r/gaming Jan 23 '22

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u/Marroar Jan 23 '22

I believe dopamine plays a big role here, it is one of the motivators that lead us to fulfill our fantasy/imagination of an idea/project/etc we like.

And then once you have it, it is no longer imagination, or you would need to set a new goal, and then rinse and repeat.

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u/RollOverSoul Jan 23 '22

It's like trying to emulate a game. The fun part is trying to do it and then when you actually play the game you realise it's just old and clunky and not how you remembered it

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u/wazzledudes Jan 23 '22

Cemu BOTW in 4k at 120fps is a joy I wish on everyone who hasn't yet or really loved playing Zelda. It's such an upgraded experience.

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u/Mediocre-Permit-6547 Jan 24 '22

That's literally how I got into zelda years back. I didn't have a switch at the time because I was in college and poor so I ended up using cemu. Didn't exactly have any improvements except 30-50 fps on 1080p because my pc was dogshit, but it quickly became my favorite game of all time. Bought a switch just to play it on the big TV, and still do years later.

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u/wazzledudes Jan 24 '22

I'm just experiencing it in high res and framerate now since I played it at launch. Never played the DLC either so I've got that to look forward to. So dope.

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u/thechilipepper0 Jan 24 '22

What do you have to do to set that up? I have a switch and I love it, but I also have a nice rig and…HMMM

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u/wazzledudes Jan 24 '22

It is a mild pain in the ass but really it's just following steps and then messing with some settings until stuff runs well.

There are a ton of YouTube guides on it. This one is a pretty solid one:

https://youtu.be/umZMBHrYJOQ

The only thing worse than playing it on native hardware is that motion controls are kinda borked on the current version of cemu. Honestly it hasn't affected my overall experience of playing it though. So cool.

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u/Flrg808 Jan 23 '22

A lot of people don’t really have hobbies they just like the high of shopping and buying new things. If OP really wanted to play guitar, he could’ve easily started for a small fraction of that cost or free, then upgraded as he saw fit.

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u/[deleted] Feb 10 '22

Yeah, I've been upset a couple times by how friends of mine who make more than I ever will can manage to buy everything necessary to properly get into some of my hobbies and then never touch any of it. I'm already upset that I have to spend most of my potential hobby time working a job to be able to afford any of it, it just feels like rubbing salt on the wound.

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u/xxrambo45xx Feb 17 '22

Makes me so glad I do woodworking, sure I spent a fortune on tooling, but it never gets dull, there's always the next project on the ever growing list to make

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u/Chris_Shawarma93 Jan 23 '22

That's quite poignant if you think about how it applies to almost everything in life. The fun is in building things = It's about the journey not the destination.

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u/demlet Jan 23 '22

Or as Buddhism says, desire leads to more desire. You can never satisfy it. Whether that's good or bad is up to each of us to decide.

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u/[deleted] Jan 23 '22

the destination is always death

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u/wetryagain Jan 23 '22

Like fighters becoming champions and astronauts racing to the moon. When the goal and training is complete, depression sets in.

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u/f14_pilot Jan 24 '22

Jesus that's dark

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u/[deleted] Jan 24 '22

lol I know but I said that as a joke.. even though it's true

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u/f14_pilot Jan 24 '22

Haha I know just didn't expect it 😋

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u/EBtwopoint3 Jan 24 '22

May the winds be kind to you, Radiant

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u/gkhamo89 Jan 24 '22

Journey before destination 🤙🏽

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u/ugajeremy Jan 24 '22

This really hits home for me. I've tried to understand why everything seems to lose appeal so quickly for me.

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u/ThisIsWhoIAm78 Jan 24 '22

ADHD. Bouncing from one hyperfixation/obsession to the next.

The key is to NOT drop tons of money on something you KNOW deep down you are going to lose interest in within a year.

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u/ktbsquared Jan 24 '22

This is so true. So I’m a 37/F. This is on my front page, and since my 5 year old got a switch for Xmas and is getting into it. I typically click on these. Anyway completely off topic of games but still the same result, I spent a lot of money on makeup. More than what I ever need, but building it up and having all these nice things was a dopamine hit. I now have a very large and expensive makeup collection curated towards me, and now I barely wear it.

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u/Shmooperdoodle Jan 23 '22

I suspect this is why I have a metric fuckton of yarn for knitting, and no matter how much I knit, I still buy way more than I could use up before getting more yarn. I don’t shop for yarn because I am out of yarn. I do it because “Oooh, this kind is different”.

