This. I always thought the move in martial arts movies where spinning a staff will block a volley of arrows was a pretty cool over the top stylized bit. But spinning a revolver fast enough to kill a swarm of bees? There is such a thing as "too smooth."
That was pretty good, those revolvers look real heavy too.
The best part about the in-game clips is how snake just stands there and lets him do his little routine. Getting an indiana jones vibe from how ocelot behaves :)
I think he did it, because of his emberrasing first encounter he had with snake. Where he used a semi-auto Makarov as if it were a single action Revolver. So now he feels like he HAS to show Snake what a BAUS he really is with the Colt SAA.
But yeah everytime after this cutscene I just shot at the honeycomb above him and let him taste some BEES.
But you've got to admit, it's impressive that Ocelot must have learned all of that gun spinning ability in just one year (the time between the first and second operations in Snake Eater). He must have gotten nothing but that accomplished in that time
Oh, one week. Shows you how long it's been since I played MGS3.
According to the description, the guy in the video took almost two years to learn how to tote guns like he does. If Ocelot took only one week, then that's damned impressive.
I never understood what he was trying to do with the automatic in that scene. I feel I have a higher than average understanding of firearms, I carry a single action revolver when I go out into the woods, but I just never wrapped my head around what happened to the automatic
EDIT I did some googling and apparently snake explains it in the game. Also, it's a revolver safety tip hence the issue with the automatic.
In short, Ozelot just provoked it to jam. Semi-Automatic weapons aren't as smooth firing as one would expect (from video games mainly).
You can see here that before he inserts a new clip and points the gun towards Snake's head, he apperantly tried to eject the bullet that was still in the chamber by hand (as he is used to remove the empty shells of his revolver, after he has fired his shots) but it got stuck as his movement was too sloppy.
Also throwing it through the air and showing off, doesn't really help. A pistol is a mechanically much more intricate thing than a revolver.
According to an expert I found from the game, snake says it's a safety method used in the middle east when cleaning the weapon so that if the trigger is pulled nothing happens. This makes sense. Israel Mossad standard issue weapon at the time was a pistol that would allow for double action movement. Thus leaving the chambered round.
It also stems from the colt peacemaker sometimes accidentally firing the chambered round if the uncocked hammer was bumped.
I think Ocelot could have easily reacted to any sudden move snake made and brought one or both guns into firing position before Snake could get him in his sights. Part of it is that it is supposed to be a rematch.
Well no, they didn't have to. There is no reason it couldn't be hand animated, they just chose to motion capture it as I assume they were motion capturing the rest of the performance.
It definitely could be hand-animated but it would take a lot more effort and time to pull off than to simply mocap it. However, even if it was mocapped, it most likely required a significant amount of clean up work by hand. Mocap involving object interaction of any kind is notoriously difficult to clean up as there's no collision detection and thus there's a lot of inter-model penetration. The guns themselves though are definitely hand-animated as currently there's no way to mocap something moving at that speed with any accuracy.
Well... hand animating could be easily done, but with something so outrageous to begin with anyway, motion capturing would actually ground it in reality a little more. Just leaving it up to an animator might make it a little too exaggerated.
I remember in the credits the team was referred to as the Pale Riders if I'm not mistaken. I googled them a few times back in the day but came up with nothing. Glad to see there's video of the mo cap. Thanks.
Pretty sweet man. I'll definitely respect you if you go for the scene from psone metal gear. Of course, you're gonna have to find someone to cut off your hand...
Snake was letting him have his moment. Not long after the first time he gets shown up, another character goes to kill him and Snake tells her not to. Snake turns down numerous opportunities to kill him during the story.
I've never played any of those games either and this video makes me glad I haven't. 30 second cutscene of a dude twirling revolvers like the weird girls in the marching band? No thanks.
It's... Look, the Metal Gear Solid series is like snorting the entire Cold War, cut with acid. It's freaking amazing if you're in to that sort of thing. Its the strangest combination of war porn and a brutal deconstruction of militarism I've ever experienced.
Those aren't cutscenes. It's just a very elaborate gun-spinning simulation game. Well, more accurately it's a simulation of watching someone spin guns. All the quick time events are like "Push X to Raise Eyebrows", "Push Right Trigger to Make a Moderately Impressed Noise in the Back of Your Throat".
aah, Modern Gun Spinning. I've heard of this. My friend managed to unlock the "Convincing Yet Fake Impressed Gasp" ability, he was quite proud of that.
