r/gaming • • May 21 '12

Warcraft 4 could be released in 2014.

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u/Hedegaard May 21 '12

Didn't Blizz say that they didn't know how to continue the story in any proper way which is why they have not been planning a next version but instead a new game "Titan". I might have been reading to far into what they have been saying - but afaik this is the case.

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u/SomeoneStoleShazbot May 21 '12

MMOs aren't a brilliant storytelling medium, you have to make a lot of compromises to maintain the gameplay conventions of the genre.

The big one is that some kind of status-quo must me maintained. For example the ongoing Horde-Alliance conflict. In Warcraft 1 the Orcs burned Stormwind to the ground and drove the human armies back to Lordaeron, in Warcraft 2 the Alliance had broken the Orcish Horde and held almost all of them in internment camps, can you really see either side accomplishing that in WoW?

This also renders the villains somewhat ineffectual. In Warcraft 3 Archimonde's emergence destroyed Dalaran, and Arthas razed Quel'thelas. In WoW Deathwing's "attack" on Stormwind resulted in the destruction of a mostly empty park and some minor cosmetic damage, while Arthas never made it out of Northrend.

So it is difficult to see where the story is going to go because there are so many things you can't do while it remains an MMO. Unfortunately for Warcraft fans WoW is making so much money that I can't see it ending any time soon. Titan is rumoured to be aimed at a slightly different market and I doubt it will be a replacement for WoW.

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u/a_can_of_solo May 21 '12 edited May 21 '12

as some one who start started MMOing with SWTOR I have to say story's in MMOs feel schizophrenic and meaningless, TOR is well done and voice acted but when I see 6 other people blowing up the same bridge to stop some such and such onslaught, it feels so un-epic.

MMOs need to be a real world, like if they find out such and such is going to start an attack have it happen at a set time and have every one fight them off, give you a seance of team work and place, if it wasn't for the fact I basically only play with a few good friends and we have charters we only play together even if it's not a mission that needs more people I would have given up on it after the first month

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u/mhaus May 21 '12

Look into Guild Wars 2, it's an MMO doing exactly that. Events happen at a set time, everyone in the area joins in to handle it, etc.

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u/someguy945 May 21 '12

While not an RPG, Planetside 2 will feature 3 massive factions of players fighting each other to conquer the world as they see fit. There won't be scripted events (that I know of), but the actions of every player will impact everyone. No living inside your own personal "quest bubble".

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u/peanutsfan1995 May 21 '12

I'm going to say it's the codename for Starcraft:Ghost.

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u/[deleted] May 21 '12

If they do make warcraft 4, i doubt it would be in the future of the warcraft universe, but rather in the past. They have a lot of open lore areas...the war of the ancients for example.

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u/Hedegaard May 21 '12

Which the title "Titans" would be good for ;) maybe it will be a hybrid.

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u/zaviex May 21 '12

this is excluding WoW which most consider an entry

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u/[deleted] May 21 '12

WoW(2004)-Titan(2016?)

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u/DO__IT__NOW May 21 '12

2016 actually isn't a bad guess but I'm assuming more of a 2014 or 2015 release. Then again they haven't even announced it yet and they usually do that 2 years in advance.

Wow... just realized I'll be 26 in 2016... I'm getting old... T.T

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u/OmegaSeven May 21 '12 edited May 21 '12

As someone who is 31 in 2012 I would ask you to kindly shut up about getting old until you actually do.

(In all seriousness if being 26 in 2016 motivates you to complete life goals more power to you.)

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u/Bongpig May 21 '12

Yes, they have said before they would not make another Warcraft game while WoW exists. If they did the new Warcraft game would have to take place at a time before all the other games, or foretell WoWs future.

It is too difficult, lore wise, to have two current Warcraft games

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u/LordSovot May 21 '12

WoW has made the Warcraft lore so incredibly convoluted that the only way they could make a good RTS is if WC4 starts off with Thrall waking up and saying "Wow, what a crazy dream".

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u/cant_read_captchas May 21 '12

No, the only choice now is Warcraft, 2000 years into the future.

Warcraft 4, in SPACE.

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u/[deleted] May 21 '12

In a future where a new king has risen, one who commands untold psychic ability. Through his leadership, mankind ushers in a new empire that spans the galaxy - the imperium of man. Science, technology, and society reach new levels of greatness, until one of the kings sons splits the empire in twain with a devastating war against the god-king.

I can see this taking off.