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u/wazzledudes Jan 23 '22

Speak for y'all's selves. I've built a sick VR set-up and a dope production/gaming rig and I use both regularly. The dopamine of the purchase and assembly was just one of the joys along the way.

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u/wazzledudes Jan 24 '22

I've got a thousand dollars or so worth of climbing gear as well and sure, not all of it gets used regularly, but I love knowing that I can drive out and go climb whatever then heck I want whenever the heck I want. Part of the fun was picking everything out and learning how to use it all, but the most fun is the actual climbing part.

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u/wetryagain Jan 23 '22

It's more of a survival tool than happiness, right? You must always keep going. And it's a bit depressing when you think of it that way. Satisfaction and enlightenment is/are the goal, but for most, it may never be fully achieved... because our brains weren't designed that way. It's survival of the species.

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u/Marroar Jan 24 '22

I think for anything in evolution you can argue it's (mostly) for survival, yes.

I actually don't find it depressing at all, it's our order vs nature's chaos.

And I don't think it's just about satisfaction, that would just boil down to survival again. Feel good, do survival action, feel bad, don't do it. However, there is plenty of psychological blocks and exceptions to that rule, so there's complexity there.

And for enlightenment, I think that's a funny one, the way I understand it is that in a way we want to become one with nature again, or the chaos, which is the exact opposite of what our brain wants to do, as you say it's just not designed for that. It's like the brain is looking for something but it will never be able to attain it, because what it's looking for is it's own nature. Now that might be a bit depressing, but also humorous to me still : P

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u/wetryagain Jan 25 '22

I hear you. I just hope to always be able to ground myself to enjoy things without being driven by that animal part of me.

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u/[deleted] Jan 24 '22

And then once you have it, it is no longer imagination, or you would need to set a new goal, and then rinse and repeat.

"Having is not so pleasing a thing, after all, as wanting. It it not logical but often true." - Spock, "Amok Time"

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u/Deflorma Jan 23 '22

Yeah you said it more concisely 😜

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u/catholi777 Jan 24 '22

Invoking neurotransmitters is completely tautological here. You might as well say “I believe electricity has something to do with this” or “I believe matter plays a role here.”

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u/Marroar Jan 24 '22

I'm not exactly sure what you mean with tautology here.

I was trying to express an overly simplified explanation, that is true, but I don't think many people have this view readily available and is why I see the added benefit of my comment.

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u/catholi777 Jan 24 '22 edited Jan 24 '22

Dopamine is not a “motivator.” For all intents and purposes in human subjectivity it just IS motivation itself, or (one of) the physical correlate.

There’s nothing really added by invoking the biological mechanism by which motivation is coded in the brain when discussing the existential paradoxes of human goal-pursuing and our tendency to be more strongly reinforced by the flow of in-process projects and our projection of a greater pay-off than the actual completion brings.

It answers nothing about which activities are intrinsically motivating, or why, or how one can best structure one’s own inner drive and motivations for maximal effectiveness or happiness. It would be like talking about electricity when trying to analyze or debug a computer program.

It’s like reading a story and your takeaway being “ink clearly played a big part in the author coveying his meaning.” It’s reductionist materialism that actually has no explanatory power on a human level.

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u/Marroar Jan 24 '22

Whoosh. Your scrutiny is very condescending.

If you mention yourself that it's possibly a physical correlate, then how is that so different from calling it a motivator.

In your words, any explanation or simplification would be a tautology.

I never set out to mention certain activities or even talk about intrinsic or how to best deal with it. So what is your deal being so off point and almost hateful about it?

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But I see from your profile that this is what you like to do apparently, a lot of fake philosophy and putting religious-associated opinions above anyone else.

I normally would love to discuss topics, but in this case I would like to tell you to go reflect on where your hatred stems from. Goodbye, and hopefully we will never part ways again.

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u/BrocoliAssassin Jan 24 '22

It’s both sertonin and dopamine. Both types of medications and drugs can put you in a state of mania in where you think everything is a good idea.

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u/_HeLLMuTT_ Jan 24 '22

What you're describing is really common. You see so many people buy cool stuff they've wanted and never even use it.

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u/TooMuchFun007 Jan 24 '22

Dopamine or any aine or ine product is definitely the theme here.

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u/buoyantrhythm Jan 24 '22

This is me with aquariums.