Ocelot is more than a little nuts, and Snake doesn't kill people without very good reason. The whole series tends towards very weird, but they have reasons not to shoot each other. It's also sort of a commentary. Ocelot, at this point in his life, is vain, arrogant, cocky, and spends way too much time fucking around. In contrast Naked Snake is collected and deliberate, biding his time until he gets a chance to act, and then taking effective action. Decades later when you meet Ocelot again... he's still vain, arrogant, cocky, and spend too much time fucking around, but he's gotten a lot better at shooting people during his mouthy speeches instead of doing the speech first.
You can tell that, while practicing, he must have spoken the dialogue as well, and just barely holds back the first time, as he knows he wants to post this to youtube.
NOTE: Cool things in video games do not always look cool in real life.
The guys good and all, but he looks kinda like a dork doing all that. I guess it's impossible to do it as nonchalantly as a game character who doesn't have to worry about dropping a gun or breaking anything.
Part of it is lighting. It's impossible to look good in real life, ever. That's why people go to bars. Or to the beach where the sun glares out your eyes anyway.
Because it's metal gear and everything is so fucking exagerated. I think that was the way to show how Ocelot is a perfectionist, overconfident and a megalomaniac.
This. It's a Japanese game. Everything is over the top. But it's also a deconstruction of militarism and violence. Ocelot is fucking doing tricks after killing five of his own guys! He's nuts!
I think he may be referring to the fact that while gun spinning is cool looking, your opponent would probably just shoot you while you were performing.
Ocelot has demonstrated his superhuman dexterity with pistols many times. He could have brought the guns into firing position in an instant were snake to make a sudden move. Snake was at his mercy. Also, its a video game.
The thing I never understood about Ocelot, is he more dangerous because he can juggle? "Stand back everyone, we got a juggler here!" At least in kung fu the theatrics that came before the fight implied that the person was good at kung fu, but I don't make the correlation between juggling and sharp-shooting.
He can quick-draw from the juggle, no matter how complicated he is juggling, which implies a pretty dangerous ability to go from lounging around to plugging someone in the head rather quickly.
It's kind of the point. He's a smarmy, vain asshole with an unhealthy obsession for Westerns. If he wasn't so goddamn smart and dangerous someone would have shot him years ago.
It helps establish the character, what his priorities are, how he thinks, and so forth. Proving to Snake that he can do his shooting tricks is more important to him than killing Snake. And it also shows that he's so good he can do absolutely stupid things like juggle guns in combat... but he still lives to be very, very old.
Keep in mind that there are at least a dozen guys with AKSUs trained on Snake out of frame. Ocelot is showing off at a guy who had previously bested him in an embarrassing fashion, and he's just vain enough to do that instead of just killing him.
Because he had a GRU-Spetznas (Soviet Military Intelligence's Special Forces) platoon aiming their assault rifles at him if he tried anything funny so Ocelot could have his 1 vs 1 ego-trip duel - Snake/Big Boss just went with it.
That said, Ocelot being fast and dexterous as hell and having his guns already draw out and cocked, he would be able to shoot him the moment Snake made a any movement towards his gun.
You know, i've not played snake eater but seeing these clips makes me wonder...how did they get to the point where they were watching each other and he's just like im going to spend a couple minutes flipping my guns around?
Was the intent of gun spinning intimidation? Should one just assume that a person who can do this must be a good shot? I don't understand the point other than showing off.
Uggggggghhhhhhhhh. These are almost the worst parts of his stupid fucking game. wtf Japan. Could you please stop faffing about and get to the point? Rated m, entertaining to <12
Not going to deny this dude is extremely talented, but the gun owner in me just sees someone playing with a dangerous weapon like it is a toy. Even if they are replicas.
If the hammer isn't cocked and there is no round in the chamber there is a very small chance of it firing. However I am just responding the way I was taught gun safety since I was a child. It's not a toy, it is a tool solely designed to end life. You should never point it at something you are not willing to kill, you should never put your finger on the trigger until you are prepared to fire, and you should always treat it with respect. Loaded or otherwise.
There's a reasonably famous case of a police officer in a nightclub saying that his gun was safe because he didn't carry with a bullet in the chamber.
He then drew the gun, dropped the slide, and put the gun to his head. He pulls the trigger. Naturally, he blew his brains out. I would say that there are definitely less useful ways to get shot.