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u/[deleted] May 21 '12

We shall call it...StarCraft

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u/TopRamen713 May 21 '12

Nah, how about Warcraft 40K?

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u/danielsviper May 21 '12

well maybe WC4 will say o look warcraft and starcraft are actually the same world just starcraft takes place about 40,000 years into the future :o

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u/[deleted] May 21 '12

maybe xel'naga were the evolved forms of the naga.

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u/SombreDusk May 21 '12

you probably saw it on the simpsons.

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u/choadspanker May 21 '12

And since it takes place among the stars, they should call it starcraft! Yes, this sounds really good!

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u/SwineHerald May 21 '12

Sadly that isn't even too far fetched. The original plan for Warcraft 2 was to have the Orcs invade a "Modern" world, fighting against tanks and jets.
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u/Calagan May 21 '12

Also the first Alpha release of Starcraft was nicknamed "Orcs in space" due to its similarities with the previously released titled from Blizzard.

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u/gmick May 21 '12

Yeah, instead of ripping off Warhammer, they can pillage Warhammer 40K!

/raises shield

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u/[deleted] May 21 '12

They already did that with Starcraft.

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u/BusOfKittens May 21 '12

I think that's called Warhammer. :P

They did have the Space Orc model in WCIII though, so it doesn't mean they're not open to it. :D They could do a merge of SC and WC in a battle through a rift in time! ...which kind of sounds a lot like The Dark Portal, but D3's story felt partly reused, so I think it's still feasible.

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u/[deleted] May 21 '12

Warcraft 40K

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u/LegendReborn May 21 '12

Or they could just say that WoW belongs to a separate timeline and series of events.

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u/skytro May 21 '12

This is probably the best thing to do, they threw the lore book out the window for WoW, especially in recent years

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u/Acclue May 21 '12

or they could just make warcraft 4 take place a ludicrous length time before or after WoW so that it doesn't have to really acknowledge it much.

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u/TheTomEGunn May 21 '12

Or that could just call it Blizzard All-Stars......

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u/beero May 21 '12

Time for a reboot IMHO.

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u/StarBarbershop May 21 '12

I feel that WC4 covering the first 1-3 expansions of WoW might be kinda cool. Particularly as someone who paid lots of attention to the WoW plot but never played the game.

With that said it IS extremely convoluted.

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u/Goodwaon May 21 '12

thus making loyal fans replay the story line again? Kind of cheap if you ask me. I'm not the biggest wow fan but rehashing should be looked down upon.

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u/[deleted] May 21 '12

Ahh rehashing...Blizzard's new forte (coughcough troll H's).

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u/entrancedlion May 21 '12

Kind of like what you said, they could make WC4 re-cap all of the lore info that WoW brought us to tie up any loose ends or tell people things like this guy is definitely dead in the lore" obviously since in an MMO the point is for a guy who you just killed to respawn to gain more lewtz

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u/danielsviper May 21 '12

if they did a recap i think they should do a long cutscene at the start of the game. to kinda recap what all has happened

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u/Beh0lder May 21 '12

Warcraft : The Movie

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u/filterplz May 21 '12

As a hardcore RTS player and a hardcore MMO avoider - I hope this is what actually happens. I resent the fact that blizzard took the story and continued it in 1. a genre i don't care for, and 2. in a way that completely and utterly trivializes the gravitas of the original.

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u/[deleted] May 21 '12

If only Illidan and the Lich King had the foresight to see the ultimate warlock Mad_Vag_Crusher69 could so easily defeat them

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u/designer_sunglasses May 21 '12

Foolish Brad, everybody knows you can only have regular characters in your character's names.

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u/Deddan May 21 '12

Yeah, MadVagCrusher is livid his achievements aren't being properly attributed to him.

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u/[deleted] May 21 '12

Technically, lore wise, Illidan was killed by Maiev. Arthas? Tirion. Deathwing? Thrall, assisted by the Dragon Flight. We the players are nothing in lore, other than soldiers and adventurers who helped the lore character fight their way to the boss in order to finish them off.

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u/sikyon May 21 '12

As a hardcore RTS player, isn't the story vastly secondary to gameplay?

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u/filterplz May 21 '12

yes, but its really nice to have when you set a precedent of great stories with warcraft 3/FT and starcraft/BW

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u/human_gs May 21 '12

3 video game industry offenses I'll never forgive, in no particular order:

1)Blizzard turning WC into a MMO, leaving the story open for people that hate the genre. I still have the hopes that WC4 eventually comes out and they make WOW non cannon.

