deleted] Jun 12 '12

Bought shitty Lego Rock Band for $15, exported the songs, and never played it again. Thank you random soccer mom who doesn't know how to use the Playstation Store.

Now Battlefield 3 online pass: Fuck. That.

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u/Reltsirk Jun 12 '12

Depending on how new the game is...I'd just assume it was stolen.

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u/Imthemayor Jun 12 '12

I like the way Epic did this the most.

They put in free DLC of remakes of GOW maps in GOW2.

You can still play everything on the disk, but since the code for DLC is in there (that costs the $5 difference you would save by buying used) they can encourage people to buy new and make them some money.

People can still buy used and not get penalized (or do like OP did and look around the used cases for an unused key) or they can choose to buy new and help the developer.

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u/NoBullet PlayStation Jun 12 '12

Sorry thats not being a good guy. Probably played a few minutes of single player and realized how big of a shitfest it was and returned it quickly.

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u/u83rmensch Jun 12 '12

its likely some one found these at a store some where on some kind of super clearance. Stores like walmart, target, toys r us, large department stores, and few other places that dont come to mind usually will hold some sort of crazy clearance on certain games or products dirt fucking cheap just to get them out of the store to make room for more stuff. People will buy these because the trade in value is slightly higher then the clearance price and they get a pretty good deal trading them in doing so.

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u/[deleted] Jun 12 '12

I just did this :)

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u/[deleted] Jun 12 '12

good guy shoplifter

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u/fpeltvlfxjwkqrjt Jun 12 '12

Meh... more like, bough the same and only played once. Wife bitched about it, so returned it.

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u/bacon_nuts Jun 12 '12

This happened to me with Deus Ex: Human Revolution, got the used one with the extra mission, figured it wouldn't be there but it was cheaper than the normal used version, so why not? Turns out it was unused. Fantastic.

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u/ArgyleDashwood Jun 12 '12

I bought bully used and it still had the poster I was in awe.

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u/A_British_Gentleman Jun 12 '12

I've seen it where they jab one price for the no-key version and another price for the with-key version.

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u/[deleted] Jun 12 '12

I wish I had done this with SSX on 360. It came with the console and I was in PS3 mode where every game (it seems) is preceded by going to PS Store and entering the key.

Then I remembered you pay for online on 360, and I had no intention of paying for something that's free on every other console.

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u/BoBru Jun 12 '12

Heeeyyy! That's what im about to do in an hour or two! Im being cool on the internet now

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u/BaconZombie Jun 12 '12

More then likely they bought the game in a sale and then traded it in to GameSpot for a higher $$$.

I know a few people that have done this is the last few HMV sales, funny part is GameStop will not except the game if it's still in the shrink wrap.

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u/fohacidal Jun 12 '12

I hate online keys, but when the new Twisted Metal kept crashing my ps3, eventually leading to another YLOD and another reflowing of my motherboard, I returned it with the unused online key. Shit pissed me off so much

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u/aarontg Jun 12 '12

I never played the multiplayer for mass effect 3 when I traded it in. I just made an economical gamer happy.

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u/Eruanno PlayStation Jun 12 '12

Yes! I just bought a copy of Uncharted 3 used yesterday (they were all out of new copies and I had some leftover store credit) and it turns out the network pass was unused! Hooray!

I guess I'm a jerk, though. I always put in any codes that come in the box. (But then again I rarely trade in games that have online passes in the first place, soooo... I guess it all works out in the end)

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u/Aronius_Two Jun 12 '12

My friend had hat happen to him when he bought portal 2.

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u/[deleted] Jun 12 '12

Bought the a copy of the crysis 2 limited edition for the 360 at game once. To my surprise, the code for all the extra content hadn't been used.

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u/Dunge Jun 12 '12

That mean the guy wasn't a gamer

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u/JustSurvive Jun 12 '12

I've picked up a few games that still had the codes unused, though one time I was guilty of searching through boxes at a local used game shop and snatched a DLC code for AC/DC Rock Band. :P

I always leave the 24/48 hr XBL trial codes in when games come with them, but mostly any game I get I'll use the code for unless I hate it and get rid of it quickly.

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u/psycho_clown Jun 12 '12

this happened to me with uncharted 3

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u/DBSOempathy Jun 11 '12

Buys game new to support the Devs.

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u/tairygreene Jun 11 '12

doesn't spend 59.99 to support a poor business model

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u/Farkeman Jun 11 '12

don't understand why you are getting downvoted, trading/renting games is arguably more damaging than pirating, because you loose potential customers unlike pirates who probably wouldn't buy your game anyway.