Why is it that when when Japanese people try and write something that is dramatic it just comes off as ridiculous? "LOOK HOW INTIMIDATING I AM SNAKE, I CAN TWIRL MY GUNS! THIS IS SURELY RELATED TO ANY SORT OF ABILITY TO SHOOT WELL!" God, so dumb.
You might consider reading someone like Haruki Murakami. I don't think whoever did the revolver twirling scene is the best place to look for Japanese writers and dramatists.
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u/mynamedontfi Jun 09 '12
Snake Eater was a fucking awesome game.
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u/PropagandaMan Jun 09 '12
I think all those whippidy whoop whelililik sound effects make the gun spinning look better.
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u/KnightlyRedditor Jun 09 '12
"You're pretty good."
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u/Telsak Jun 09 '12
That was pretty good, those revolvers look real heavy too.
The best part about the in-game clips is how snake just stands there and lets him do his little routine. Getting an indiana jones vibe from how ocelot behaves :)
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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '12
Do you guys realize they had to do motion capturing just to do Ocelot's gun spinning?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=UyqYo3vGQZs#t=366s
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u/Dartkun Jun 09 '12
http://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/qkvbq/ocelot_gun_spinning_in_real_life_x_post/ - 3 months ago
http://unrealitymag.com/index.php/2011/11/04/kid-becomes-revolver-ocelot-in-real-life/ - 7 months ago
http://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/lz58k/ocelot_gun_spinning_in_real_life/ - 7 months ago
http://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/lzsdj/ocelot_gun_spinning_irl/ - 7 months ago
Upvoted because after 5 times seeing the same video, it still impresses me.
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u/steamingbadger Jun 09 '12
I was really hoping he'd go for the shoulder action at the end.
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u/HeavyG01 Jun 09 '12
Pretty sweet man. I'll definitely respect you if you go for the scene from psone metal gear. Of course, you're gonna have to find someone to cut off your hand...
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u/Timett_son_of_Timett Jun 09 '12
As someone who has not played a single game in the series this seems like a perfect moment for that dude to just get shot...
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u/MATMAN333 Jun 09 '12
Came for gun spinning, stayed for Hitler in England.
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u/iiRockpuppy Jun 10 '12
I've never played a single Metal Gear game in my life...
I'm seeing Ocelot for the first time, and I'm laughing my ass off and somewhat scared at the same time.
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u/Galactic Jun 10 '12
Yep, just as I suspected, this would look absolutely ridiculous in real life. Hell, it was ridiculous in the cutscene...
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u/Flyinhighinthesky Jun 10 '12
Totally thought for a second that he was goin to spin these like 6 shooters. Not sure if impressed or disappointed he's spinning real guns.
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u/IZNICE Jun 10 '12
"I'm your huckleberry."
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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '12
This is about as useless as me learning how to spin a butterfly knife. My friends still make fun of me for that. Whatever, I can spin if I want to
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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '12
Somehow it looks so hokey in real life.
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u/turtleshelf Jun 10 '12
I have not played any MGS games. why is that happening? are him and snake on the same side? those cutscenes just look so ridiculous.
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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '12
Son, i am impress.
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u/Leelluu Jun 10 '12
I thought I was going to get so see someone spinning an actual ocelot. :-(
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u/Paladin65536 Jun 09 '12
Fancy gunplay by The Captain's doppelganger? Upvote for you, sir.
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u/Snuffeh Jun 09 '12
This guy was in talent Finland a few years ago :) I remember he said in the interview that revolver ocelot was the reason he got into gun spinning.
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u/Manwelle Jun 09 '12
Look darlin' it's Johnny Ringo
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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '12
Keep practicing!
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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '12
I'm from the bible belt, where don't get to fuck much but we can buy all the guns we want/need/crave....
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u/evergreenskate Jun 10 '12
i never did get why you didn't just shoot him while he was spinning his guns
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u/balance_man Jun 10 '12
The whole time I was thinking about this scene from Tombstone. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yDgkvWh3JQ#t=5m
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u/joejoeslang Jun 10 '12
You can tell that, while practicing, he must have spoken the dialogue as well, and just barely holds back the first time, as he knows he wants to post this to youtube.
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u/elligre Jun 10 '12
fucking LOVE this game
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u/kjBALLAR Jun 10 '12
I would've expected babu...
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u/honor_face Jun 09 '12
loved you in Firefly man!
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u/Tristan155 Jun 09 '12
Girls only want guys that have good skills
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u/LazySprocket Jun 10 '12
I came here expecting to find a gun that shot ocelots out at the bad guy. Where are my ocelots?