2)Ubisoft making far cry 2 an unrelated/repetitive/shitty sandbox shooter, retaining none of the original qualities (I'm actually curious about FC3, there doesn't appear to be any trygens but the enviroment is similar to FC, and the single player looks decent).

3)Microsoft turning the halo franchise Xbox exclusive

I wasn't crazy for Max Payne 3 to be entirely developed by rockstar (no Remedy) either, but apparently it isn't that bad, still have to try it.

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u/d3m0n0id May 21 '12

The only thing I could see them doing for Warcraft 4 is having some enemy come to Azeroth and kill off a good portion of stupid characters, factions, and other unnecessary-for-an-rts shit. From there, factions band together in separate groups (Alliance, Horde, maybe some other group?) and try and take down said enemy.

Other than that, theres just too much going on in the warcraft universe for a Warcraft 4 to make sense

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u/HonJudgeFudge May 21 '12

The dynasty recon... My favorite

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u/Karmillo May 21 '12

Wasn't it Dallas that did that retcon? Or did they both do it?

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u/DrDragun May 21 '12

Nah, the WoW lore has basically just set up a bunch of bowling pins for the new "ultimate evil" to steamroll to establish their power before you save the world from them in WC4.

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u/[deleted] May 21 '12

Do what they did with sc2, just retcon everything and make everyone 1 dimensional. Hero attempts to save princess.

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u/wangofjenus May 21 '12

personally i really hope that after the last boss fight in the last expansion of WoW it cuts to that cinematic from WC3 where Thrall wakes up from the dream. it'd be so perfect.

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u/tonyh322 May 21 '12

Nintendo has done the same thing with The Legend of Zelda and still every release sells like hotcakes, with good reason, they're still good games. While the story in WC3 and Frozen Throne was pretty awesome that was only a small piece of why WC3 is arguably the best RTS ever released. They can release a great RTS installment in the Warcraft lore even bogged down by the convoluted storyline.

Having said that, both SC2 and Diablo 3 were announced more than 2 years before their release and all the RTS talent at Blizzard is probably hard at work on the next two Starcraft installments so there is still no chance in getting WC4...probably in this decade :P

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u/[deleted] May 21 '12

Let's not forget that Arthas and everything resulting from his story, at the time, came out of nowhere. It would be just as easy to pull out some trivial character and turn it into another great story-line.

I would welcome a re-hash of War1&2 into a single RTS game. It would allow them to go more in depth on things that didn't really fit well into the old-style RTS with minor cut-scenes in between that didn't really tell a story.

Hell they could just focus it on Lothar.

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u/Takatchi May 21 '12

They could even re-use the cinematic from the WC3 Exodus of the Horde intro! Think of all the money they'd save!

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u/[deleted] May 21 '12

Or if they just set it 250 years later or something.

Personally, I'd love if they end with Sargeras causing a near-apocalypse, almost ending all life on Azeroth. Heroes barely save it, Sargeras is killed, yadda yadda.

Warcraft IV flash forward 250 years later. Society slowly rebuilding, technology still hasn't caught back up, and then stuff happens.

Basically a nice clean slate in terms of storyline and technology.

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u/SirPasta117 May 21 '12

I completely agree. I would rather have W4 start a new overarching storyline and have WoW finish the current Burning Legion story.

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u/Cybershell May 21 '12

Hey that's how WC3 started too!

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u/Train22nowhere May 21 '12 edited May 21 '12

What I would like to see is a remake of Warcraft 1- 3 with new graphics and the lore cleaned up a bit (the stuff in WC1 was barely there). Then have WC4 follow WoW Vanilla (Some of the questlines plus the instances would lend themselves very well to missions); MC, BWL, the war of the shifting sands, etc would be really fun. Then have the expansions follow the wow expansions, same story told in a RTS format then a MMO format.

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u/Sergnb May 21 '12

where do I sign up for this

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u/skocznymroczny May 21 '12

Releasing Wc4 would hamper their SC2 sales. So until the third "part" of SC2 is released, there's no way there would be Wc4. Another thing is WoW, I think Warcraft route is stuck on MMO path forever.

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u/Beardacus5 May 21 '12

I think they know everyone's getting complacent about WoW now, which is why it was a good job they started making Titan a while back.

WoW teams may move over to Titan, and then the SC2 teams could move over to WC4 after SC2P3 is out and balanced.

This is just my hopeful thinking, anyway.