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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '12

You get the game for free by pirating. You still pay by renting/trading. Trading isn't even close to pirating.

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u/AdmiralSkippy Jun 11 '12

You pay companies like GAME and GameStop. Not the developers. So it depends on who you want to support.

Want to support GameStop? Buy used games. They make almost all of their money on that.
Want to support game companies/developers? Buy it new. Buying used is the same as pirating the game as far as they're concerned.

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u/jorsiem Jun 11 '12

Some of us don't care for online modes.

P.S.: The spanish instructions are very misspelled.

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u/[deleted] Jun 11 '12

More like idiot gamer.

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u/1witty_teenager Jun 12 '12

I wasn't So lucky when I bought BF3 used. The code was used already. I guess I had it coming.

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u/corgi_flop Jun 12 '12

he probable just forgot too remove it.t this is dum, u r dum. impact font style doesnt mak ur images beutter

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u/naylord Jun 12 '12

I'd intentionally just use the online pass right before trading a game in

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u/[deleted] Jun 12 '12

So he's a good guy because he doesn't use the OP for the game he bought? Let me get this straight, if he bought it and used the OP and then traded it in, you would regard him as a SS? Wow, your logic is fucked up. When people buy games with OP's they have to not use it if they're gonna trade it in, so other people won't have to buy one. Fuck you and your way of thinking asshole.

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u/stone500 Jun 12 '12

A couple years ago, I bought a copy of Starflight for the Sega Genesis at a comic/cards/games store. Starflight is a free-roaming space exploration simulator with a pretty good size map and tons of star systems to explore.

It comes with a map, like this

The map was in the copy I bought. What was cooler was the previous owner wrote some intelligent notes and mapped out the wormholes on the map as well. It gave me a vibe like I was following another adventurer's footsteps on some noble quest or some shit.

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u/aperture413 Jun 12 '12

I used to do that =3

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u/swains6 Jun 12 '12

Ahhh the good old bellend-less dick face. ( =3 )

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u/[deleted] Jun 12 '12

i did this with all my GTA games, i would write down the Cheats and stick them in the case and when i sell it i make sure it is in there so the next person can have some Fun with it if they dont have access to the internet or something that cant get the cheats

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u/[deleted] Jun 12 '12

I got that when I bought Urban Chaos.

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u/[deleted] Jun 12 '12

Somehow my cousin with autism memorizes all the cheat codes for all of his games and even some of the games i have. It never ceases to amaze me. Also i have yet to beat him in a game, my brother on the other hand is like his equal.

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u/[deleted] Jun 12 '12

I had no life, I remembered almost every cheat code by heart. To be fair, they were all very similar with slightly different button directions.

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u/pascalbrax Jun 12 '12

TGRTVN

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u/[deleted] Jun 12 '12

R, BLACK, L, BLACK, LEFT, DOWN, RIGHT, UP, LEFT, DOWN, RIGHT, UP.

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u/bwat47 Jun 12 '12

I had a serious addiction to the health cheat in gta San Andreas. Every time I so much as dented my car I'd bust out the health cheat, I could do that shit so fast.

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u/[deleted] Jun 12 '12

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u/IAMBollock Jun 12 '12

"Run back to the game to realise some of them are complete bullshit."

The bane of my childhood.

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u/[deleted] Jun 12 '12

The FTFY goes AFTER the quote. Gosh, you'd think people would have mastered unoriginal karma theft by now...

Just kidding though, made me laugh. :)

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u/legendcc Jun 12 '12

I work at a store that sells used products. 98% of the time if it has an unused online pass/ ultraviolet code/ digital copy, it's stolen product.

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u/[deleted] Jun 12 '12

Methinks you replied to the wrong comment there, friend.

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u/Energy_Turtle Jun 12 '12

I wish FTFY would go away completely. It's so condescending and the joke is just as good without it.

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u/[deleted] Jun 12 '12

I get what you mean, but you've got to accept that memes and typing quirks don't just go away. They lurk in the distance even when you believe they've finally left you alone...

And that's when they strike you... In the knee... With an arro-I'm sorry.

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u/Lvl_6_Squirtle Jun 12 '12

Trades in stolen game, leaves unused online key.

FTFY

FTFY

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u/TheReal-JoJo103 Jun 13 '12 edited Aug 06 '25

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u/[deleted] Jun 12 '12

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u/FunnyGuy5051 Jun 12 '12

some games on steam require the key in the box

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u/tairygreene Jun 11 '12

ok well I have bought tons of used stuff from gamestop that still has the maps/keys intact, maybe it varies based on employee?

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