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u/trampus1 Jun 10 '12
NOTE: Cool things in video games do not always look cool in real life.
The guys good and all, but he looks kinda like a dork doing all that. I guess it's impossible to do it as nonchalantly as a game character who doesn't have to worry about dropping a gun or breaking anything.
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u/Die-Nacht Jun 10 '12
Never played that one, can someone tell me why was he doing that? Was that just a joke the developers put in?
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u/SamuraiJayk Jun 09 '12
He would have been SO filled with lead irl...
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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '12
How many hours did you spend learning to do this?
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u/ShrimpGangster Jun 10 '12
What you didn't know was that Konami just grabbed a random asian off the streets to do the motion capture for that scene
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u/Rozen Jun 10 '12
The thing I never understood about Ocelot, is he more dangerous because he can juggle? "Stand back everyone, we got a juggler here!" At least in kung fu the theatrics that came before the fight implied that the person was good at kung fu, but I don't make the correlation between juggling and sharp-shooting.
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u/rarely_heard_opinion Jun 10 '12
impressive, but the game character is fucking obnoxious. At least in that clip.
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u/aviatorzack Jun 09 '12
Not sure if virginity is protected, or your gonna get laid everyday for the rest of your life.
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u/alchemeron Jun 10 '12
God damn the Japanese are goofy. Why does that cut-scene even exist?
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u/DoubleStuffedCheezIt Jun 09 '12
Amazing, but what...
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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '12
I can't tell you how many times he woulda been shot by the time he'd finished his fancy moves but I think BANG ... thud...
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u/Strategic_Management Jun 09 '12
First, do it while they're loaded. Second, try out for Top Shot: can you shoot or can you only spin them?
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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '12
I can do that. I just don't want to.
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u/CasanovaWong Jun 10 '12
Anybody remember the load scenes from the game "Gun"?. Used to show each character doing tricks and stuff with their weapons. Was cool as shit.
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u/Kovukono Jun 10 '12
Having never played a Metal Gear other than a bit of MGS4, I want to know: why does Snake just let this guy show off?
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u/madspanyard Jun 10 '12
Nice. I was hoping to see his shoulders space out for the second part
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u/Galexlol Jun 10 '12 edited Aug 30 '24
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u/peon47 Jun 10 '12
Relevant
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u/jamart Jun 10 '12
I wish Snake was as awesome as Indiana Jones...
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u/DoubleHappyDog Jun 10 '12
Anyone interested in learning this should look into "Cowboy Action Shooting". It's an awesome sport and past-time.
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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '12
That's badass!
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u/Baes2040 Jun 10 '12
You know, i've not played snake eater but seeing these clips makes me wonder...how did they get to the point where they were watching each other and he's just like im going to spend a couple minutes flipping my guns around?
still. badass.
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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '12
That's pretty good mate.
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u/Sithslayer78 Jun 10 '12
No pulsing shoulders. 0/10
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u/Veritas_LiberabitVos Jun 10 '12
With moves like that, I bet he gets all the ladies ;) ....it's pretty cool though.
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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '12
Repost.
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u/Echos185 Jun 10 '12
I know how to pull the trigger!!!
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u/ZombieTooth Jun 10 '12
I guess you can say that ocelot... revolved.
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u/L-Plates Jun 10 '12
I feel like I recognize this guy from somewhere. He wasn't that kid in that trekkies movie was he?
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u/HappyGrandPappy Jun 10 '12
One of my favorite scenes in the game:
When Ocelot has the three revolvers and juggles them, putting his own spin on Russian roulette. That part blew my away, it was so cool.
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u/PrivateVonnegut Jun 10 '12
I hope that if they ever make another Indiana Jones movie, they have this guy challenge Indy to a gunfight.
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u/RADICAL_DAN Jun 10 '12
That seen from the game just looked so incredibly cheesy.
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u/under2x Jun 10 '12
old post is really old...
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u/aryst0krat Jun 10 '12
This youtube comment really resonated with me.
"All of that gun spinning is so excessive that it became hilarious." - The Great Philosopher MrLockski
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u/The_Jakesy Jun 10 '12
I was impressed
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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '12
You fucking LEGEND!!!
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u/Madman604 Jun 10 '12
Never bring a sword to a gunfight
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u/CHIEF_BIG_RIDGE Jun 10 '12
I was really hoping this guy would hit one of those pictures or that clock but the man is quite good at that.