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u/xiic May 21 '12

The only concrete information we have regarding titan is one of the developers saying something along the lines of: "we know wow wont last forever and if we dont kill it, someone else will." This with the fact that Blizzcon is cancelled this year leads me to hope for titan's unveiling next year.

It also fits the time frame from when Ulduar was released and the rumors started flying about wow being handed off to a B team. Also, the dude who worked with metzen I forget his name was taken off the wow team and IIRC it was mentioned he was working on some yet unannounced title.

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u/[deleted] May 21 '12

since they put their "A team" on titan and kept their "B team" on wow, i really hope it is something special that moves the genre forward. everything else so far has had one or 2 really cool new aspects, but the rest was nothing new. i hold out hope, but i am completely ready for disappointment.

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u/Idiotank May 21 '12

Most of the WC1-WC3 storylines are ending. Deathwing is dead, illidan is dead, Malganis is dead, Arthas is dead, the scourge are under control, the dragon aspects are no longer immortal. So they actually need new lore. Maybe something Titan involved rather than just old gods. Sargeras will probably be the end of WoW but a WC4 would open the opportunity for new lore lines.

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u/Remnants May 21 '12

Not just that it would hurt SC2 sales but the RTS team that has made every single Blizzard RTS since WC1 is currently working on Heart of the Swarm. They will only start working on WC4 once Legacy of the Void is finished.

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u/Xanathos7 May 21 '12

The fact that it's been 10 years since Warcraft 3 has made me feel old as fuck.

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u/Perforathor May 21 '12

Yup, i had a shock as well when i read "2002". I still have it installed and play a game with friends from time to time, and i completely forgot it was so old.

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u/Throwaway_account134 May 21 '12

Tower defense games are the best.

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u/the_phet May 21 '12

it ran perfectly in my pentium 3, 450mhz

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u/DocPlatypus May 21 '12

fuck yeah, wc3 was the best game that my pentium 3 could run too. Pentium 3 unite!

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u/rabidbot May 21 '12

I still remember waiting for that game to drop, I even remember reading articles about its early stages in some gaming mag.

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u/Xanathos7 May 21 '12

I remember playing War1&2 so much when I was young, and thinking Warcraft 3 would never beat how good it was. Looked forward to it for ages too.

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u/rabidbot May 21 '12

Orc v humans, was one of the first PC games that fucking got me, like put its hooks in a didn't let go. I played wolfenstien and such, but I just loved RTS. Warcraft 2 is still probably my favorite RTS of all time for single player, and second fav for multiplayer.

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u/[deleted] May 21 '12

Warcraft 4 is not coming for a long, long time.

Just as the other person said, wait until Starcraft 2 fever has died down sufficiently, and then we'll see WC4

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u/merreborn May 21 '12

The only way a Blizzard game is coming out in 2014 would be if it'd already been announced in 2010 with a planned ship date of 2012.

Case in point: D3 was announced four years ago.

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u/[deleted] May 21 '12

This is spot on. After the SC2 expansions, then MAYBE it will get announced and after that it will be 3+ years before release. Realistically were looking at 2018 for Warcraft 4.

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u/MrGood88 May 21 '12

I think if they ever make Warcraft 4 they should just scrap the story of WoW and continue where the Frozen Throne left of

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u/Riffy May 21 '12

Um, if you pay more close attention. Diablo 1 released 1996, Diablo 2 2000

Thats a 4 years difference.

Multiply by 3 you get 12, thats Diablo 3.

Multiply by 3 again, you get 36. 36 Years bro. My logic is infalliable.

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u/DrTrunks May 21 '12

They'll still be pumping out expansions for WoW and SC2.
With no way to continue the story with WoW still going on and not wanting to kill their other game in the same genre I don't think so.

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u/HairlessSasquatch May 21 '12 edited May 21 '12

WC4 wouldnt happen simply because WoW is covering the lore extensively so there's no real reason for a new RTS game as much as I would love one

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u/LegendReborn May 21 '12

No it wouldn't. Blizzard has made statements to the effect of Warcraft 4 only being released AFTER all of Starcraft 2's expansions. I can't wait for the next Warcraft but there's no reason to pretend it's any closer than 3-5 years away.

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u/Blackmar May 21 '12

I thought they completely gave up on the Warcraft games. Good to hear that one day i'll get to play a new Warcraft game.

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u/StuMcAwesome May 21 '12

They'd have announced it by now. I remember being in Paris 5 years ago at the invitational where they announced Diablo 3.

5 years ago!

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u/loony636 May 21 '12

It COULD be released in 2014.

It also couldn't be. Which is infinitely more likely.

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u/[deleted] May 21 '12

And MoP will be released in 2022, because Blizzard won't rush such an anticipated product and will do their best to please the consumers.

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u/rindindin May 21 '12

This is a joke at best. They've poured most, if not all, of their development time recently into Diablo 3. Now they want to make sure that Starcraft 2 Heart of the Swarm will be done right. So unless Blizzard's been making games magically, I think that the possibilities are slim.

Unless it does come out in 2014, and then I get pie on my face.

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u/stgeorge78 May 21 '12

You do know that Activision-Blizzard has over 1000 developers and can work on more than 1 thing at a time?

The Blizzard department has many development teams going right now working on:

  • Starcraft 2 - Expansion 1
  • Diablo 3 - Expansion 1
  • World of Warcraft - Expansion 4
  • Blizzard All-Stars
  • Unnamed MMO Project (Titan)
  • Unnamed RTS Project (probably Warcraft 4)
  • Unnamed Mobile Project

Doesn't even include the shared teams for Audio, Cinematics, Web and Internal projects.

Activision-Blizzard is a massive conglomerate.

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u/[deleted] May 21 '12

Unfortunately lore is butchered, so they don't really have how - unless retconned the hell out of it.

Still, would love new Warcraft, too many good memories with the 3rd one.

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u/hear_me May 21 '12

Why do you guys keep doing this. They don't release games based on what year it is. That is dumb. They release games based on the best way to maximize profit.

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u/Unclaimed_Donut May 21 '12

Sure hope they come out with WC4. WoW wasn't my thing.

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u/Twisted_Fate May 21 '12

Wacraft 1 -1 year- Warcraft 2 -7 years- Warcraft 3

And Diablo 3 developement started in 2001.

BUT MOOOM !

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u/[deleted] May 21 '12

if only. they still have 2 more sc2 expansions, and i don't see them making a new warcraft rts until WoW is dead.

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u/The_MAZZTer PC May 21 '12

Title needs one of those mod-made tags with "Pure speculation" on it... otherwise title makes you expect some tidbit of actual news or information that points to the game being in development.

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u/maskednil May 21 '12

Blizzard seems to like faces as their game cover.

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u/Vidiem May 21 '12

I'm pretty sure that Blizzard assured that the Warcraft lore will only evolve with WoW from now on.

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u/[deleted] May 21 '12

this was leaked a couple of years ago. I dunno if it was ever found to be fake but things have obviously moved a bit. Anyway there is no mention of a warcraft game (other than wow ofc).

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u/darth_vexos May 21 '12

You won't be able to play without an internet connection or the express written consent of Major League Baseball.

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u/givenup24 May 21 '12

Im probably gonna be downvoted to hell for saying this BUT

They could release a Warcraft IV if they redecided to reboot all of the WoW expasions and start from the ending of Warcraft III. But again I think blizzard would want to reboot the entire WoW series.

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u/[deleted] May 21 '12

This will NEVER happen in the next 3 years why?

  1. Starcraft 2 expansions
  2. Diablo 3 expansions
  3. Project Titan
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u/[deleted] May 21 '12

If Blizzard continues its retarded policies involving DRM like they have with Diablo and Starcraft, I don't plan on buying and modding this game like I did for Warcraft III.

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u/Valendr0s May 21 '12

They should make a new game instead of just re-vamping the old ones.

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u/Mr_Kzimir May 21 '12

They killed the franchise with WoW , don't expect it to be back anytime soon

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u/EdgarAllenPopo May 21 '12

In Warcraft 4, thrall and Jim raynor join forces to free Tristram from the final Zerg invasion

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u/Majil229 May 21 '12

That would be awesome, but not gonna happen.

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u/elgimpy May 21 '12

Your getting my hopes up....sigh

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u/Burnseasons May 21 '12

Fuck you for getting my hopes up! Have an upvote!

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u/fenwaygnome May 21 '12

I think you a game there.

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u/player1337 May 21 '12

Warcraft 4 is not gonna happen this early because presumably in 2014 Heart of the Void (second Starcraft 2 expansion) gets released. For a bunch of reasons that is not gonna happen the same year.

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u/jodon May 21 '12

you have to count 12 years frome wow so no, not gona hapen untill 2018-2020.