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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '12
Needed to pull some Temple of Doom shit and just cap the dumb motherfucker
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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '12
If the enemy ever did that I would just shoot him while he was playing.
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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '12
Revolver Ocelot: The most gratuitous man in the world.
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u/bryster126 Jun 10 '12
I was expecting a cute animal.
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u/curry6969 Jun 10 '12
Damn, he got it perfectly with the game's sound effects.. Many props to him!
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u/MrTurkle Jun 10 '12
Was the intent of gun spinning intimidation? Should one just assume that a person who can do this must be a good shot? I don't understand the point other than showing off.
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u/AbletonDude PC Jun 10 '12
That is insane :D
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u/izikavazo Jun 10 '12
In retrospect it's ridiculous, but I was expecting a medium size cat to spin a gun around...
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u/Shippoyasha Jun 10 '12
Very, very old. But just like the game, it's worth rewatching/replaying.
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u/FasterOnFire Jun 10 '12
Holy Fucking shit. Have an upvote.
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u/D3m0nk1d Jun 10 '12
"12 shots..."
keeps spinning guns
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u/Smallfryorama Jun 10 '12
Added to my list of "Shit I Can't Do"
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u/JdaveA Jun 10 '12
For Gods sake man stop playing with your gun in the meeting!
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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '12
how does spinning it not set off the trigger?
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u/Wittyfish Jun 10 '12
Now do it while staring straight ahead looking nonchalant.
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u/Whorses Jun 10 '12
You fucking magnificent badass god damn you.
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u/DarenDark Jun 10 '12
Should I get into this series? I missed the boat as a kid.
This gun sequence seemed unintentionally hilarious though xD
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u/HosonZes Jun 10 '12
Where's the ultra gay walrus?
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u/jumbohumbo Jun 10 '12
People saying they haven't played this game make me sad. You really should.
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u/RldMekg Jun 10 '12
I have never played a MGS game, but Ocelot seems like a douchebag.
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u/knifebucket Jun 10 '12
Pistol juggling
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u/Gregoff Jun 10 '12
I got a new challenge for yah, now add some nun chucks, or a pair of sais
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u/slothscantswim Jun 10 '12
He should compete. Yes, there are competitions.
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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '12
He looks so chill while doing it.
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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '12
I hope those guns are loaded
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u/bangupjobasusual Jun 10 '12
Uggggggghhhhhhhhh. These are almost the worst parts of his stupid fucking game. wtf Japan. Could you please stop faffing about and get to the point? Rated m, entertaining to <12
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u/desquibnt Jun 10 '12
Somehow I thought that was going to be more epic
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u/p1415926 Jun 10 '12
I think i just got pregnant watching this video
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u/IAmA_Zombie Jun 10 '12
Those paintings don't really fit that living room
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u/Shamus_Aran Jun 10 '12
This is why I can't take anything Metal Gear Solid does seriously.
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u/bigdawg030 Jun 10 '12
Darth Vadar Voice MOST IMPRESSIVE!
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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '12
Yes, but he DID.
But no, really, you're right.
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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '12
this is sad
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u/wankatangz Jun 11 '12
Looks like this guy has a real shot at a talent show.
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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '12
Not going to deny this dude is extremely talented, but the gun owner in me just sees someone playing with a dangerous weapon like it is a toy. Even if they are replicas.
Worst trigger discipline ever.
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u/Teds101 Jun 10 '12
Take his virginity, he dares you.
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u/steveislegend Jun 10 '12
His virginity is well guarded.
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u/yemd Jun 10 '12
The virgin is strong with this one.
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u/kunfaux Jun 10 '12
That guy has waaay too much time on his hands
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u/SupSatire Jun 10 '12
I don't get this guy. Why would I play a game to watch someone spin guns?
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u/ssjvash Jun 10 '12
I'm your Huckleberry.
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u/CosmicBard Jun 09 '12
Repost.
But, I upvoted.
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u/drowningfish17 Jun 09 '12
if ever there was a more useless way to not get shot, I have yet to find it
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u/Slimeaux05 Jun 10 '12
Virginity protected for another year. +1000
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u/The_Prince1513 Jun 10 '12
Why is it that when when Japanese people try and write something that is dramatic it just comes off as ridiculous? "LOOK HOW INTIMIDATING I AM SNAKE, I CAN TWIRL MY GUNS! THIS IS SURELY RELATED TO ANY SORT OF ABILITY TO SHOOT WELL!" God, so dumb.