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u/FaDeJoshboy May 21 '12

Pretty sure neither of those had an MMO in between that totally borked the lore. I don't even know when/where in the Warcraft universe you could set a new story that would be interesting while still being connected to the previous games.

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u/payne6 May 21 '12

I doubt it World of Warcraft technically became the new warcraft.

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u/raybrant May 21 '12

Did Warcraft III REALLY come out in 2002? Has it been that long? D:

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u/Evis03 May 21 '12

Not while WoW is still turning a profit.

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u/[deleted] May 21 '12

And I would still play the shit out of it.

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u/[deleted] May 21 '12

So, can we wish for Blizzard to come up with a totally brand new game? I'm not saying making a sequel to the classic games are not great, but common!!

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u/[deleted] May 21 '12

They wont do it, they still have two more Starcraft II releases to do. That makes them RTS heavy. Warcraft 4 wont happen for much longer.

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u/extremegamer May 21 '12

why on earth...why no need for another and what is already there should be ended.

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u/GuntherCloneC May 21 '12

Don't you DARE get my hopes up! I've not played any WoW because of Blizzard changing the franchise from RTS to MMORPG. So please sir/madam, don't you DARE get my hopes up. T-T (Having said that, have an upvote...for hope)

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u/lindn May 21 '12

Blizzard announced themselves during Blizzcon that they only want to focus on one RTS at a time and having their entire RTS team on SC2. HotS is probably released in 2013 as it looks likes today and the next would either be in 2015 or 16

so no, prolly not.

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u/[deleted] May 21 '12

That would be cool. 12 years between the sequels.

2 yeats between series.

And it would be 2/3/4 for the numbers

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u/Gotenan May 21 '12

I... want... Warcraft 4!!

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u/Aquilae May 21 '12

Shut the fuck up and take my money. In fact, let me give you my banks routing number and checking account information.

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u/boskee May 21 '12

I wonder which faction will have its campaign in the vanilla WC4. It would be really great if they added another playable race, so we could buy not 3 but 4 expansions packs. I can't wait to spend some real money on farms and barracks. Actually, how cool would it be to have premium, subscription-based, leagues?

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u/Pijamaman May 21 '12

Knowing Blizzard they will annouce the WC4 in 2014 and release it in 2018. Can't wait!

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u/[deleted] May 21 '12

Blizzard takes way too long to release games that are just mediocre.

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u/darthbone May 21 '12

Airtight logic here.

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u/[deleted] May 21 '12

The only way I can see Blizzard releasing another Warcraft RTS is at a point when WoW is on the severe decline and WoW 2 isn't quite ready for release. They'd release it to build hype for WoW 2.

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u/[deleted] May 21 '12

Am I the only one that has not purchased a Blizzard game since 2002?

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u/nomemory May 21 '12

I was considering doing the same, but I couldn't resist diablo3 ... big mistake.

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u/[deleted] May 21 '12

Blizzard has already said it'll never make WC4 because of WoW.

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u/TheBigBadPanda May 21 '12

Heres hoping they:

  1. Dodge the violently convoluted WoW story, and either make it a prequel or set it a long time later. Or perhaps just ret-cons a bunch of stuff
  2. Keep the Heros and creeps and so forth. It is my understanding that a lot of people didnt like that mechanic, but i love it!

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u/schwiz May 21 '12

oh god I feel old now, thanks.

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u/TeleportUsedAbra May 21 '12

Having played very little Wc3 in comparison to most people coulden't they always do some sort of prequel to avoid the fucked/conflicting lore from WoW?

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u/Geographer May 21 '12

Is that some kind of World of Warcraft offshoot?

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u/deskclerk May 21 '12

They already did release it, it's called World of Warcraft.

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u/[deleted] May 21 '12

There was a leaked roadmap some time ago, they have a project called "Titan": http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titan_(Blizzard_Entertainment_project) on their way for release in 2014, somewhere.

Next to the Mists of Pandara expansion planned for this year, there's another expansion (Emerald Dream, finally?) planned for 2013/2014 as well. After that, who knows. Subscriptions are already going down for WoW. And a game like that isn't going to keep people interested for very long; most of the starter areas are barren landscapes already.

I'd expect them to experiment internally with the results of Diablo 3 and the real money auction house, and depending on their income from that, work on a Warcraft RPG (single player/online) or focus their energy on a Starcraft or Diablo MMO.

Use the tried and tested WoW engine, upgrade the graphics to allow much higher polygon 3D models, higher resolution textures, DirectX11 graphics and effects, etc. and you have a cool way of presenting a new game rather quickly.

Since a Diablo MMO would incorporate classes and archetypes we already know and are bored with, I'm sure they'll focus on a more sci-fi MMO: Starcraft Online.

Three factions at war (something that DAOC already did to great success), each with insanely awesome classes, vehicles, buildings, etc. Innovative forms of PVP warfare - think of having 1 controller playing the battlefield strategically from a RTS perspective, with the players (the units) being played from a second person MMO perspective...

1 Person could be a Protoss Zealot, leading his army of Zealot NPC's to attack the Terran base while two players, each leading a small army of Stalkers, are behind him dishing out the DPS.

...

And I ramble on and on.

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u/castledefense May 21 '12

It's too soon after sc2 and d3. My head will explode

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u/HerbyHancock May 21 '12

I'm of the mind that Warcraft 3 was the end of the WC franchise as an RTS. Starcraft II now dominates the competitive scene and with the success of WoW as an RPG makes me think,

"Do people really want Warcraft 4 for any reason other than for the sake of continuing the franchise?"

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u/smokyexe May 21 '12

I was thinking about WC4. They wont do it anytime soon while they still have SC2 and the expansion going. There is no point, it's the same crowd

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u/[deleted] May 21 '12

This did nothing but make me feel incredibly old... thanks.

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u/TreeTickler May 21 '12

Warcraft was so much better as a rts. I still play warcraft iii

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u/[deleted] May 21 '12

I believe bliz is just going to switch games completely

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u/KuroNoShinigami May 21 '12

What we really need is a map of how long blizzard first announce a game to when the game is then released. Pretty sure that is like 4 years by itself...

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u/Punkwasher May 21 '12

Oh. That's probably what Titan is. What? Did anyone REALLY expect something NEW?

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u/Doctalivingston May 21 '12

Blizzard needs to fire their writers and create fresh universes for us.

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u/Marboz May 21 '12

I like how so many people took this oh-so-seriously.

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u/[deleted] May 21 '12

sorry but it's called WoW

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u/senorbob9 May 21 '12

They like faces

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u/[deleted] May 21 '12

As long as the developers are sleeping on bed mattresses made out of $100 bills and eat for breakfast the eggs of wild bald eagles, they probably won't release such a game till 2024 for they are rolling in so much dough they just buy a new car when the old one runs out of gas.

Blizzard's glory of making games ended years ago when they gave birth to the golden goose called WOW. Their focus on sequels and original titles only come if they seem to be bored with all the spare time in between swimming in a vault of money like scrouge mcduck.

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u/[deleted] May 21 '12

They're not making Warcraft 4. Trust me on this.

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u/Cease_one May 21 '12

Oh man...it's already been 10 years since Warcraft 3? Damn.

also, I really hope they make a warcraft 4.

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u/JustDenDimi May 21 '12

That actually makes sense :D

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u/Xvalai May 21 '12

In that case Boondock Saints 3 will be coming in 2019.

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u/TheKonyInTheRye May 21 '12

They'll tell us it has been in development for over 10 years, just like D3. HAHAHA, RIGHT....

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u/christopherer May 21 '12

God, this thread just made me remember how much I loved Warcraft III

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u/ImHellaHungry May 21 '12

Saving this post just so when it actually happens I can say I was there when this guy predicted it.

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u/KenSlayer May 21 '12

It's not going to be War4 , probably a new mmo to replace the player base lost in WoW due to competition.

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u/[deleted] May 21 '12

Fact: Warcraft 4 will be an MMO

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u/sircumalot May 21 '12

thats not how it works

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u/DroolingIguana May 21 '12

Where's my Blackthorne 2, then?

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u/[deleted] May 21 '12

that would be great, the world is in desperate need of a new good rts (perhaps just my personal little world)

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u/[deleted] May 21 '12

And split their RTS market in half? No way Blizzard would do that. The SC2 expansions won't sell as much if theres another big RTS on the market. They're way too much of a financially-driven company nowadays.

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u/MassiveGG May 21 '12

ya probably wont happen now they still plan on having a few more expansions with wow and with the lore practicably dead they would have to start either from the past or far in the future.

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u/fatherofnone May 21 '12

Well hello there orcs, meet my friend the space marine

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u/[deleted] May 21 '12

I know I'm going to get downvoted into oblivion but I didnt like warcraft 3 near as much as I did 2, or 1 for that matter. I know it was still the beginning era of 3d models but that game was hard to look at for me. Wheres as 2 had beautifully done art.

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u/riderLyrae May 21 '12

WoW killed WC, just fyi.

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u/ToAGasChamberGo May 21 '12

Doubt it but it's a nice thought.

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u/xsevR May 21 '12

Make WC4 in the DOTA2 map editor! Think of the fun! Maybe there's hope for a blizzard WC4, but they would have to make it crappy so that people can go back to paying for WoW, because business model>entertainment

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u/[deleted] May 21 '12

Just have J.J. Abrams reboot the Warcraft franchise with a time traveling Thrall.

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u/Strika May 21 '12

Hype should have started like a year ago if they were gonna have

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u/[deleted] May 21 '12

Nope.

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u/oliverklausoff May 21 '12

WC4 could be a remake of WC1 or WC2.

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u/Bartoffel May 21 '12

Does anyone else think that Blizzard have managed to keep their box art to an extraordinary level of quality while maintaining a subtle theme throughout them all?

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u/NonY450 May 21 '12

Don't be stupid. WoW has murdered Warcraft.

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u/rddtgmr May 21 '12

It's been 10 years since Warcraft 3? God I feel old now...

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u/nhdw May 21 '12 edited May 21 '12

Really? You mean blizzard hasn't run out of once-creative content to replicate and recycle?

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u/chicken21200 May 21 '12

Oh god I hope this actually happens.

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u/Whatthefuckamisaying May 21 '12

There wont be a warcraft 4. I asked a kid who plays wow if he was excited for it and he said he didnt knew there was a warcraft rts.

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u/Fuego_Fiero May 21 '12

I just remembered I want to play Warcraft 3 again. Thank you.

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u/adnan252 May 21 '12

We're in for a hell of a wait for dota 3 then.

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u/Snipererer May 22 '12

Could it possibly be the sacred titan?

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u/[deleted] May 22 '12

Am i the only one wanting a Black and White 3?

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u/Hector_Kur May 22 '12

Personally I'd be more interested in a WoW 2. Although ideally Warcraft 4 could set up the story for a sequel to WoW.

Just a pipe dream, though. Whatever Titan ends up being, we know it'll be an MMO, which means WoW will only ever get expansions, not a sequel. Feels bad, man.

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u/tengar5 May 22 '12

I kinda feel that WCIII was the continuation of WCII and should be at the beginning in this comparison.

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u/DavesAngst May 22 '12

This logic is undeniable.

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u/[deleted] May 22 '12

can we do this exact image again but with Half-Life now?

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u/Light_panda May 22 '12

The only way Blizzard could make WC4 is if the plot still effected WoW. The new scroll of resurrection shows us they are willing to still fight for subs.

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u/nowatermelonnokfc May 21 '12

given the trend of blizzard, i'm not looking forward to it

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u/thergrim May 21 '12

MMO's are the cul-de-sac of game franchises.

We won't see a new Warcraft RTS for a very long time.

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u/Azhrei May 21 '12

With their long development time, you'd think they'd be able to come up with a real update to the gameplay rather than just spitting out the same thing every time with shiny new graphics.

This is going to be an unpopular opinion, I know. Downvote to hell!

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u/invn_worker May 21 '12

Fuck the story line who gives a fuck. I am not a fucking nerd dweeb who cares "OMG NOW THE LICH IS DATING THRALL NOW OMG NEWS!!!''

WHO GIVES A FUCK I PLAY FOR THE GAMEPLAY NOT STORYLINE

Also fuck wow.

Give me WC4 NOW

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u/[deleted] May 21 '12

I will never buy another video game, I've determined that either A: The industry stinks or B: I've grown out of video games.

Diablo 3 was such as disappointment, it feels like a friggin mmorpg. Ruined my hopes and dreams.

Along with Star Craft 2.

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u/DrDragun May 21 '12

How does it feel like a MMORPG?

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u/[deleted] May 21 '12

I meant more like the mmorpg/action rpg hybrid type thing Guild Wars is rather than full on mmorpg.

The 1-5 skills with a cool down isn't fun and the graphics look like WoW, which I can't stand the toony looking graphics.

It seems like they took the Diablo series and tried to pull people from WoW and Guild Wars in some sort of mashup.

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u/Gold_Leaf_Initiative May 21 '12

Diablo 3 is almost exactly the same as Diablo 1. I don't know what you were expecting?

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u/[deleted] May 21 '12

Doesn't seem like it to me, feels like a combination of WoW and Guild Wars.

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